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- Frances; Aragones; VdlP; Madrid-Invierno; Levante
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LaurieHi, Albertagirl, your feelings just shoot right through the screen. It is sad, I agree. Maybe what comes will be better, we can always hope. One of the very sad facts I heard when walking the Aragones was that the government, when it condemned all of the agricultural lands around these towns for the new reservoir, did not bother to think that this action had in one blow rendered these towns totally unsustainable. No compensation was given for the now very devalued residences in what used to be such pretty hill towns, whose owners made a living working the fields below them. Now they are left with their homes but no livelihood. How cruel.
I thought Undues looked like it might survive, there are so many nicely redone homes there. A revival of the Camino Aragones might help quite a bit, but we'll just have to see what the flooding does to it. (your post sounds like you have learned what the new route will be, is that right? If so, could you share it?) I am really enjoying your comments, hang in there. Buen camino, Laurie
p.s. I thought the Albergue in Ruesta was showing a strong fighting spirit, determined to keep going in the face of a town falling down around it. And the real advantage was that the hospitalero's girlfriend was a GREAT cook and made us some really fine meals.
VlebeHi @Albertagirl and @peregrina2000 !
I'm closely following this interesting thread as I'll be walking the Aragones next november.
Do you know where can I get more information about this flood? When and where is it going to take place?
Should I be concerned and make different plans?
I got a bit concerned with the " state of deterioration" statement...
I hope you find some time to post, did that same route in 04 and again in 2013. I thinking of heading back next year again. Sounds like it cold. I haven't tried it in Sept/Oct. I'd be interested in what the temps are like in the Spainish side. Ruestra is lovely.I arrived in Canfranc Estacion in the late morning after a pleasant downhill walk in the late morning, with the beauty of the mountains all around. I started my Camino on the Camino d'Arles, at Olorn Ste Marie. The Vallee d'Aspe from Oloron Sta Marie to the Somport Paass was, as usual, very wet, rain all three days to the Col de Somport. I began my Camino in Oloron Ste Marie to enjoy the approach through the mountains, but. It was largely invisible in the rain and fog. From what I can tell, mountain views do not open up before the Col de Somport. I was very wet, cold, and tired by the time I got there - all uphill. The highlight of the walk up the Vallee d'Aspe was for me the night which I spent at the Monastere de Sarrance, with the welcome from the hospitaleros and the monk who dealt with guests. I was able to share common prayer and felt that that was the start of my Camino. Aside from Sarrance, I think that I might take the bus and begin my Camino at the Somport Pass, as others were doing. I stayed at Albergue Aysa and managed to get largely dried out. Today I enjoyed the walk downhill to Canfranc Estacion through the mountains in fine weather. I am staying at Albergue Rio Aragon, in a single room with bath for €22.50 pilgrim rate, getting some rest and reversing the drying out process by having half a bottle of wine with my dinner - my first on Camino.
The station in the major attraction in Canfranc Estacion and is being repaired, but is not available to casual visitors. Guided tours are offered for €3 but were booked up in advance for the weekend. A very modern looking Renfe train was parked in the station for much of the day, so I guess there is service. I like the new and rather stark church, where I spent some time, as it was open to visitors, no mass today. I go on to Jaca tomorrow. I don't know if I shall post regularly,as I don't expect to take many days of leisure.
@NorthernLightI am about 5 or 6 days behind you.
For those following, the alburgue in Canfranc is closed for the season, but open weekends.
The alburgue in Villanua is closed for holidays, apparently for a couple weeks. The hostal is open, and cheaper if you don't use booking.com.
@Jeff MayorI hope you find some time to post, did that same route in 04 and again in 2013. I thinking of heading back next year again. Sounds like it cold. I haven't tried it in Sept/Oct. I'd be interested in what the temps are like in the Spainish side. Ruestra is lovely.
I am about 5 or 6 days behind you.
For those following, the alburgue in Canfranc is closed for the season, but open weekends.
The alburgue in Villanua is closed for holidays, apparently for a couple weeks. The hostal is open, and cheaper if you don't use booking.com.
Hi Fellow Canuck! , looking forward to your end report. Sounds like you were on a great adventure. Ultreia, IngridI am at Tiebas, the only woman in an eight person dorm. One of the young men politely asked me in English, when he arrived, if he could sleep with me: indicating the top bunk, where I am ensconced on the bottom. I informed him that he can sleep wherever there is an empty bed. He appears to have changed his mind and chosen a lower. The scenery was fine today. I walked mostly high on a hillside and got to see more of the scenery all around, opening up to a view of Pamplona and the Alto de Perdon, which looks higher than I remember it. However, the route entered deep cuts in the hills, down and up all day in a somewhat tiresome way.
Tomorrow I shall be going, by way of Eunate, to Puenta la Reina and ending my adventures on the Aragones. I shall try to make some general comments which may be useful to others planning to walk the route. Buen Camino a todos.
... One of the young men politely asked me in English, when he arrived, if he could sleep with me: indicating the top bunk, where I am ensconced on the bottom. ...
AHAHAHAHAHA, trueThe joys of English as a foreign language ;-) Buen Camino, SY
And the three bottles of wine he drank might have had something to do with it. He snored loudly that night, lying on his back wth his bare legs/feet on the floor.AHAHAHAHAHA, true
@NorthernLight
To clarify, do you mean the Refugio Sargantana in Canfranc, which the CSJ Guidebook describes as "primarily an Outward Bound centre for young people, closed spring and autumn?" Or would you be referring to one of the albergues at Canfranc Estacion? I stayed at the Albergue Rio Aragon, but the Albergue Pepito Grillo was also open there when I went through. I don't know about the Albergue Juvenile mentioned in my guidebook. I got my reservation in Canfranc Estacion through the staff who work in the Oficina de Turismus in Canfranc Estacion,.who phoned to all albergues on their list. I would recommend talking to them for anyone going through in off season.
I found it very difficult getting water, but I don't generally need much. I carry water purification tablets as backup, but I never used them. Two of the Fuentes, including the one at Ruesta, have hoses attached to the taps to take all the water, so there is none for pilgrims. Carry lots and fill up when you can.I was referring to Canfranc, and yes I think it was the Sargantana. The whole village looked closed.
I've had no trouble finding beds since then and have booked nothing ahead. There were 7 of us in Arres. I think the next few days will be interesting, water source-wise.
On a positive note, the water quality problem in Izco has been fixed.
Would you know If I could startvthis path on upcoming wednesday? Did you meet other people? Do you knoe if many albergues are closed??Yes, had a great stay there and then did a long day into Puente de la Reina.
Would you know If I could startvthis path on upcoming wednesday? Did you meet other people? Do you knoe if many albergues are closed??
Usually albergues (some of them, mostly private) closes end of October. You'll be good until then.Would you know If I could startvthis path on upcoming wednesday? Did you meet other people? Do you knoe if many albergues are closed??
The only albergue I know for sure to be closed is the one in Monreal. There were always at least 5 people at night in the albierguesWould you know If I could startvthis path on upcoming wednesday? Did you meet other people? Do you knoe if many albergues are closed??
Would you know If I could startvthis path on upcoming wednesday? Did you meet other people? Do you knoe if many albergues are closed??
And one can just sleep on the albergue before that, right? This way continuing a bit longer on the next day..? So you would guess that if starting tomorrow id have people to walk with? Good news thank you!The only albergue I know for sure to be closed is the one in Monreal. There were always at least 5 people at night in the albiergues
Yes, I went from Sanguesa to Isco. The next logical stop would be Tiebas (22K). I was walking with someone that day and we made it to Puente de la Reina(41k). But that was an extraordinary day for me.And one can just sleep on the albergue before that, right? This way continuing a bit longer on the next day..? So you would guess that if starting tomorrow id have people to walk with? Good news thank you!
Arres was wonderful, a true child of San Juan Bautista at Granon. We pilgrims were shown around the village by a devoted hospitalero, who has turned an accident on the Primitivo and inability to walk into an opportunity to serve. The spirit of the place was palpable. Now, after a very hot dry walk to Artieda, I am at an Albergue whose spirit is very different - one of myriad rules enforced aggressively. I am a good girl, so I do not anticipate any problems. I shall get on with settling in. Later: they threw me out of the bar for the afternoon, so I guess I am not as good at following rules as I thought. I shall just have to find another bar.
I have heard several wonderful reports from veterans about Arrés so I am very happy to add this the list. I will be serving as a hospitalero there in the first half of June. I hope to be as helpful to the peregrines as the one you met. If anyone watching this thread has good links on Aragones, please send them. I've just been reviewing the few posts since getting confirmation of my assignment there. Keep thinking I'll trip across more general info, but it's sparse..like, I gather, the numbers of pilgrims on this section.
Buen Camino a todos! Courage! (pour les pèlerins)
Oh what a wonderful assignment, it's your lucky day. LTfit and I walked that route in 2015 and it was wonderful. https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/our-camino-aragonés-june-2015.36782/
The night in Arres was a true highlight of my camino that summer, and I had already been walking for two or three weeks by the time I got there. Our little group had a wonderful evening. Buen camino, Laurie
Beautifully put SYates...mirrors my feelings exactly. Buen CaminoFor me personal there isn't really any difference between the two as for me all beauty (nature, created by humans etc) point me to God who has given us both the intelligence to appreciate beauty on an intellectual level and the capacity to enjoy it without analysing it. Buen Camino, SY
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