Adrian Hughes
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Summer 2017. Walking my first camino.
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Good old meteonodazole is my go to, for myself and my dogs. Never leave home without it. But since it's an antibiotic farmacias won't sell it to you anymore without a Rx. But walk into any local clinic and ask them for a prescription.
That or Cipro.
As I said, he needs an Rx to get an antibiotic and any doctor knows what to use for GI issues. No matter what antibiotics I mention, he cannot get them without seeing a doc. No great rosk there.Or it could be something different. What works for one person does not work for another one.
We do not know about the possible allergies of the OP.
So Adrian, when in doubt go to the clinic. Spanish doctors and nurses are higly professional.
All the best!
As I said, he needs an Rx to get an antibiotic and any doctor knows what to use for GI issues. No matter what antibiotics I mention, he cannot get them without seeing a doc. No great rosk there.
Just no need to go to a large university hospital or fancy clinic for that. A gradual approach is the typical way of going at it, sort of the 80-20 rule.
Well to be precise he can get antibiotics in Spain without seeing a doctor. I got antibiotics over the counter from a farmacia earlier this year. And was grateful. The pharmacist was excellent and very careful in her questions of me before dispensing the antibiotic. But unless you know exactly what your problem is and/or exactly what you want this is definitely not the recommended way to deal with an unknown intestinal tract problem.As I said, he needs an Rx to get an antibiotic and any doctor knows what to use for GI issues. No matter what antibiotics I mention, he cannot get them without seeing a doc. No great rosk there.
Just no need to go to a large university hospital or fancy clinic for that. A gradual approach is the typical way of going at it, sort of the 80-20 rule.
I have heard so many accounts of stomach bugs in that particular area of Spain (and have suffered myself). I am convinced that there is something wrong with the water in Carrion or just after. When I venture there again, I will drink only bottled water for a few days.
Excellent, excellent, excellent advice!Ah, this is definitely suffering, Adrian!
I can't answer your clinic question, but as one who has weathered many such infections (in Asia) I have a few suggestions (I'm not a medical professional, and you should see one if you are really concerned):
Wishing you speedy recovery and buen camino!
- Do not take imodium (stopper) because it doesn't deal with the problem, but instead just freezes the gut so the runs stop. So whatever is in there can't get out. You want it out. So if that diarrhea relief was imodium, and the symptoms came back this could be the reason. Hydrate very well, lay low, and give it a day to see how you are. It may settle by itself.
- Plain yogurt (with live cultures) is something that's worth eating; it populates the gut with 'good' microflora.
- If you're using a water bladder, clean it really well with bleach, especially the hosing. If there's anything in there, you may be re-infecting yourself.
Yet doctors hand out prescriptions of antibiotics to anyone going "south" on holiday in case they do get GI trouble. And it's not as if anyone with GI and consults their GP is sent for a culture before given a prescription. Even for my repetitive cellulitis I am given intravenous, or sometimes oral, antibiotics well beforw the culture report comes back, because I need them asap. Culture is nice to have if go to antibiotic has not worked.If you take antibiotics without lab tests to see what you're dealing with...
And me in exactly the same place !Yup, happened to me too., but didn't last - wishing @Adrian Hughes well.
Well, they are no longer supposed to give you antibiotics, as well as other meds, but sometimes they do. I once needed diurrectics: 1st place told me to go to the clinic fisrt and get a Rx, second place had no problem doing it.Well to be precise he can get antibiotics in Spain without seeing a doctor. I got antibiotics over the counter from a farmacia earlier this year.
I got sick there too! Ended up at the clinic in Sahagun too. Hmmmm.And me in exactly the same place !
I suspect that you have revealed a pattern of some significance .
That is exactly where I also got a sudden and violent stomach upset on my camino in 2014. It 'passed' after a day and I was able to continue on, albeit slowly, after a day's rest. My strength returned in a few days, but funnily I went off both coffee and wine for the rest of the camino - couldn't face them (shame).I have heard so many accounts of stomach bugs in that particular area of Spain (and have suffered myself). I am convinced that there is something wrong with the water in Carrion or just after. When I venture there again, I will drink only bottled water for a few days.
Ah, this is definitely suffering, Adrian!
I can't answer your clinic question, but as one who has weathered many such infections (in Asia) I have a few suggestions (I'm not a medical professional, and you should see one if you are really concerned):
Wishing you speedy recovery and buen camino!
- Do not take imodium (stopper) because it doesn't deal with the problem, but instead just freezes the gut so the runs stop. So whatever is in there can't get out. You want it out. So if that diarrhea relief was imodium, and the symptoms came back this could be the reason. Hydrate very well, lay low, and give it a day to see how you are. It may settle by itself.
- Plain yogurt (with live cultures) is something that's worth eating; it populates the gut with 'good' microflora.
- If you're using a water bladder, clean it really well with bleach, especially the hosing. If there's anything in there, you may be re-infecting yourself.
A while back I started a thread about bugs that I contracted in this same area on more than one occasion. Indeed , the bug that I picked up in Poblacion de Campo in 2014 so nearly beckoned a premature visit to St. Peter at the pearly gates.I have heard so many accounts of stomach bugs in that particular area of Spain (and have suffered myself). I am convinced that there is something wrong with the water in Carrion or just after. When I venture there again, I will drink only bottled water for a few days.
Hello,
I started to have a stomach bug in Terradillos on the 26th. I felt really weak the following day and could only walk 10k to Sahagún were I rested that day and the following day. I was given diarrhea relief by a doctor in a small emergency clinic but that only temporarily worked. I did feel better on the 29th and 30th and walked to León.
But again on the evening of the 30th I started to feel bad again. I would like to know of a good hospital/clinic where I can get to the bottom of this problem. Its the worst stomach bug I have had by far.
I've spent a good part of my life in the third world, have some medical training, and am fairly succeptable to stomach bugs so I'll give my free internet medical advice. Most upsets are bacterial. While you can wait them out, it is often better to nip them in the bud, especially if travelling. A study by the Indian military found that the most effective approach is a one large dose of Ciprofloxacin (500-750mg), at the
first sign of trouble. I find this works far better than the old guidelines of wait three days, then do a one week course of antibiotics. My physician friends agree.
If that does not knock it out, get to a doctor. The medicines for amoeba are not to be taken casually.
My (not insignificant) experience with gastrointestinal bugs
I am not a doctor, but I play one on the Forum...
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