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- April 2024
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Unfortunately easier said than done. We’re now in Spain. This happened in Portugal, and we saw almost no one today. There is no police department in Tuido. I’m hoping someone on here can tell me how to send what I have to authorities, because we found no info online for that particular area.Please report this to the local police.
Tuido is part of Valença municipalityUnfortunately easier said than done. We’re now in Spain. This happened in Portugal, and we saw almost no one today. There is no police department in Tuido. I’m hoping someone on here can tell me how to send what I have to authorities, because we found no info online for that particular area.
Disgusting, something is seriously wrong with these men. I am glad your daughter is OK, that just makes it worse to have a young person experience that. Really, I am on the Portuguese Coastal route right now and I have experienced such kindness from both men and women. I hate that these outliers are making such bad experiences for others. Grrrrrr!I also posted this in my live, but I want to warn others. This happened our way to Tui today, just outside of Tuído. We had just taken a short break, and my daughter suddenly noticed a walking stick, grabbed it, and started marching with it. We were then entertaining ourselves making up marching songs. Suddenly, I noticed a young guy walking towards us, and a car parked to the side. Keep in mind, we were still in the woods, but just outside of Tuído, not quite to the distillery. We gave him our normal, “Bom dia”, and continued on. He weirdly didn’t really respond.
I was just ahead of my daughter. We kept walking and I turned to say something to her, and realized he had switched directions. He was now walking behind her. My gut immediately told me that this wasn’t going to be good. I muttered just loud enough for her to hear, “Speed up and keep your stick.” I turned my head enough to see him in my periphery, and he was getting closer to her. I told her “Walk faster and keep your stick!” I looked to the side again.. and now he was not even a foot behind her! I slowed where I could grab a large rock to hit him with, and let her pass to get her behind me. There he stood, pants down… and you can guess the rest. I screamed some profanities at him. He then weirdly made a gesture of apology, then hurried away, while pulling his pants up. I managed to grab video footage of him. He turned and looked right in my camera twice.
My daughter said later that she could feel that he was right behind her and was just about to spin and hit him with her stick, just before I made my move. I am almost certain he was about to grab her.. and/or worse. I think what stopped him was her clutching that heavy, sharp stick. We were both pretty shaken up. When we came out of the woods, several local women were heading in. I explained what happened, warned them to be extremely careful, and showed them his photo. They were really grateful for the information.
We were both pretty shaken up. I’m almost certain I saw someone else post about having almost this exact same experience recently. I wonder if it’s the same guy. I’m not sure what the rules are here, but I have video and stills of him that I can post or send to the local authorities. I shudder to think what might have happened if she’d been alone.. or hadn’t had that stick. Another peregrina once told us that the Camino always provides, and this proved it to us in spades. My daughter said something just told her she needed to take the stick, then this incident happened not 10 minutes later. Be careful out there, everyone!
Thank you so much. I will do that!you were walking with your daughter and this creep still got after her?
Please do report this asap to the Police / Guardia Civíl wherever you are and let them sort out the finer print with their partners across the border.
See this thread for all the contact info:
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...ct-in-spain-dial-112-and-alertcops-app.71822/
Big hugs to you both.
Thank you so so much! We were kind of at a loss, and honestly just kind of in shock for awhile. I will email him right now and send my photos and video of this creep. As close as he came to my daughter, I’m just worried he intended to do a lot more. I’m worried now for any women walking, especially alone.Tuido is part of Valença municipality
I would report it to Valença's GNR (Guarda Nacional Republicana)
Found this info online:
GNR - Destacamento Territorial de Valença
Rua José Maria Gonçalves
Valença
4930-632 VALENÇA
Telefone: 251801010
Fax: 251825076
E-Mail: ct.vct.davln@gnr.pt
Site: http://www.gnr.pt
Yes the Camino will provide. It also provides the number to the police. 112 if necessary . That is their job. Also, keep your daughter in front where you can see her. That automatically puts you between a threat as you are able to observe her. Buen CaminoI also posted this in my live, but I want to warn others. This happened our way to Tui today, just outside of Tuído. We had just taken a short break, and my daughter suddenly noticed a walking stick, grabbed it, and started marching with it. We were then entertaining ourselves making up marching songs. Suddenly, I noticed a young guy walking towards us, and a car parked to the side. Keep in mind, we were still in the woods, but just outside of Tuído, not quite to the distillery. We gave him our normal, “Bom dia”, and continued on. He weirdly didn’t really respond.
I was just ahead of my daughter. We kept walking and I turned to say something to her, and realized he had switched directions. He was now walking behind her. My gut immediately told me that this wasn’t going to be good. I muttered just loud enough for her to hear, “Speed up and keep your stick.” I turned my head enough to see him in my periphery, and he was getting closer to her. I told her “Walk faster and keep your stick!” I looked to the side again.. and now he was not even a foot behind her! I slowed where I could grab a large rock to hit him with, and let her pass to get her behind me. There he stood, pants down… and you can guess the rest. I screamed some profanities at him. He then weirdly made a gesture of apology, then hurried away, while pulling his pants up. I managed to grab video footage of him. He turned and looked right in my camera twice.
My daughter said later that she could feel that he was right behind her and was just about to spin and hit him with her stick, just before I made my move. I am almost certain he was about to grab her.. and/or worse. I think what stopped him was her clutching that heavy, sharp stick. We were both pretty shaken up. When we came out of the woods, several local women were heading in. I explained what happened, warned them to be extremely careful, and showed them his photo. They were really grateful for the information.
We were both pretty shaken up. I’m almost certain I saw someone else post about having almost this exact same experience recently. I wonder if it’s the same guy. I’m not sure what the rules are here, but I have video and stills of him that I can post or send to the local authorities. I shudder to think what might have happened if she’d been alone.. or hadn’t had that stick. Another peregrina once told us that the Camino always provides, and this proved it to us in spades. My daughter said something just told her she needed to take the stick, then this incident happened not 10 minutes later. Be careful out there, everyone!
So sorry this happened to you.I also posted this in my live, but I want to warn others. This happened our way to Tui today, just outside of Tuído. We had just taken a short break, and my daughter suddenly noticed a walking stick, grabbed it, and started marching with it. We were then entertaining ourselves making up marching songs. Suddenly, I noticed a young guy walking towards us, and a car parked to the side. Keep in mind, we were still in the woods, but just outside of Tuído, not quite to the distillery. We gave him our normal, “Bom dia”, and continued on. He weirdly didn’t really respond.
I was just ahead of my daughter. We kept walking and I turned to say something to her, and realized he had switched directions. He was now walking behind her. My gut immediately told me that this wasn’t going to be good. I muttered just loud enough for her to hear, “Speed up and keep your stick.” I turned my head enough to see him in my periphery, and he was getting closer to her. I told her “Walk faster and keep your stick!” I looked to the side again.. and now he was not even a foot behind her! I slowed where I could grab a large rock to hit him with, and let her pass to get her behind me. There he stood, pants down… and you can guess the rest. I screamed some profanities at him. He then weirdly made a gesture of apology, then hurried away, while pulling his pants up. I managed to grab video footage of him. He turned and looked right in my camera twice.
My daughter said later that she could feel that he was right behind her and was just about to spin and hit him with her stick, just before I made my move. I am almost certain he was about to grab her.. and/or worse. I think what stopped him was her clutching that heavy, sharp stick. We were both pretty shaken up. When we came out of the woods, several local women were heading in. I explained what happened, warned them to be extremely careful, and showed them his photo. They were really grateful for the information.
We were both pretty shaken up. I’m almost certain I saw someone else post about having almost this exact same experience recently. I wonder if it’s the same guy. I’m not sure what the rules are here, but I have video and stills of him that I can post or send to the local authorities. I shudder to think what might have happened if she’d been alone.. or hadn’t had that stick. Another peregrina once told us that the Camino always provides, and this proved it to us in spades. My daughter said something just told her she needed to take the stick, then this incident happened not 10 minutes later. Be careful out there, everyone!
She’s 27, and in fantastic shape, so literally is almost always leading the way. This was probably one of the only times she was behind me. I’m usually struggling to keep up lol.Yes the Camino will provide. It also provides the number to the police. 112 if necessary . That is their job. Also, keep your daughter in front where you can see her. That automatically puts you between a threat as you are able to observe her. Buen Camino
My daughter just blew up our still of the car. Doesn’t really look like a Toyota, and we’re not certain it was his car. He didn’t go right back to it after the incident. Then again, he really couldn’t with us standing there. We can’t make out the make of the car, but it appears to be grey in color. She was able to blow up the image of the license plate as well. We’ll send that now too, but again, it may or may not be his. So sorry this happened to you as well.So sorry this happened to you.
Was it a Toyota by chance?
Please reportthe police takes it VERY serious.
Here to support as I went through something similar less than 2 weeks ago on the Camino
I hope we don’t start down this line of conversation. There are many women of a wide range of ages, myself included, who relish walking alone and have decided that the risk-reward calculus highly tips on the side of walking alone. For those who cannot comfortably accept those risks, the choices are different. I know that your comments are intended to be supportive and helpful, but I also know that many women on the forum do not appreciate this attitude.Until that happens the safest way is walk with a man.
I hope people realize that when something like this happens to you, it is a 100%. Reporting to the police may help others in the future but not the victim. I think it is about time to bite the bullet and say that you have to expect this kind thing may happen until the human behavior changes. Until that happens the safest way is walk with a man.
I don’t even know where to start with this comment haha. First off, I’ve traveled the world (45 countries at this point), without a man. I never take a tour, and plan everything so that I’m completely independent. That includes time in the Middle East and Africa. I also am in NYC about every 8 weeks, and navigate it solo from the Bronx to Brooklyn. I definitely don’t need a man lol. No woman does.I hope people realize that when something like this happens to you, it is a 100%. Reporting to the police may help others in the future but not the victim. I think it is about time to bite the bullet and say that you have to expect this kind thing may happen until the human behavior changes. Until that happens the safest way is walk with a man.
Thank you for the update!! Glad they are doing something about itUPDATE!!! The GNR reached out to me! I had sent a direct message to them on Facebook, and they confirmed that they had received my original message and that it was indeed being investigated. We sent them plenty of evidence, so he shouldn’t be too difficult to track down.
Firstly I am so pleased that you are such an independent strong woman! Kudos!! am one of those women whose husband has a faster pace. Please check your perspective. Bloody miserable? Why because you think the woman needs coddling on the way. Or miserable because she's walking with a man? I enjoy walking alone like you. How is this any different? We are all on our own caminos. Even those of us who are "together ".Secondly, out of all but 2 pilgrim couples I’ve seen on this trip, the man is walking about half of a kilometer (or more) ahead of his significant other. If she ever did have a problem, he’d be less than useless from that distance. These men don’t even turn around. Looks bloody miserable.
The majority of the ones we’ve seen both have sour, angry looks on their faces. The woman in almost every case (with some notable exceptions) is struggling with a pack that she can barely handle or a pace that she can’t keep up with, and he hasn’t a clue, and could care less. Never even turns around. He looks angry and annoyed. That’s just what I’ve seen with the exception of a few older couples, and some much younger ones. There aren’t many on the Portuguese at the present time. We’ve met some lovely couples as well. But yes… What I’ve mentioned does indeed look bloody miserable. My daughter even said to me… I would totally turn the other way and lose him if I was with that lol.Firstly I am so pleased that you are such an independent strong woman! Kudos!! am one of those women whose husband has a faster pace. Please check your perspective. Bloody miserable? Why because you think the woman needs coddling on the way. Or miserable because she's walking with a man? I enjoy walking alone like you. How is this any different? We are all on our own caminos. Even those of us who are "together ".
Really? Perhaps we should all live in a bubble where nothing bad ever happens.Until that happens the safest way is walk with a man.
Lol sometimes the Camino itself is bloody miserable. I think you make a lot of assumptions. Any men looking bloody miserable? I'm sure there are lots of women out there kicking their partners asses.The majority of the ones we’ve seen both have sour, angry looks on their faces. The woman in almost every case (with some notable exceptions) is struggling with a pack that she can barely handle or a pace that she can’t keep up with, and he hasn’t a clue, and could care less. Never even turns around. He looks angry and annoyed. That’s just what I’ve seen with the exception of a few older couples, and some much younger ones. There aren’t many on the Portuguese at the present time. We’ve met some lovely couples as well. But yes… What I’ve mentioned does indeed look bloody miserable. My daughter even said to me… I would totally turn the other way and lose him if I was with that lol.
None that we’ve seen. Again.. There are very few pilgrims on the Portugues right now. I’m just telling what I saw.Lol sometimes the Camino itself is bloody miserable. I think you make a lot of assumptions. Any men looking bloody miserable? I'm sure there are lots of women out there kicking their partners asses.
I think it is about time to bite the bullet and say that you have to expect this kind thing may happen until the human behavior changes. Until that happens the safest way is walk with a man.
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