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So the decision to have it removed came from the recent priest or parish board?
According to a German site the diocese of Ciudad Real has justified the removal because the furniture in the sacristy needed to be rearranged. A cupboard now stands in the place of the painting. The work was "not censored" and they are looking for a new place to put the painting...
In my limited opinion, it's "ok" but doesn't evoke any type of spiritual feeling.
Maybe I'm just old?
LOL, yes, whenever I see him on a white horse I will now have visions of "My little pony".From this point forward I shall reprogram my mind to envision a unicorn and rainbow every time mr. matamoros is invoked.
Something got lost in the translations. According to Spanish newspapers, the painter calls his works superrealistic, nor surrealistic. That would be Dalí and his Santiago El Grande.
https://www.dalipaintings.com/santiago-el-grande.jspYou are absolutely correct. And for the record: I like the Dalí Santiago a lot more.
Yes, A pilgrim in a poncho waiting for every piece of his laundry to get dried in the albergue.Looks like a pilgrim in a poncho to me!
A LOT more!You are absolutely correct. And for the record: I like the Dalí Santiago a lot more.
Ah yes, Dali's painting is much better - but he was a genius. I still like the Muñoz. And if the purpose of Art is to make us think, to question, to react and to interact with the work - it seems to have succeeded on this forum at least!
From this point forward I shall reprogram my mind to envision a unicorn and rainbow every time mr. matamoros is invoked.
This is amazing stuff.
this Santiago painting may have a brilliant future as a reproduction on wine bottles, teddy bears and mugs.
I am not sure how the "sexy and erotic" applies. After all, the traditional paintings of San Roque have shown plenty of thigh for hundreds of years. Presumably this was the inspiration for the modern attempt of Santiago by Muñoz.More on the painting by Muñoz in this article:
Thigh's The Limit: https://www.euroweeklynews.com/news/on-euro-weekly-news/spain-news-in-english/1471532-thigh’s-the-limit-painting-covered-in-spanish-church-for-being-‘too-sexy’
Maybe the pouting Zoolander/Ben Stiller look?I am not sure how the "sexy and erotic" applies.
Can't remember that but you can look at the angels on the picture .Has anyone noticed the paintings in Samos - an angel who looks like Ava Gardner? So I'm told.
I'm not sure whether this comment refers to Santiago the Sexy one or Santiago the Knight. This is only a minefield when posters are unable to distinguish between facts and their own opinion. I'm interested in what's going on in Spain, both in the past and now. Calling an action or event politically correct is an opinion, reporting the action or event is not. There are a number of reasons why I found the article about Santiago as the patron saint of Membrilla (the town with the modern painting discussed here) interesting.Being politically correct, especially as regards age old traditions and beliefs can be a minefield. Best not to venture there...
That’s the best angel I have ever seen!
Without the many diverse replies in this thread, I would never have given a second thought to the painting or had a second look at it ... but currently I'm wondering whether overweight angels can flyBogong(ducking for cover)
Can someone do me a favour and listen to the interview at http://cadenaser.com/emisora/2018/02/07/ser_ciudad_real/1517982510_252194.html - according to the painter, is the apostle the one on the horse and the guy in the blue tunic just a personaje?
Can someone do me a favour and listen to the interview at http://cadenaser.com/emisora/2018/02/07/ser_ciudad_real/1517982510_252194.html - according to the painter, is the apostle the one on the horse and the guy in the blue tunic just a personaje?
Thank you so much, @Sailor, I can handle written text in Spanish quite well but the spoken word is another story altogether. Your help is much appreciated.Santiago is the one on the horse, the [sexy guy] is just a "personaje" [he did not explain what this character represents].
some interesting avenues, quite unexpectedly
Looks like he's scratching his thigh. ( Bed bugs?) Body is I'll proportioned and strange. IMHO.Just read the following in the newsletter of the Dutch Society of St Jacob:
"The 87-year-old painter Antonio Ximenez Muñoz is furious because his painting of the apostle Santiago, which was displayed in the church of his native village of Membrilla in Castilla-La Mancha, has been removed.
The artist made the painting as a commission from the previous pastor of the church. He currently lives in Miami, and recently visited his birthplace. The painting appeared to be removed because the image of St. James in a tunic with a naked thigh was 'too erotic'.
The artist now demands that his work is re-displayed. 'It is a surrealistic work', he remarked, 'and I had announced in advance that I would not make a medieval work'."
This is what the dispute is about:
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Read the article and not mentioned the painting,particularly I don't think it will be ever in a churchMaybe the pouting Zoolander/Ben Stiller look?
Here's an article from last year about Membrilla's patron saint with photos of the images and statues of Santiago that are on display and in use. Not a peep about the modern painting and the only controversy mentioned is the controversy concerning the iconographic representation of Santiago as matamoros. If I understand correctly, there was some remodelling done ... it made interesting reading for me.
the artist said in the interview the one in the horse is himself and the one with the blue tunic is Santiago also said that is an alegoria.Can someone do me a favour and listen to the interview at http://cadenaser.com/emisora/2018/02/07/ser_ciudad_real/1517982510_252194.html - according to the painter, is the apostle the one on the horse and the guy in the blue tunic just a personaje?
I think so, looks like one to me. You have a good eye for details.Is that a hockey stick he is holding?
That angel is one of my favorites. Certainly lends itself to many humorous captions, including, 'Pilgrims, always more pilgrims! Wonderful!' 'Yes! Score!' and 'Love this new shade of nail polish.'
That time when Liam Helmswoth posed for a painting of St. James.Just read the following in the newsletter of the Dutch Society of St Jacob:
"The 87-year-old painter Antonio Ximenez Muñoz is furious because his painting of the apostle Santiago, which was displayed in the church of his native village of Membrilla in Castilla-La Mancha, has been removed.
The artist made the painting as a commission from the previous pastor of the church. He currently lives in Miami, and recently visited his birthplace. The painting appeared to be removed because the image of St. James in a tunic with a naked thigh was 'too erotic'.
The artist now demands that his work is re-displayed. 'It is a surrealistic work', he remarked, 'and I had announced in advance that I would not make a medieval work'."
This is what the dispute is about:
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