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As a home owner in Spain I can also get a long-term visa which does away with the 90/180 issue. However it still restricts me to 180 days a year. If I go over 180 I am deemed a tax resident with all the complications that introduces. Also the property value has to be over a particular threshold. France may well be the same.This may be good news for only a small number & proportion of UK pilgrims, and I'll steer right clear of the politics involved, but the new French immigration law has the following feature :
https://projetarcadie.com/content/decryptage-du-projet-loi-immigration
Les Britanniques propriétaires d’une résidence secondaire en France obtiennent automatiquement un visa long séjour en France.
That is to say, if you are a Briton residing in the UK but you also own a secondary or holiday home in France (or you're a direct family member), then you will be entitled by right to a long-term visa, meaning that you will not be subjected to the 90/180 Schengen Area rules (and with reference to earlier discussions in this place of long-term visas, this would be throughout the EU plus the non-EU Schengen countries).
Even when I was first walking the Le Puy route in 2010-2011, it seemed there were a great many of those small towns that were managing to survive only because of the large number of British holiday properties. So I hope this is beneficial for the economies of the small, otherwise withering towns that are so beautiful to visit.you also own a secondary or holiday home in France
French Law is different in several respects, including this one -- though as to the 180-day rule you refer to, it's the old pre-Schengen arrangement, and a reason why EU nationals can now stay up to 180 days in the UK.As a home owner in Spain I can also get a long-term visa which does away with the 90/180 issue. However it still restricts me to 180 days a year. If I go over 180 I am deemed a tax resident with all the complications that introduces. Also the property value has to be over a particular threshold. France may well be the same.
No I'm afraid that's not ... er ... right."then you will be entitled by right to a long-term visa,"
Not quite right, you will be then entitled by right to apply for a long-term visa. As in all such things the French reserve the right to refuse
"I got my current "permanent" 10-year residency card by right, in that it was automatically granted to me upon request, from provisions in the Brexit Treaty."No I'm afraid that's not ... er ... right.
I got my current "permanent" 10-year residency card by right, in that it was automatically granted to me upon request, from provisions in the Brexit Treaty.
Yes of course I had to apply, provide details and so, and within a certain time frame, but that's not the same as a normal "right to apply" for residency which every foreigner has in France, including those from other EU Member States (I did that once too, and it was a much more involved process), and which could be refused.
To acquire that visa for British home owners will be a simple formality from that right to it, with no possibility of a refusal by the French Authorities (unless the person were under extraordinary administrative measures and whatnot, but that would be the exception that proved the rule).
Despite your impressions, foreigners in France do have certain individual rights, and British homeowners in France have gained this new one.
Is that supposed to be some sort of "gotcha" ?"I got my current "permanent" 10-year residency card by right, in that it was automatically granted to me upon request, from provisions in the Brexit Treaty."
So. You applied for it then lol!! Upon request!
According to the news there can be no appeal either,The Constitutional Council's decisions are final, because it would be, erm, unconstitutional to argue with them!Oh well, this has been shot down by the French Constitutional Council.
Not quite true, the Government could have withdrawn the text for more revision, but they didn't.According to the news there can be no appeal either,The Constitutional Council's decisions are final, because it would be, erm, unconstitutional to argue with them!
Not necessarily political. There must be a lot of people (and businesses) all over the Schengen area that find the system, at least the 90/180 day part of it, doesn´t really work for them. And I´m not talking about expats here.I will of course completely avoid any and all political commentary ; though it is interesting Camino-wise that both Spain and France are testing the waters of trying to get the 90/180 day rules modified towards UK nationals and possibly some others
100% true. As you point out it could have been revised, it was not and now the decision is made it cannot be appealed. Your "what ifs" so not applyNot quite true, the Government could have withdrawn the text for more revision, but they didn't.
I looked at the decision itself, and it's part of a group of amendments that were struck down for procedural reasons, so that the content of the proposed amendment was not declared unconstitutional per se, and so it could be put forward at a later date -- I will of course completely avoid any and all political commentary ; though it is interesting Camino-wise that both Spain and France are testing the waters of trying to get the 90/180 day rules modified towards UK nationals and possibly some others.
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