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Many thanks for the reply! Yea, I’ll probably do just thatWalk from Pamplona, many do, if you want to start today. It's unlikely that any transport, except your feet, will run on Christmas day or the day after.
Good luck
Thanks! I’ll start from SJPDP and consider your advice from RoncesvallesThere is nothing wrong about starting your camino from Pamplona.
If you feel you must get to SJPDP, an expensive taxi or walk there. You could walk there and bus from Roncesvalles back to Pamplona.
Not willing to pay that much for a ride, so I’ll walk. There would be no other chance for me to come if it wasn’t now, so I’m lucky to be here. Walking some more will be okayTaxi..if you can find ne that will drive you there on Christmas. But expect to pay 150-200 or more euros because it is a holiday!
No luck checking the bus schedule even for tomorrow... but I’ll keep tryingGiven that it’s already 1:30 pm there, is there a bus to Roncesvalles tomorrow?
really helpful, I am trying that right now!You may want to check blablacar.es
Hello all,
I came to Pamplona in a kind of rush, hard to explain but the bottom line is that right now I’m stuck trying to find a way to SJPDP. It’s Xmas day and now I know there’s nothing I can do. I’d be willing to walk to SJPDP, but I was wondering if there’s a way for me to go there from Pamplona. I’ve been to the bus station but they’d give me no information saying “it’s Xmas, nothing to do”. ALSA and Conda websites come up with no answers..
I know it looks silly to be stuck like this, but walking to Santiago is probably the most important thing I should accomplish in this time of my life. Thanks!
I was thinking about exactly that. The circumstances led me to this situation, which doesn’t seem bad, it’s just a matter of considering the options. It would be nice to start from the “start”, as I chose the Camino to reset... flexibility might be one aspect I need to reviseIt’s the off season, the buses between Pamplona and St Jean stopped in mid October.
Sounds like the Camino is trying to teach you the lesson of flexibility, I guess the question to ask yourself is why are you so intent on starting from SJPDP?
Having started from Pamplona on my 2nd of 3 caminos I can honestly say that I have not once regretted it and in a week or two you won’t even be thinking about the fact you didn’t start in St Jean, it’s still a long way to Santiago from Pamplona!
Thanks for sharing!Last August my wife and I caught a bus from Pamplona to Roncevalles where we stayed overnight. We then walked the Val Carlos route to SJPDP, stayed the night in SJPDP, before walking back over the Napoleon route in glorious sunshine to Roncevalles. Highly recommended.
I don’t know yet, walking to SJPDP doesn’t seem so badAs the top route is closed for the winter, you might want to come back to SJPdP another time round, right!?
Count this as a teaser that m,akes you return on a bright summer´s day.
So are you on the off from Pamplona t´morrow ??
Thank you so much for the tip about Muxía! I searched about it and I’m glad you mentioned it. I may not start from SJPP but I may walk to the “end of the world”!When I walk the Camino again, for the forth time, I plan to start in Pamplona. As someone told me on my second trek, “not a day goes by when I don’t think of the Camino”. Twice I started in Roncesvalles, once in SJPP. Both were great.
The start from SJPP is a long slog, even in good weather. I can’t imagine how miserable it would be this time of year. If you start from Pamplona, you may have time to finish your walk in Muxia.
Either way, it’s the journey not the destination.
Thank you for the advice!It will take you three days to walk to SJPdP. If you feel that you must start there, then wait in Pamplona to take the bus. But as others have said, there's really no need to to start in St Jean. It's really not "the start".
You’re rightPamplona on Christmas Day isn’t a bad place to be ‘stuck’.
Thank you for the advice!
You are at the start now, so start walking! Don't complicate your experience by fussing with a pre-conceived starting point and precise route.It would be nice to start from the “start”,
I hope you now realize that it would take 3 days to get there (and it would be difficult to follow arrows in the wrong direction) and then 3 days to return to Pamplona. You wouldn't be able to walk the higher Napoleon route, which is closed for winter. You don't have so many extra days to complete this. Not everyone finds it easy or even possible to walk 800 km in 34 days.I don’t know yet, walking to SJPDP doesn’t seem so bad
Same as always happens with people who only come here for advice when they have a problem, not having done any thinking before they leave home. The OP finally came to a decision and is now not concerned about anything other than doing it the way they were going to do it in the first place. You know how they say advice is only worth what you pay for it? Here is a good example. There are others. Take a look on the Norte Forum. Stuck in the snow in Grandas could still be there, for all the communication we have had. We could write a list.
That is hardly fair , there are numerous reasons why , the poster may be on a bus without WiFi , the phone battery dead or like thousands of pilgrims maybe they do not acess their phones till finishing in the day and settled in an Albergue .Same as always happens with people who only come here for advice when they have a problem, not having done any thinking before they leave home. The OP finally came to a decision and is now not concerned about anything other than doing it the way they were going to do it in the first place. You know how they say advice is only worth what you pay for it? Here is a good example. There are others. Take a look on the Norte Forum. Stuck in the snow in Grandas could still be there, for all the communication we have had. We could write a list.
Happy New Year and looking forward to another Camino in May .Yes, good point about maybe unable to reply. For this OP, anyway.
Happy New Year!
Gee.....Same as always happens with people who only come here for advice when they have a problem, not having done any thinking before they leave home. The OP finally came to a decision and is now not concerned about anything other than doing it the way they were going to do it in the first place. You know how they say advice is only worth what you pay for it? Here is a good example. There are others. Take a look on the Norte Forum. Stuck in the snow in Grandas could still be there, for all the communication we have had. We could write a list.
SO WHAT HAPPENED?!?!?!!
Fair point Annette. I wouldn't want to scare anyone off. Just saying that this is usually what happens. So maybe Camilla will prove me wrong and let us know what is happening. That would be a pleasure. Now what did we do before this forum existed? Oh yes, I bought a map, some bags for my bike, and a guide book. Then I set off from home, which luckily for me is in France. That's really about as prepared as you need to be.. Mobile phone? No. Forum? No. Internet? Remember dial up modems? Yes, I know it's winter. We have winter here, too. Anyway, Camilla, if you are here say hi! Enjoy the walk wherever you started.
We are all here to support you as best we can! Winter albergues open are limited.Thanks everyone for the messages. It is really amazing to have come here at all, and now I can choose from so many alternatives. My flight back home is on February 5 from Pamplona, which gives me lots of extra days (I considered 34 days from SJPP to Santiago). I was, and perhaps still am, afraid of not being able to “survive”, after all, I’m on my own, kind of on a budget, no planning and a first timer.. all I got is a strong will to overcome a horrible year fighting depression and a disturbed and erratic judgement of my self.
I can’t thank you all experienced pilgrims enough!
Hurry. You have just 20 minutes.There is a bus on Friday.
Except that the Napoleonic Route is closed until April 2020 and given the way the forecast weather can and does change in less than two or three hours I suggest that our OP give St Jean a miss, yes it might be one of the starting points for the Frances, but imho it really does not have lot to recommended it. So I suggest that he start from Roncesvalles.Last August my wife and I caught a bus from Pamplona to Roncevalles where we stayed overnight. We then walked the Val Carlos route to SJPDP, stayed the night in SJPDP, before walking back over the Napoleon route in glorious sunshine to Roncevalles. Highly recommended.
And don't forget that there is a train strike going on in France that affects both the connection Hendaye-Bayonne and Bayonne-SJPdP. This trip may take a couple of days ...Go from Pamplona to San Sebastian via ALSA bus, San Sebastian to Irun via Renfe Cercanias train. Irun to Hendaye via Metro Donostealdea, Hendaye to Bayonne via SNCF train and Bayonne to SJPdP via SNCF train.
It's Friday evening in Pamplona right now. The next Arteida bus to Roncesvalles will arrive in Roncesvalles tomorrow Saturday at 17:10. It will be night time by then, too late to start walking. No bus on Sunday, btw.Autobus Arteida goes from Pamplona to Roncesvalles.
Not sure that I understand this suggestion. A bag transfer company that will transport a passenger from Pamplona to SJPP for the price of a bag transfer? I think that may fail for a number of reasons, one of them is the fact that it's December and there are no bag transfer companies operating right now between SJPP and Pamplona, let alone vice versa. Express Bourricot will start again in mid-March and Correos on the 1st of April 2020.The ONLY way I can think of that may work is a bag transfer company. Beyond that, a taxi will do it but it will be at least 100 Euro.
No, that is not what I said. but a bag transfer company will take a person from one place to the next charging what they will, definitely more than the price of a bag. Whether they operate through the Holidays, I do not know, but, no one else will be, outside of taxis.Not sure that I understand this suggestion. A bag transfer company that will transport a passenger from Pamplona to SJPP for the price of a bag transfer? I think that may fail for a number of reasons, one of them is the fact that it's December and there are no bag transfer companies operating right now between SJPP and Pamplona, let alone vice versa.
Ah, the suspense! Where did @camilla_petzet start her winter walk to Santiago and how did she get to the start?
No, that is not what I said. but a bag transfer company will take a person from one place to the next charging what they will, definitely more than the price of a bag. Whether they operate through the Holidays, I do not know, but, no one else will be, outside of taxis.
My experience, especially around SJPP to Pamplona is that they will take passengers, ergo, my mentioning it.Not in my experience. MOST bag transport companies are not licensed to carry passengers and will decline. Some will, but rarely in my experience.
Hello all,
I came to Pamplona in a kind of rush, hard to explain but the bottom line is that right now I’m stuck trying to find a way to SJPDP. It’s Xmas day and now I know there’s nothing I can do. I’d be willing to walk to SJPDP, but I was wondering if there’s a way for me to go there from Pamplona. I’ve been to the bus station but they’d give me no information saying “it’s Xmas, nothing to do”. ALSA and Conda websites come up with no answers..
I know it looks silly to be stuck like this, but walking to Santiago is probably the most important thing I should accomplish in this time of my life. Thanks!
My experience, especially around SJPP to Pamplona is that they will take passengers, ergo, my mentioning it.
Last August my wife and I caught a bus from Pamplona to Roncevalles where we stayed overnight. We then walked the Val Carlos route to SJPDP, stayed the night in SJPDP, before walking back over the Napoleon route in glorious sunshine to Roncevalles. Highly recommended.
Agreed! I loved my few days there in August. Husband and I were just talking this morning about how we miss the wonderful sandwich shop there, Saint Wich.I was “stuck in Pamplona” for 3 1/2 weeks due to 2 eye surgeries in August of 2014. What a wonderful place to be stuck in!!! Check out the old city and the museums - there’s so much history to learn. Visit the Cathedral! And enjoy the rich espressos! What luck to be stuck!
HiWell, as all this started on the 25th December, aka Christmas Day, I expect Camille is some place else by now. If not, it's getting to be a long holiday In Pamplona. Maybe we will hear about it later on, but I'm not holding my breath.
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