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what is your favorite route in Portugal.
Wow ! Can’t wait to read your discoveriesThere are different ways to count and people can disagree on what constitutes a camino, how to divide caminos etc, but I personally count 10 Camin(h)os de Santiago in Portugal and I separate them into three categories:
The CP
1. Lisbon-Porto
2. Central from Porto
3. Coastal from Porto
Northern Routes
4. Português Interior
5. Torres (starts in Spain)
6. Zamorano Portugués (starts in Spain)
7. Geira e dos Arrieiros
Southern Routes
8. Nascente
9. Central
10. Raia (coming soon!)
I wrote an outline of these 10 routes here:
The Camino de Santiago in Portugal
My short answer to your question…
…is the Caminho Nascente.
Long answer to come sometime after our current CPI!
Interesting is that the Pilgrims Office only recognizes 3 caminhos . Anyway from Porto .There are different ways to count and people can disagree on what constitutes a camino, how to divide caminos etc, but I personally count 10 Camin(h)os de Santiago in Portugal and I separate them into three categories:
The CP
1. Lisbon-Porto
2. Central from Porto
3. Coastal from Porto
Northern Routes
4. Português Interior
5. Torres (starts in Spain)
6. Zamorano Portugués (starts in Spain)
7. Geira e dos Arrieiros
Southern Routes
8. Nascente
9. Central
10. Raia (coming soon!)
I wrote an outline of these 10 routes here:
The Camino de Santiago in Portugal
My short answer to your question…
…is the Caminho Nascente.
Long answer to come sometime after our current CPI!
For the Certificate of Distance there is no difference in kilometers between the so called senda litoral and the coastal.jungleboy, I think you can add the Senda Litoral to your CP category. Although they have common stages, the Senda stays on the coast while the Coastal often detours inland for the day's walk.
what is your favorite route in Portugal.
an explanation from my point of view.
There are nine subforums about the Caminho Português.
you can see at the threads, posts, comments that starting in Porto is the most popular one .
Fact is and I learned this when I worked as volunteer at the Pilgrims Office that there are 4 recognized caminhos, starting in Porto
1 the caminho central (Porto- Vilarinho- Barcelos —Valença to Santiago). Official 240 kms
2 the caminho pela costa ,the coastal ( Porto -Vila do Conde -Caminha-Baiona to Santiago ) 280 kms
3 the combination of the coast and the central (Porto to Vila do Conde - Barcelos -Valença to Santiago or
Porto to Caminha -Vila Nova de Cerveira to Valença) 260 kms
4 Caminho de Braga/ leading to Ponte de Lima by a detour to Braga to Santiago. I do not know the distance you walk yet.
Fact is also that no other caminho has so many variations such as the Caminho Português
There is one camino Frances. There is one camino del Norte or one Via de la Plata etc.
But you have 9 possibilities to get from Portugal to Santiago
I did it 5 times
my favorite one should start in Lisbon , and when I should do it again, I should start at the Igreja de Santiago and walk to the Oriente trainstation at the Parque das Naçôes and take the train to Azambuja and walk to Porto .
there I should take the metro to Vilar do Pinheiro and continue the central route to São Pedro de Rates and Barcelos and Caldas de Reis to Santiago.
The coastal I have done. I did the full coastal via Caminha and Baiona
I did both combinations with the central (Vila do Conde to São Pedro de Rates and Caminha to Valença
But I am following @jungleboy & Co right now on his very interesting trail on the Caminho Interior and would like to walk that one once ( Inshallah because the saw has to go into my knee soon) so hope to recover soon and can do that Portuguese caminho too
True, it may not be one of the 4 recognized Caminos but it is certainly a beautiful possibility and a different walk staying seaside instead of going inland!For the Certificate of Distance there is no difference in kilometers between the so called senda litoral and the coastal.
one leads through the hills almost parallel to and about 1 km from the beaches and the other one follows the beaches (so called Beira Mar in Portuguese)
Beginning and ending of both are in the same places.
At the Pilgrims Office they count it as the Coastal
Because you walk along a very busy road most of je the time and industrial areas .Why not start from lisbon to azambuja?
Historical digression from the topic:My short answer to your question…
…is the Caminho Nascente.
Long answer to come sometime after our current CPI!
That is true but does not add anything the the content “ coastal. Anyway not for the Pilgrims Office.True, it may not be one of the 4 recognized Caminos but it is certainly a beautiful possibility and a different walk staying seaside instead of going inland!
To answer your question in a very narrow context. I have done 4 Caminos north of Porto ( 1 Coastal and 3 Centrals...I think I've already answered the question) I have also walked some of the path north of Farowhat is your favorite route in Portugal.
an explanation from my point of view.
There are nine subforums about the Caminho Português.
you can see at the threads, posts, comments that starting in Porto is the most popular one .
Fact is and I learned this when I worked as volunteer at the Pilgrims Office that there are 4 recognized caminhos, starting in Porto
1 the caminho central (Porto- Vilarinho- Barcelos —Valença to Santiago). Official 240 kms
2 the caminho pela costa ,the coastal ( Porto -Vila do Conde -Caminha-Baiona to Santiago ) 280 kms
3 the combination of the coast and the central (Porto to Vila do Conde - Barcelos -Valença to Santiago or
Porto to Caminha -Vila Nova de Cerveira to Valença) 260 kms
4 Caminho de Braga/ leading to Ponte de Lima by a detour to Braga to Santiago. I do not know the distance you walk yet.
Fact is also that no other caminho has so many variations such as the Caminho Português
There is one camino Frances. There is one camino del Norte or one Via de la Plata etc.
But you have 9 possibilities to get from Portugal to Santiago
I did it 5 times
my favorite one should start in Lisbon , and when I should do it again, I should start at the Igreja de Santiago and walk to the Oriente trainstation at the Parque das Naçôes and take the train to Azambuja and walk to Porto .
there I should take the metro to Vilar do Pinheiro and continue the central route to São Pedro de Rates and Barcelos and Caldas de Reis to Santiago.
The coastal I have done. I did the full coastal via Caminha and Baiona
I did both combinations with the central (Vila do Conde to São Pedro de Rates and Caminha to Valença
But I am following @jungleboy & Co right now on his very interesting trail on the Caminho Interior and would like to walk that one once ( Inshallah because the saw has to go into my knee soon) so hope to recover soon and can do that Portuguese caminho too
Thanks for your feedbackTo answer your question in a very narrow context. I have done 4 Caminos north of Porto ( 1 Coastal and 3 Centrals...I think I've already answered the question) I have also walked some of the path north of Faro
I preferred the Central for a number of reasons:
1) I found it more traditional and authentic
2) I'm more of an inland / mountain person than a coastal person.
3) I liked the fact that the Central was one definitive route as opposed to the Coastal where you could be on the traditional Coastal or The Senda Litoral
4) Related to 3 I found there was a greater sense of camaraderie / shared experience between everyone and you were more likely to bump into the same people more often ( as opposed to the 2 route coastal where I found people split )
5) While the likes of Caminha and Baiona are beautiful towns I got more out of Ponte de Lima and Tui
I know people will differ on this and I see many opinions how people love the Coastal and I can appreciate that ( I will give the Coastal another chance at some stage ). Strongly influenced by Jungle Boy / Nick (who has done so much to inform people on the many routes) I look forward to doing the Interior at some stage which looks so interesting and beautiful.
I have also walked sections in the Algarve north of Loule, which were nice but which I considered just a hike.
I know people will have different views but I hope this answers your question from my personal perspective.
Yes, you could add it but I guess I just consider it pretty much the same as the coastal for classification purposes, although I haven’t actually walked either. The Camiño Miñoto Ribeiro might also be in the list but it’s similar to the Geira and the rivalry between them is a long story!jungleboy, I think you can add the Senda Litoral to your CP category. Although they have common stages, the Senda stays on the coast while the Coastal often detours inland for the day's walk.
Very interesting! From Crato it’s about 55km north to the Tejo on the Nascente. Obviously at some point the route needs to turn northwest towards Santiago, so that could just as easily be south of the Tejo as north if it.Historical digression from the topic:
I am convinced, based on anecdotal observation in various small towns, that there once was a variant that cut northwest from Crato area towards the Tejo, with a possible crossing at Abrantes, Constancia or Tancos in our municipality, and then a walk along the north side of the Tejo towards Atalaia where there is a very significant church, just renovated.
Yes it does. The Tejo is spectacular here at the Portas de Ródão, but it’s also very wide so bridging it at this point would have been challenging in pre-modern times.That routing would in some ways be a more comfortable walk than crossing the Tejo further east, where the canyon starts, and where the current Nascent crosses a 20th-century bridge, I believe.
Tomorrow is another day.All these responses are a bit much for my tired self to deal with after 25km on the CPI today! I’ll try to reply tomorrow.
the Dutch are world famous with their waterworks constructionsYes, you could add it but I guess I just consider it pretty much the same as the coastal for classification purposes, although I haven’t actually walked either. The Camiño Miñoto Ribeiro might also be in the list but it’s similar to the Geira and the rivalry between them is a long story!
Very interesting! From Crato it’s about 55km north to the Tejo on the Nascente. Obviously at some point the route needs to turn northwest towards Santiago, so that could just as easily be south of the Tejo as north if it.
Yes it does. The Tejo is spectacular here at the Portas de Ródão, but it’s also very wide so bridging it at this point would have been challenging in pre-modern times.
To give some visual context to this, there is a good map posted on the walls of the xunta albergues on the Sanabrés that shows most of these routes.I personally count 10 Camin(h)os de Santiago in Portugal and I separate them into three categories:
The CP
1. Lisbon-Porto
2. Central from Porto
3. Coastal from Porto
Northern Routes
4. Português Interior
5. Torres (starts in Spain)
6. Zamorano Portugués (starts in Spain)
7. Geira e dos Arrieiros
Southern Routes
8. Nascente
9. Central
10. Raia (coming soon!)
I wrote an outline of these 10 routes here:
The Camino de Santiago in Portugal
meanwhile you are the concious of the caminho PortuguêsTo give some visual context to this, there is a good map posted on the walls of the xunta albergues on the Sanabrés that shows most of these routes.
Considering the CP from Lisbon and then Central from Porto as one route, they show nine routes in Portugal, with two that I didn’t list and vice-versa. The two extras they have are the Senda Littoral and the Braga route (Porto - Ponte de Lima). The two they are missing are the Geira and the Raia (which admittedly has not actually been launched yet).
The Portuguese routes on the map are:
PT01 - CP from Lisbon incl central from Porto.
PT02 - CPI
PT03 - Coastal
PT04 - Senda Littoral
PT05 - Braga route
PT06 - Torres
PT07 - Zamorano
PT08 - Central Faro-Santarém
PT09 - Nascente
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