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Typically on a cool dry day, I will start with the tank top, long sleeve merino base, button up shirt, and buff. On a clear day that warms up, the buff comes off in 30 minutes, and the merino shirt after an hour or two. If it is cold or damp, the rain jacket goes on. I almost always wear the button-up shirt while walking. My other merino shirt, sweater and vest are all for the evenings, although very occasionally I might need to add the sweater during the day. The t-shirt is a spare for hot evenings.You don’t actually wear all those shirts while walking, though, do you? Those are your options right?
This a great example of cold tolerance. I walk with a T-shirt and a skirt in temps down to 40s F. I don’t like being hot when I hikeTypically on a cool dry day, I will start with the tank top, long sleeve merino base, button up shirt, and buff. On a clear day that warms up, the buff comes off in 30 minutes, and the merino shirt after an hour or two. If it is cold or damp, the rain jacket goes on. I almost always wear the button-up shirt while walking. My other merino shirt, sweater and vest are all for the evenings, although very occasionally I might need to add the sweater during the day. The t-shirt is a spare for hot evenings.
The list shows you have 2 long-sleeved shirts and a fleece as your shirts. Would you need UV sleeves if your shirts are all long-sleeved? I assume the list includes the things you are wearing, so does the weight (13.6 lbs) include it all? If so, that weight is very good.Any suggestions are appreciated!
As a first-timer, I've been seeking feedback from those who have "been there, done that." I've attempted to compile my own packing list from what others have suggested. What I have here needs tweaking, but when I weighed a couple days ago, it was about 13.6 lbs. I'll try to get it down to about 11 lbs. before I leave in May. Any suggestions are appreciated!
alaskadiver, Thanks for the suggestions! The fleece jacket I've got is lightweight...it's from Columbia. Rain jacket is also thin and lightweight, almost more of a cover than a jacket.You have a poncho and a rain jacket. I would only take 1. Also consider swapping out the heavy fleece jacket for a light weight synthetic jacket. May into June is hot in Spain (Anomalous years aside). Consider 1 short sleeve shirt instead of 2 long sleeve ones.
And I agree that if you have long sleeves with uv protection (or wear sunscreen), the sun sleeves are not needed.
You don’t say which Camino you are walking or for how long.
If you google "pack liner" you will find various ones. I have one that is almost twice the size of my pack, so I can toss things in at night without having to pack it up carefully. I sleep in my "evening outfit" - merino sweatpants and long sleeved shirt, with the down vest if I am cold, or the t-shirt if it is warm. Remember I think in terms of 1 evening outfit and then a many-layered walking outfit. Two items (sweater and down vest) can cross over.can I ask about the dri sack that you put your pack into at night? also what do you sleep in?
Mine weighs about 5.5 kg without water. How do you keep yours down to 4.5 kg especially if you have extra weight from medicines?I like your pack list. mine weighs about the same 4.5 kg with water... Where my extra weight comes in...
I use light quick drying pants, I packed and 1 to wear. The same with socks Darn Tough socks, light fleece and rain jacket. Same with shirts, exception: 1 Columbia hiking shirt and Laundry daily. All clothing items in stuff sack and grooming kit (zip lock bag) and sleep sack. I use a flex garbage sack as a pack liner. Grooming kit: 1 bar multi-use soap ( will last about 45 days) comb and tooth brush, 1 travel razor. All of the travel clothes I use are expensive except pants. I buy cheap quick dry pants Bass Pro Shop, their brand on sale for $29 per pair and they will last if given the proper care. All of this weighs about 4 kg. Then water and daily snacks. If something breaks I replace it at their stores. I do use walking sticks. When we walked a winter Camino I carried the ashes of my brother to spread along the way, That added an extra 1.1 kg. We did this because he wanted to walk a Camino and never had the opportunity.If you google "pack liner" you will find various ones. I have one that is almost twice the size of my pack, so I can toss things in at night without having to pack it up carefully. I sleep in my "evening outfit" - merino sweatpants and long sleeved shirt, with the down vest if I am cold, or the t-shirt if it is warm. Remember I think in terms of 1 evening outfit and then a many-layered walking outfit. Two items (sweater and down vest) can cross over.
Mine weighs about 5.5 kg without water. How do you keep yours down to 4.5 kg especially if you have extra weight from medicines?
This is an interesting list, as much because of the weights as anything else, and what that might mean for larger people. I am somewhere between an L and XL in clothes sizes, and nothing that I own is as light as the gear the @C clearly has listed. The largest percentage difference will be my Tilley hat, at just over 150 gm - over 300% heavier than the 50 gm hat on this list. Other clothing items appear to be around 25-30% heavier, and presumably bulkier.The attached list adds up to 5.3 kg (just under 12 pounds).
OK, OK, you are forcing me to reveal my weight! I am about 5'4" (162 cm) and my official walking weight is 60 kg. (My actual weight is a couple more@C clearly doesn't reveal what her packing list is as a percentage of her walking weight
I agree.I think larger pilgrims in particular should be looking at the general structure of @C clearly's list rather than the individual weights,
... and I think boys bring more toys, or at least I do. This year I carried three items that were entirely optional. My smartphone could have replaced all three, albeit with some limitations.I agree that in general, man's basic kit will usually be heavier than a woman's even before the variations each person chooses to bring.
So true..."boys and their toys". My husband probably purchases 5x's more techy do-dads than he ever needs. Plus, technology is ever changing, so in a couple of short years, it all "needs" to be upgraded.... and I think boys bring more toys, or at least I do. This year I carried three items that were entirely optional. My smartphone could have replaced all three, albeit with some limitations.
I am fascinated with your tech organisation more than your contents list! How did you get the numbers to sit neatly on the items??? What’s more, if you forgot something, you would just have to lay everything out in the same order as your photo to identify the missing item...This is my winter packing list (below). It weights about 5.5kg without the clothes on my back (included in the picture), food and water. It fit into a 30L backpack.
For warmer seasons, just remove the warmer items and switch to very light jacket.
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Great advise. I remember testing and wearing my choice of rain gear in the shower at home before I left on my first camino. I had to try a couple of different options before finding one that totally kept me dry. I also dried myself off after showering with a few towel options until finding a favorite.Thank you, @C clearly and @Samarkand
My top tip for new pilgrims would be to start with one of these lists, see what they already have before they start spending lots of money, and then go for a long walk at least two days on the run wearing only what they intend to bring, carrying the full pack, doing some laundry with the soapy stuff of their choice, and then wear the second change of clothes to relax after. The only thing that is going to show up problems and solutions is to wear and wash and pack your actual gear repeatedly over time! If your trousers chafe or dry slowly, consider getting some new ones. If the tech shirt feels cold and clammy, consider merino. If your feet overheat, try different socks before you invest in new shoes. If you get blisters, learn to treat them so you can carry on, and how to avoid them. Just make sure you know your kit properly to make yourself as comfortable as possible for minimum weight.
There have been several questions from new pilgrims about what things to take. So, I'm starting a new thread to address them, and have decided to post my packing list (even though it feels a bit like putting my laundry out on display). I am not seeking feedback on the list - rather it is for information of anyone who wants to see what I have settled on after 6 Caminos. (My first camino was not much different, because I followed the good advice from this forum.)
This list is suitable for virtually all weather conditions. I would make some minor adjustments for walking in January or July, but not much. I tend to walk in March-April or Oct-Nov, when it is necessary to be prepared for any weather conditions. I know some items that I could save weight on, if necessary, but I am happy with this collection. I am quite comfortable carrying this weight (between 5 and 6 kg before water and snacks) and it provides me with everything I am likely to need. I do not want to be searching for a pharmacy when I am not feeling well, or looking for rain gear when it is raining!)
My approach to clothing is to have a walking outfit that consists of several light layers that can be put on or taken off to suit any conditions. Rain jacket and pants provide the ultimate protection against wind, rain or cold. Then I have an evening outfit, including down vest, that I wear to bed as well. The day outfit can stay a bit dirty and the evening outfit stays pretty clean, so my daily laundry is just socks and underwear.
I take a very lightweight sleeping bag, and have wool or down clothes I can also wear at night. I find that my body gets chilled easily when it is tired from walking all day, and I prefer not to risk being cold at night.
The attached list adds up to 5.3 kg (just under 12 pounds). In practice, a few odds and ends always creep into my back before departure, but those would be very small items like snacks, notes or extra toiletries that can/will be discarded. My pack is always under 6 kg, without water. I typically carry two 500 mL bottles of water and another 500 mL emergency drink in the bottom of my pack.
@Camino Chris Good idea to try out the rain gear in the shower, but I'd still recommend getting out in the rain with it on and go for a walk - some rain gear breathes and some doesn't, and some is tricky to get on and off if rain comes and goes. I like a poncho with closed sides because it is easy to pop over myself and the pack, and is roomy so better ventilated. Or at the very least a rain coat with pit zips!
Great list! (The initial list -- the photo looks like way too much for me) My rule of thumb for clothes is to "carry" the most I will ever wear at one time (which will depend on the weather) as well as a soft cotton t-shirt and light socks for sleeping, Croc clogs for non-hiking, an extra pair of socks, and my down throw and silk liner. If you use wool (socks and base layers) you won't need to wash muchWash days I wore my rain pants and one of my cleaner top layers. If your clothes are made up of thin (very thin) layers, you will always have a "just right" ensemble no matter what the weather. My pack came in at 11 lbs as well and that was only when I was naked!! BTW, I hike only in the shoulder seasons as I am not fond of hot weather.
Ehh, I don't know. All the "extra" clothing weights a total of 2-3lbs. I guess it's the price to pay to travel clean, comfortable and be ready even for a blizzard.
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Well.....hiking in March, I had rain, sleet, snow, driving wind with rain and sleet, blizzard.....you name it! For me (smallish and in my 60s) the 2-3 lbs extra were not worth it. And I am a wimp. I hate being cold and wet and dirty when I get to my destination. Never had a issue with what I hadMaybe I should also mention that last year I thought I had pared things down enough (13 lbs?) and then purged and sent every single extra piece of clothing/paper/you name it on to my hostel in Madrid. And it was heaven with only 10 lbs max on my back!! I didn't miss a thing. AND the weather was COLD and very wet.
Thanks so much for sharing your list! Very helpful to us as we plan our March camino. Concise and uncomplicated...best I've found on site and true to keeping the weight to a minimum.There have been several questions from new pilgrims about what things to take. So, I'm starting a new thread to address them, and have decided to post my packing list (even though it feels a bit like putting my laundry out on display). I am not seeking feedback on the list - rather it is for information of anyone who wants to see what I have settled on after 6 Caminos. (My first camino was not much different, because I followed the good advice from this forum.)
This list is suitable for virtually all weather conditions. I would make some minor adjustments for walking in January or July, but not much. I tend to walk in March-April or Oct-Nov, when it is necessary to be prepared for any weather conditions. I know some items that I could save weight on, if necessary, but I am happy with this collection. I am quite comfortable carrying this weight (between 5 and 6 kg before water and snacks) and it provides me with everything I am likely to need. I do not want to be searching for a pharmacy when I am not feeling well, or looking for rain gear when it is raining!)
My approach to clothing is to have a walking outfit that consists of several light layers that can be put on or taken off to suit any conditions. Rain jacket and pants provide the ultimate protection against wind, rain or cold. Then I have an evening outfit, including down vest, that I wear to bed as well. The day outfit can stay a bit dirty and the evening outfit stays pretty clean, so my daily laundry is just socks and underwear.
I take a very lightweight sleeping bag, and have wool or down clothes I can also wear at night. I find that my body gets chilled easily when it is tired from walking all day, and I prefer not to risk being cold at night.
The attached list adds up to 5.3 kg (just under 12 pounds). In practice, a few odds and ends always creep into my back before departure, but those would be very small items like snacks, notes or extra toiletries that can/will be discarded. My pack is always under 6 kg, without water. I typically carry two 500 mL bottles of water and another 500 mL emergency drink in the bottom of my pack.
If you examine the two lists, item by item, you will find they are almost the same. @Samarkand has just 1 more quick dry shirt than I do, but I have a down vest. The way a "list" is presented can affect the first impression.Great list! (The initial list -- the photo looks like way too much for me)
I would take the same items in March. Be aware that things might not dry overnight.This js my 4-seasons list. I assume if I walk in March I'll leave the sweater, one long-sleeve shirt,
As a first-timer, I've been seeking feedback from those who have "been there, done that." I've attempted to compile my own packing list from what others have suggested. What I have here needs tweaking, but when I weighed a couple days ago, it was about 13.6 lbs. I'll try to get it down to about 11 lbs. before I leave in May. Any suggestions are appreciated!
I love reading lists and make them!
If I may add my two cents:
Weight: at the moment (age, level of fitness) I'm comfortable to carry 10Kg (with food and water), when I was younger and fitter I could carry more. So, even if I want to bring with me a lead ball, the total weight of my pack won't exceed that limit. To do so I have to choose not only what I want to pack, but also the quality (weight) of the gear, usually the lighter the more expensive it gets.
Pack: I hate having things hanging outside the pack, so everything must stay inside, which also includes my walking boots for the days in which I want to walk with sandals and, of course, food or extras I buy along the way. Therefore, I always take into account the extra space I may need when choosing the right pack. I love backpacks, I have 15 of them form 10l to 100l!
Comfort: everyone is different, for example I need to drink a cup of tea as soon as I wake up, or else I'll be grumpy all day. Therefore, I always have with me a cup, tea bags and sugar and a small alcohol stove, regardless if I'm camping or if I stay in hotel. Sunny weather on me is harder than cold weather, so I bring a hat and a cap, to switch them when they are too sweaty. I wear prescription glasses, so I take with me 2 pairs usually 1 pair with clear lenses and 1 pair with dark/photochromic ones. My skin gets easily sunburned and chapped, so lip balm and cream (I use PREP) are a necessity.
The "just in case": when I decide if I may or may not need something I consider what the consequence of not having that item ready would be vs. the weight. Would I want to go and look of a pharmacy when I have a strong migraine or diarrhea or do I rather have with me few pills? Would I really want to walk for an X amount of time without water rather than carry an extra 1/2 liter? Do I want to walk with a broken shoelace for X Km to save the weight of a piece of string? And so on.
To sum it up, for me walking must be a pleasure not a torture; once I tested the weight I'm comfortable carry, I strictly stick to it and pack accordingly not just for necessities, but also for comfort.
What? You don't love "cafe con leche"?Small stove with fuel tablets and titanium pot for next time. Thought about it but decided it would be overkill. Boy was I wrong, especially as I refuse to drink anything from those coffee machines.
What? You don't love "cafe con leche"?
I actually look to make sure they have one of those machines before I order coffee in Spain!
Oh, I see, and agree completely!I'm talking about those coffee vending machines. I don't even want to see what they look like inside. That was all that was available in the albergue in San Juan d'Ortega, and the next bar was 4k away.
. . . one other point, from not inconsiderable personal experience: additional items of clothing, toiletries and such can (nearly) always purchased en route (street markets for bargains!) as you will seldom be that distant from “civilisation” . . .
There have been several questions from new pilgrims about what things to take. So, I'm starting a new thread to address them, and have decided to post my packing list (even though it feels a bit like putting my laundry out on display). I am not seeking feedback on the list - rather it is for information of anyone who wants to see what I have settled on after 6 Caminos. (My first camino was not much different, because I followed the good advice from this forum.)
This list is suitable for virtually all weather conditions. I would make some minor adjustments for walking in January or July, but not much. I tend to walk in March-April or Oct-Nov, when it is necessary to be prepared for any weather conditions. I know some items that I could save weight on, if necessary, but I am happy with this collection. I am quite comfortable carrying this weight (between 5 and 6 kg before water and snacks) and it provides me with everything I am likely to need. I do not want to be searching for a pharmacy when I am not feeling well, or looking for rain gear when it is raining!)
My approach to clothing is to have a walking outfit that consists of several light layers that can be put on or taken off to suit any conditions. Rain jacket and pants provide the ultimate protection against wind, rain or cold. Then I have an evening outfit, including down vest, that I wear to bed as well. The day outfit can stay a bit dirty and the evening outfit stays pretty clean, so my daily laundry is just socks and underwear.
I take a very lightweight sleeping bag, and have wool or down clothes I can also wear at night. I find that my body gets chilled easily when it is tired from walking all day, and I prefer not to risk being cold at night.
The attached list adds up to 5.3 kg (just under 12 pounds). In practice, a few odds and ends always creep into my back before departure, but those would be very small items like snacks, notes or extra toiletries that can/will be discarded. My pack is always under 6 kg, without water. I typically carry two 500 mL bottles of water and another 500 mL emergency drink in the bottom of my pack.
I wouldn't mind having it with me but so far I've found that I didn't use it much and besides, I found that the coffee I made with it was not a worthwhile substitute for the real thing.I would say that for any camino with long distances between stops and lots of towns where the bars don’t open in response to the few pilgrims dribbling by, the coil is a high-value item
Appreciate your well compiled list. Nice to learn and compare. Thank you.There have been several questions from new pilgrims about what things to take. So, I'm starting a new thread to address them, and have decided to post my packing list (even though it feels a bit like putting my laundry out on display). I am not seeking feedback on the list - rather it is for information of anyone who wants to see what I have settled on after 6 Caminos. (My first camino was not much different, because I followed the good advice from this forum.)
This list is suitable for virtually all weather conditions. I would make some minor adjustments for walking in January or July, but not much. I tend to walk in March-April or Oct-Nov, when it is necessary to be prepared for any weather conditions. I know some items that I could save weight on, if necessary, but I am happy with this collection. I am quite comfortable carrying this weight (between 5 and 6 kg before water and snacks) and it provides me with everything I am likely to need. I do not want to be searching for a pharmacy when I am not feeling well, or looking for rain gear when it is raining!)
My approach to clothing is to have a walking outfit that consists of several light layers that can be put on or taken off to suit any conditions. Rain jacket and pants provide the ultimate protection against wind, rain or cold. Then I have an evening outfit, including down vest, that I wear to bed as well. The day outfit can stay a bit dirty and the evening outfit stays pretty clean, so my daily laundry is just socks and underwear.
I take a very lightweight sleeping bag, and have wool or down clothes I can also wear at night. I find that my body gets chilled easily when it is tired from walking all day, and I prefer not to risk being cold at night.
The attached list adds up to 5.3 kg (just under 12 pounds). In practice, a few odds and ends always creep into my back before departure, but those would be very small items like snacks, notes or extra toiletries that can/will be discarded. My pack is always under 6 kg, without water. I typically carry two 500 mL bottles of water and another 500 mL emergency drink in the bottom of my pack.
Thanks for this visual - lists are great BUT to see the gear is tangibleThis is my winter packing list (below). It weights about 5.5kg without the clothes on my back (included in the picture), food and water. It fit into a 30L backpack.
For warmer seasons, just remove the warmer items and switch to very light jacket.
View attachment 50181
In seriousness, I would say that for any camino with long distances between stops and lots of towns where the bars don’t open in response to the few pilgrims dribbling by, the coil is a high-value item for caffeine-addicted peregrinos. https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...nged-my-life-on-the-camino.19167/#post-142134
Love your list @C clearly. I would say that as mine is practically the same!There have been several questions from new pilgrims about what things to take. So, I'm starting a new thread to address them, and have decided to post my packing list (even though it feels a bit like putting my laundry out on display). I am not seeking feedback on the list - rather it is for information of anyone who wants to see what I have settled on after 6 Caminos. (My first camino was not much different, because I followed the good advice from this forum.)
This list is suitable for virtually all weather conditions. I would make some minor adjustments for walking in January or July, but not much. I tend to walk in March-April or Oct-Nov, when it is necessary to be prepared for any weather conditions. I know some items that I could save weight on, if necessary, but I am happy with this collection. I am quite comfortable carrying this weight (between 5 and 6 kg before water and snacks) and it provides me with everything I am likely to need. I do not want to be searching for a pharmacy when I am not feeling well, or looking for rain gear when it is raining!)
My approach to clothing is to have a walking outfit that consists of several light layers that can be put on or taken off to suit any conditions. Rain jacket and pants provide the ultimate protection against wind, rain or cold. Then I have an evening outfit, including down vest, that I wear to bed as well. The day outfit can stay a bit dirty and the evening outfit stays pretty clean, so my daily laundry is just socks and underwear.
I take a very lightweight sleeping bag, and have wool or down clothes I can also wear at night. I find that my body gets chilled easily when it is tired from walking all day, and I prefer not to risk being cold at night.
The attached list adds up to 5.3 kg (just under 12 pounds). In practice, a few odds and ends always creep into my back before departure, but those would be very small items like snacks, notes or extra toiletries that can/will be discarded. My pack is always under 6 kg, without water. I typically carry two 500 mL bottles of water and another 500 mL emergency drink in the bottom of my pack.
Yup. The first thing I ordered (from Ebay, they're difficult to track down these days) when I got back. I think I read in S. Yates' book that you don't want to drink anything from those coffee machines.There is one important thing missing, IMO, though not for the Camino Francés. Just to alert you that @C clearly has politely declined our invitation to join the Electric Coil Club. In fact, she was so sorry she had brought one along last year that she gave it to me. Believe it or not, my own coil had fizzled out just the day before, how is that for synchronicity?
In seriousness, I would say that for any camino with long distances between stops and lots of towns where the bars don’t open in response to the few pilgrims dribbling by, the coil is a high-value item for caffeine-addicted peregrinos. https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...nged-my-life-on-the-camino.19167/#post-142134
Plug in the same outlet that you use to charge your phone. Every albergue has a few of those.I love the electric coil, even had one since my student days in MadridHave never taken one on any Camino though : you’re in the middle of nowhere, no cafe open, no .... nothing so.....where do you plug the thing??? Have I missed something?
@bobcat, when I first discovered this forum, prior to my first Camino, I recoiled in horror on seeing the many threads on equipmentWhile this thread is very informative, it's not a competition folks. All the technical doo-dah is exhausting. It's a pilgrimage, remember?
Wishing you the best camino experience. I can imagine the apprehensiveness at your separation, but you know, with the option to whatsup (as a friend of mine from Poland insists on calling it! ) you will be as near as you can be, under the circumstances!Thanks @ domigee. I too have learned a lot here and there's lots in my pack specifically because I read about it on the forum, even a members badge! I start in 2 weeks. Getting slightly nervous, or is that excitement I feel.
I have to compliment and express my love & gratitude to my wife and all the non-walking husbands and wives who support our efforts on Camino. We haven't been apart for 6 weeks since .... over 40 years!!!
Robert
Very exciting! Buen camino @Bobcat77 ! 4 weeks to go for me...Thanks @ domigee. I too have learned a lot here and there's lots in my pack specifically because I read about it on the forum, even a members badge! I start in 2 weeks. Getting slightly nervous, or is that excitement I feel.
I have to compliment and express my love & gratitude to my wife and all the non-walking husbands and wives who support our efforts on Camino. We haven't been apart for 6 weeks since .... over 40 years!!!
Robert
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