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Between Villafranca Montes de Oca and San Juan de Ortega there was a great resting place with benches, totem poles andvarious wooden art. A place of good vibes.
It is now completely demolished: someone has used chain saws to ruin it completely. The remains are now lying to rot.
Not able to attach a photo now.
It is beyond restoration.I remember it well - a quirky little rest stop in the woods. Who would destroy a thing like that? I hope someone restores it.
Nearby there is a memorial for victims of the Spanish Civil War: 300 people were buried there in a mass grave. Perhaps there is a connection? Monumento la Pedraja, gps 42,3738535, -3,3409197Between Villafranca Montes de Oca and San Juan de Ortega there was a great resting place with benches, totem poles andvarious wooden art. A place of good vibes.
It is now completely demolished: someone has used chain saws to ruin it completely. The remains are now lying to rot.
Not able to attach a photo
I believe there is a different connection, according to some Spanish people I talked to: tourism pilgrims.Nearby there is a memorial for victims of the Spanish Civil War: 300 people were buried there in a mass grave. Perhaps there is a connection? Monumento la Pedraja, gps 42,3738535, -3,3409197
oh no, that is so sad.Between Villafranca Montes de Oca and San Juan de Ortega there was a great resting place with benches, totem poles andvarious wooden art. A place of good vibes.
It is now completely demolished: someone has used chain saws to ruin it completely. The remains are now lying to rot.
Not able to attach a photo now.
My guess: the land got a new owner and he / she decided to do something else with it.
That was my first thought, too.
It was never an official rest stop. Just one of many makeshift rest areas, like the GardZen or the rock piles you pass in the (first week?). People will build a new oasis. They can't destroy the Camino spirit.Between Villafranca Montes de Oca and San Juan de Ortega there was a great resting place with benches, totem poles andvarious wooden art. A place of good vibes.
It is now completely demolished: someone has used chain saws to ruin it completely. The remains are now lying to rot.
Not able to attach a photo now.
I do not have an answer as to the why but I do have a speculation. As a place that encourages a break it also encourages a bathroom break. I can imagine a property owner growing weary of the toilet paper and human feces that has become so common just off the trail throughout the journey. I can understand a landowner wanting people to just "move along."Between Villafranca Montes de Oca and San Juan de Ortega there was a great resting place with benches, totem poles andvarious wooden art. A place of good vibes.
It is now completely demolished: someone has used chain saws to ruin it completely. The remains are now lying to rot.
Not able to attach a photo now.
HolaSí, yo también lo he visto...
Todavía había un tipo con bebidas frías (basado en donaciones) que también mostró algunas obras de arte un poco antes de la antigua parada de descanso.
Me preguntaba cuáles podrían ser las razones detrás de la destrucción.
¿Alguien sabe?
Aneleraz, buenasHola
la razón de por qué está destrozado lo has desvelado tu.
Un hombre con cuadros de charlatanería barata..cuenta tantos cuentos que no se los cree ni él.
Lo conocemos en la zona y ha sido él.
Es capaz de ello lo conozco muy bien estuvo en el oasis, a mi también me engaño pero cuando me di cuenta de su mal comportamiento, sus mentiras y su poco respeto por los demás que a la prueba están.
Le invite a que dejara de ir al oasis y fue cuando empezó a borrar las pinturas tirar las mesas ect.
Lo volvi a levantar todas las veces que lo tiro.
este año cuando volvi lo había hecho leña. Demostró ser lo que es muy mala persona, desagradecida.. No tiene nombre.
En fin, el oasis vamos a intentar levantarlo, pero mientras este él, no podemos, porque volverá a destrozarlo.
Espero haber aclarado este tema ya que hay toda clase de respuestas a lo ocurrido y nadie se ha puesto a pensar que el máximo interesado en reventar el oasis era él.
Él motivo esta más que claro todavía tiene la cara de ponerse delante.
Un saludo a todos mis peregrinos y muchas gracias por preocuparse por este lugar tan querido por mi, ya que fui yo quien lo monto junto con mi gran amigo él difunto "Corzo". Que en paz descanse.
Via Google Translate:Hola
la razón de por qué está destrozado lo has desvelado tu.
Un hombre con cuadros de charlatanería barata..cuenta tantos cuentos que no se los cree ni él.
Lo conocemos en la zona y ha sido él.
Es capaz de ello lo conozco muy bien estuvo en el oasis, a mi también me engaño pero cuando me di cuenta de su mal comportamiento, sus mentiras y su poco respeto por los demás que a la prueba están.
Le invite a que dejara de ir al oasis y fue cuando empezó a borrar las pinturas tirar las mesas ect.
Lo volvi a levantar todas las veces que lo tiro.
este año cuando volvi lo había hecho leña. Demostró ser lo que es muy mala persona, desagradecida.. No tiene nombre.
En fin, el oasis vamos a intentar levantarlo, pero mientras este él, no podemos, porque volverá a destrozarlo.
Espero haber aclarado este tema ya que hay toda clase de respuestas a lo ocurrido y nadie se ha puesto a pensar que el máximo interesado en reventar el oasis era él.
Él motivo esta más que claro todavía tiene la cara de ponerse delante.
Un saludo a todos mis peregrinos y muchas gracias por preocuparse por este lugar tan querido por mi, ya que fui yo quien lo monto junto con mi gran amigo él difunto "Corzo". Que en paz descanse.
Aneleraz, greetings…then, from what you say, that guy is, yes, an arrogant charlatan, talker, myth-maker, who destroyed that place so loved by many pilgrims. Does he own land around there or what show? That guy has leverage with the authorities, and that's why he believes he can do whatever he wants? If it's true, how little ma_ _ _! Good luck with that matter, and be very carefulAneleraz, buenas…entonces, por lo que Ud. dice, ese tipo sí, es un prepotente charlatán, hablador, mitotero, que destruyó ese lugar tan querido por muchos peregrinos. ¿Él es dueño de terrenos por ahí o qué show? ¿Ese güey tiene palancas con los autoridades, y es por eso que él cree que puede hacer lo que le dé la gana? Si es cierto, ¡Qué poca ma_ _ _ ! Suerte con ese asunto, y mucho cuidado
For a donation to his political/personal coffers perhaps?Another recent example. Carnac in Northern France is home to many standing stones called menhirs which have stood for 7000 years. A DIY store chain obtained a permit from a local mayor and destroyed many of them to build a new store.
The story about 37 or 39 destroyed standing stones of Carnac are complete nonsense. After the story was blown up by the media including leading French media and international media who just copy-pasted a story they knew nothing about and who used misleading photos like the one in the post above, the same media contacted the mayor of Carnac a few days later and profusely apologised. It is regrettable that this vile narrative is still alive and that the mayor's integrity is still questioned on social media - 11 months after the incident and despite the facts being available online!For a donation to his political/personal coffers perhaps?Nah, that never happens…
Kathar1na, you are totally correct concerning the story about Carnac. My bad for not diving deeper into it before posting my remark.The story about 37 or 39 destroyed standing stones of Carnac are complete nonsense. After the story was blown up by the media including leading French media and international media who just copy-pasted a story they knew nothing about and who used misleading photos like the one in the post above, the same media contacted the mayor of Carnac a few days later and profusely apologised. It is regrettable that this vile narrative is still alive and that the mayor's integrity is still questioned on social media - 11 months after the incident and despite the facts being available online!
Similar is happening in this thread. All sorts of people are suspected of having destroyed the Monte des Oca site and weird reasons are brought up - without asking and listening to the local person who had created the site.
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