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Hi Tracy, the masses are only in Spanish. I wish you well and a Buen Camino, Peter.Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum, that is new as a 'poster' I've read thru many different threads and posts about gear and experiences ect... and I can hardly wait to start this journey, which is currently slated for spring 2018!
I have read that there are several different churches that offer pilgrims masses on the Frances route, I am wondering what language most of those masses are said in, English, Spanish, something else? I am coming from the United States, I don't speak spanish but am sure willing to learn. I am interested in attending different pilgrims masses along the way, just curious about the language and other peoples experiences of pilgrim masses.
Thanks
Buen Camino
Thank You!! The church my family currently belongs to has 2-Spanish masses a month. guess i'll be finding my keister firmly planted in a pew at least once a month for the spanish mass.Spanish all the way.
The cathedral in Santiago do have a English spoken pilgrim mass. (Not the regular mass, but one specially in English)
Monasterio Benedictino de El Salvador de Monte Irago - Rabanal del Camino (León)Benedictine monks at Rabanal del Camino
i only attended a few masses on my walk but i would STRONGLY suggest you try to attend the mass in carrion de los condes as it was amazing the nuns at the hostel were warm kind and just very lovely,the pilgrim blessing at the end we were told it would be special and wow it was ! cant really describe it to do it justice but will say almost all the pilgrims walked out from the blessing with tears in their eyes . a must in my opinion and this is from someone that is not religious..my sister and i talked about it for days.Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum, that is new as a 'poster' I've read thru many different threads and posts about gear and experiences ect... and I can hardly wait to start this journey, which is currently slated for spring 2018!
I have read that there are several different churches that offer pilgrims masses on the Frances route, I am wondering what language most of those masses are said in, English, Spanish, something else? I am coming from the United States, I don't speak spanish but am sure willing to learn. I am interested in attending different pilgrims masses along the way, just curious about the language and other peoples experiences of pilgrim masses.
Thanks
Buen Camino
i only attended a few masses on my walk but i would STRONGLY suggest you try to attend the mass in carrion de los condes as it was amazing the nuns at the hostel were warm kind and just very lovely,the pilgrim blessing at the end we were told it would be special and wow it was ! cant really describe it to do it justice but will say almost all the pilgrims walked out from the blessing with tears in their eyes . a must in my opinion and this is from someone that is not religious..my sister and i talked about it for days.
I went to vespers in Santo Domingo del Calzada with a small group. Afterward I jokingly remarked that I should have paid more attention in Latin class, so I could have understood the hymns. I was informed that they were singing in Spanish. (I don't speak Spanish, and never took Latin, by the way.) I had to buy wine for the table afterward.knowing of special pilgrim masses and blessings
Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum, that is new as a 'poster' I've read thru many different threads and posts about gear and experiences ect... and I can hardly wait to start this journey, which is currently slated for spring 2018!
I have read that there are several different churches that offer pilgrims masses on the Frances route, I am wondering what language most of those masses are said in, English, Spanish, something else? I am coming from the United States, I don't speak spanish but am sure willing to learn. I am interested in attending different pilgrims masses along the way, just curious about the language and other peoples experiences of pilgrim masses.
Thanks
Buen Camino
Hi Tracy, I walked most recently a few weeks ago from Leon to SdC. I looked for an evening Mass wherever I happened to end up each evening, I would say about 5 or 6 times in 14 nights I found there was a 'pilgrim mass' usually at 7pm. Depends very much on the local priest. Mass was always in Spanish. I am a priest who speaks no Spanish, and was usually warmly invited (when I concelebrated) to read part of the Mass in English. Other nationalities when present were represented too. In some places where there was a special effort: the priest often asked for a reader to read in another language instead of Spanish for the first reading. Seeking out the Mass in the evening is a great (additional) way to meet people.
Somewhat different (and worth looking out for) are parochial or monastic or convent albergues, which tend to make a feature of Mass / evening prayer. For example Roncesvalles, the Benedictines in Rabanal, Benedictine Sisters in Sahagun and Leon, Parochial Albergue in Carrion de los Condes. Also Granon and Tosantos come to mind from a few years ago. And wonderful Dutch Evangleical albergue in Villamajor de Monjardin.
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Thank You!!! I am a Benedictine Oblate, so I have a special affinity for being able to pray any part of the Liturgy of the Hours in community. I will most definitely keep an eye out for the monasteries and convents that you mentioned.
List of places that have mass along the Camino.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zcf5zDxSIzv4.kExF_twLHLRg&msa=0
Print out to a size that works for you and laminate.
http://www.misas.org/sta.tic/descarga/missa_es_en.pdf
Apparently, Mass is sometimes said in English in Moratinos and a neighbouring village, east of Sahagun. Details can be found at: http://caminochaplaincy.blogspot.ca/
However, German and Dutch friends along the way agreed with me that it is fairly easy to follow in Spanish if you know the text in your own language.
In Galicia, you can find some masses in Galician and in Navarre you can find some masses in Basque. Otherwise, masses are in Spanish except those in English already quoted and the odd mass you might find in Latin. I heard somewhere that on some summer dates there was a mass in French in the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela but I can't confirm it.
Out of the Roman rite, you might find masses in other languages (e.g.: there was (is?) Byzantine rite mass in Ukranian in the seminaire of Pamplona twice a month).
Yes, it was. Moving and spiritual. Those sisters are amazing, hard-working dedicated ladies.Absolutely agree. Carrion de los Condes was wonderful. Incredibly moving and I certainly had tears in my eyes.
Thank You!!! I will print this and take it to Spanish masses in the U.S. as I prepare for this journey.
Muchos Gracious.
that little star is such a lovely simple thing ,i love mine tooYes, it was. Moving and spiritual. Those sisters are amazing, hard-working dedicated ladies.
I carry the little paper, cutout star they gave me in my wallet everyday.
Yeah, after I posted it I wondered if some readers would wonder what the heck I was talking about, ha ha.that little star is such a lovely simple thing ,i love mine tooi expect anyone that did not share the experience of that mass would look at us like we might just be a little bit nuts..to treasure such a simple gift!
An acquaintance had quite a time searching for Latin masses along the Camino but came up with nothing.
There's a mass in Latin at 10:00 a.m. in the Cathedral of Pamplona on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation.
I found that one for him, but he wanted an assurance that this was the Usus Antiquor (the old form of the mass) rather than the Novus Ordo (which is what one will generally find) in Latin
It was our experience that almost every village or town big enough to have a church, usually had a Pilgrim's Mass or occasionally a Benediction every night at 7:00 PM. The Mass was in Spanish, but the Priest often had a blessing for the Pilgrims that included English. Those small Pilgrim gatherings were at times much more emotional than the final Mass in Santiago. Some of the Priest and Nuns went out of their way to recognize the Pilgrims. One evening Mass the Benedictine Nuns played the music and sang. After the Mass, one of the Nuns gave a welcoming talk to the Pilgrims (She was very excited that she got through the talk in correct English), and the Nuns had made stars that they gave each Pilgrim. It was always a special part of the Camino.Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum, that is new as a 'poster' I've read thru many different threads and posts about gear and experiences ect... and I can hardly wait to start this journey, which is currently slated for spring 2018!
I have read that there are several different churches that offer pilgrims masses on the Frances route, I am wondering what language most of those masses are said in, English, Spanish, something else? I am coming from the United States, I don't speak spanish but am sure willing to learn. I am interested in attending different pilgrims masses along the way, just curious about the language and other peoples experiences of pilgrim masses.
Thanks
Buen Camino
I thought they ask people doing retreats with them to read. Perhaps they do when they have them. Doing a retreat with them is something I would like to do one day.There is Vespers [Evening Prayer ] at 7 pm each night, and during this service pilgrims from Gaucelmo [ or another albergue if needed ] read passages in English, German, French, ....
Alan
Is that where the nuns give you a hand drawn star to take with you? I still have mine in my passport.Absolutely agree. Carrion de los Condes was wonderful. Incredibly moving and I certainly had tears in my eyes.
acto de penitencia which starts (so you can google) with Por mi culpa...
AFAIK, it's usus antiquior (aka Tridentine mass) but I can't tell you for sure.
I can give somnolencent adviceThat was my guess, but he wanted "a solemn assurance." I couldn't give it.
It is I and I still have mine also. The Peregrino Masses definitely changed the Camino to a Pilgrimage, from a long walk, if you had any doubts before.Is that where the nuns give you a hand drawn star to take with you? I still have mine in my passport.
Tracy, in addition to the Mass translation Bajaracer gives, if you have a smartphone there's a free app, "Laudate," that links to the daily Mass Bible readings. In addition to the obvious benefits, this can be especially useful if the priest decides to give a lengthy homily and you find yourself, as I once did, sitting through a 45-minute sermon. In Czech.
Laudate also links to the daily Liturgy of the Hours readings for Vespers/Evening Prayer.
Is that where the nuns give you a hand drawn star to take with you? I still have mine in my passport.
It is I and I still have mine also.
The masses I attended on the camino were all in Spanish. I don't know spanish, and there were no mass books or hymnals for me to follow the prayers, so I wish I had taken one along (in spanish) from my parish. And I wish I had taken the time to learn the Our Father in Spanish by heart before I walked. -- We were walking during holy week, and kept missing the times for mass/services. So I suggested to my son that we say a "Glory Be" every time we saw a cross. --I've never said so many "Glory Be"s in one day in my life.Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum, that is new as a 'poster' I've read thru many different threads and posts about gear and experiences ect... and I can hardly wait to start this journey, which is currently slated for spring 2018!
I have read that there are several different churches that offer pilgrims masses on the Frances route, I am wondering what language most of those masses are said in, English, Spanish, something else? I am coming from the United States, I don't speak spanish but am sure willing to learn. I am interested in attending different pilgrims masses along the way, just curious about the language and other peoples experiences of pilgrim masses.
Thanks
Buen Camino
The masses I attended on the camino were all in Spanish. I don't know spanish, and there were no mass books or hymnals for me to follow the prayers, so I wish I had taken one along (in spanish) from my parish. And I wish I had taken the time to learn the Our Father in Spanish by heart before I walked. -- We were walking during holy week, and kept missing the times for mass/services. So I suggested to my son that we say a "Glory Be" every time we saw a cross. --I've never said so many "Glory Be"s in one day in my life.
was this Australian guy walking wiht a couple of pals by any chance?cos my sister and i were walking in sept and this guy sang after the mass in Carrion des condes,, that was the most amazing spine tingling mass i have ever attended.Whether you are Catholic, (practicing or lapsed), Protestant, Jewish or an agnostic, I would encourage you to attend a Mass.
I tried to attend a daily local Mass in each village/town/city as I was walking on behalf of several intentions. I do speak some Spanish and was able to follow the Mass. The townspeople and fellow pilgrims make the gathering special. The locals though were incredibly kind and welcoming. One of the many beautiful memories of the Camino.
Who can forget the Australian tenor at San Juan de Obrega this past September! He was a member of the Australian National Opera. Or the Mass at Carrion des Condes. There was an equally special classical guitar concert afterwards.
One of the most moving experiences was walking into the Convent at Sahagun, having just missed the morning Mass in Spanish, and meeting Fr. Uli, a German priest, leading his pilgrims on the Camino. It was the first time I had attended Mass in German. He and his entire group made me feel very welcomed and special.
As the saying goes: The Camino provides.
Enjoy your Camino.
we were trailing behind you , we left st jean on the 11th of sept, we had the most wonderful time hope you did too, that guys singing in carrion was excellent,we laughed alot cos we met them again sitting on a wall and one called over n said " you girls want to see a snake ? " hold in your mind an image of 3 guys askin this in the middle of no where and of course we said yes !!and of course there was a snake in the stream.. it was later we laughed and said if that had happened anywhere else we would have most likely told those guys where to to in no uncertain terms,Yes. Those pals were his two brothers. I missed him at Carrion but heard him in San Juan de Ortega. Jennie, what day did you start from St. Jean Pied de Port. There were two sisters (I think) who were definitely Irish staying at the Maison Donamaria. I left St. Jean on Sept 8th.
List of places that have mass along the Camino.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zcf5zDxSIzv4.kExF_twLHLRg&msa=0
Print out to a size that works for you and laminate.
http://www.misas.org/sta.tic/descarga/missa_es_en.pdf
Thanks very much for your entry on this subject. I see there are 2 convents at Carrion de los Condes. Which one had the mass you attend, Parish Albergue Santa Maria (Benedictine) or Albergue Espiritu Santo (Dughters of Charity)?i only attended a few masses on my walk but i would STRONGLY suggest you try to attend the mass in carrion de los condes as it was amazing the nuns at the hostel were warm kind and just very lovely,the pilgrim blessing at the end we were told it would be special and wow it was ! cant really describe it to do it justice but will say almost all the pilgrims walked out from the blessing with tears in their eyes . a must in my opinion and this is from someone that is not religious..my sister and i talked about it for days.
hi James, i think it was the santa Maria albergue,we were hot and tired and were greeted with a cold drink and a very warm smile,the albergue was in the town behind the large church as you enter the town.I do not attend mass very often but i was surprised to find myself and almost all others there moved to tears by the blessing at the end,the priest that did the mass also did this as though it was a wonderful thing he was sharing with us [even though i did not understand the words i felt the magic]i hope you get to attend and let us know if it was as wonderful for you.Thanks very much for your entry on this subject. I see there are 2 convents at Carrion de los Condes. Which one had the mass you attend, Parish Albergue Santa Maria (Benedictine) or Albergue Espiritu Santo (Dughters of Charity)?
great reminder,if anyone suggested to me that i might enjoy a "song fest " with some nuns and a bunch of strangers i would have laughed in their face and run away,, however it was really fun and uplifting so PLEASE DONT RUN AWAYThey have a song fest in the foyer each evening, too:
http://www.gronze.com/castilla-y-leon/palencia/carrion-condes/albergue-parroquial-santa-maria
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