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There is a cross on the Portela de Alto Grande mountain between Ponte de Lima and Rubiães but please do not place any stones or items there . The Portuguese do not appreciate that . the Cruz dos Franceses or Cruz dos Mortos, is a homanage to the Portuguese who fight against invading French army .
Mars, this topic has come up a few times in the past and the discussions have resulted in some strong views being expressed - not that you would be expected to know that of course!
Probably the best thing is just to leave your stone somewhere that feels right and special to you, and feels like it does not impose something that might become unwanted on the people and lands you are passing through. I would just leave it at that. But if you really want to dig into this a bit more, here are three earlier threads...
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/where-to-place-my-rock.50057/#post-546830
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...ng-point-on-the-portuguese.47235/#post-507220
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...t-on-the-camino-portuguese.28008/#post-229801
Best wishes
Yes there is. A cross placed on Napoleon's pass, as I recall. Lots of rubbish was left around too, sadly, when I was there in 2016.Hi there,
I liked walking with a stone and placing it at Cruz de Ferro when we did our Camino Frances.
Is there a similar place for this on the Portuguese Camino? I guess I can place it anywhere, but just wanted to know if there might be a place of significance for this ritual..
Thank you!
This past April - May (2017) when I walked the Camino Portuguese to Santiago from Lisbon, I deposited a stone to commemorate my recently passed father at the international borderline on the steel girder bridge between Valenca, Portugal and Tui, Spain.
A beautiful tribute in the naval tradition, Tom. I'm sure your dad was present there with you.This past April - May (2017) when I walked the Camino Portuguese to Santiago from Lisbon, I deposited a stone to commemorate my recently passed father at the international borderline on the steel girder bridge between Valenca, Portugal and Tui, Spain. The line is painted on the railing and deck iIRC.
As a Navy veteran, my dad would have appreciated my little private ceremony. I read the commitment prayer from the US Navy service for a burial at sea. Then facing the setting sun in the west, in the direction of the Atlantic, I deposited "dad" over the side. With a final salute, I continued into Spain...
It worked for me. Moreover, unlike Cruz de Ferro and similar repositories, it does not detract from the view by creating a mountain of assorted stones, rocks, and a host of other mementos deposited by passing pilgrims. You may not know that periodically, these items must be cleaned up and removed. Another mountain soon replaces the replaced items.
Depositing my father's stone into the River Minho ensures that it will repose there, undisturbed, like forever.
Hope this helps the dialog.
See my post above.you are speaking about the same cross.Yes there is. A cross placed on Napoleon's pass, as I recall. Lots of rubbish was left around too, sadly, when I was there in 2016.
Also, I recommend taking a train from downtown Lisbon (Oriente Station) up to Azambuja. This leap frogs over the industrial belt that surrounds Lisbon, and saved perhaps two days walking.
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