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Had that been possible I would have done. On turning quite a sharp corner I quite literally missed the woman by only a few inches. She was in the middle of a fairly narrow path. When it is necessary to take several steps to the side in order to avoid a collision it is pointless to pretend that you have not noticed someone.You should have practised ‘custody of the eyes.’ Not looked, not seen!!
Yes, I realize that this incident took you completely by surprise and it would have been hard to pretend you had not seen the woman, especially when you must have practically tripped on her. However, I guess I was speaking figuratively when I said, ‘Don’t look, don’t see.’ To me, in this case, ‘custody of the eyes’ means more like ‘don’t see what you are not meant to see.’ Hard to do in this case, I agree, but something to keep in mind for these instances in the future, so the other person could ‘save face.’Had that been possible I would have done. On turning quite a sharp corner I quite literally missed the woman by only a few inches. She was in the middle of a fairly narrow path. When it is necessary to take several steps to the side in order to avoid a collision it is pointless to pretend that you have not noticed someone.
Yes, I realize that this incident took you completely by surprise and it would have been hard to pretend you had not seen the woman, especially when you must have practically tripped on her. However, I guess I was speaking figuratively when I said, ‘Don’t look, don’t see.’ To me, in this case, ‘custody of the eyes’ means more like ‘don’t see what you are not meant to see.’ Hard to do in this case, I agree, but something to keep in mind for these instances in the future, so the other person could ‘save face.’
I’m sure someone posted a while back about just such an incident; someone had seen a woman in a compromising position, she knew she had been seen, yet he continued as though he had not seen her. He said that later in the day he met up with the woman along the route and they ended up having a wonderful discussion about something or the other, as though the previous incident had never occurred. That sure beats the awful scowl you said you got.
You are one lucky guy to have such a wonderful wife with a XXX bladderThe number of times my wife would tell me to get a coffee/wine etc... because she had to pee! I would walk up to the bar and she would run to the bathroom. These people are running a business to cater to our needs. At the end of the day they needs profits. Simple as that.
There used to be an area called Parson's Pleasure on the River Cherwell in Oxford where men could bathe and sunbathe naked. Wikipedia gives this quite famous story: "a number of dons were sunbathing naked at Parson's Pleasure when a female student floated by in a punt. All but one of the startled dons covered their genitals—Maurice Bowra placed a flannel over his head instead. When asked why he had done so, he replied, "I don’t know about you, gentlemen, but in Oxford, I, at least, am known by my face."A Spanish pilgrim gave me good advice when we were on an endless stretch into San Pedro de Rozados and there were no bushes, no trees, but cars whizzing by, and my bladder was bursting — it’s more important to have your head covered than your bottom, no one will ever recognize you with your head covered.
The thread originator has not returned to the Forum since posting, so it may be time to stop piling on. It is clear by now that Members generally understand the commercial nature of bars and restaurants! Any solution to the problem of inadequate restrooms lies in ideas/action by someone other than bar owners providing free facilities.
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I always find it quite curious that someone would post then never return to read the reactions. Why bother?
A Spanish pilgrim gave me good advice when we were on an endless stretch into San Pedro de Rozados and there were no bushes, no trees, but cars whizzing by, and my bladder was bursting — it’s more important to have your head covered than your bottom, no one will ever recognize you with your head covered.
Yeah, well I found it offensive to step over all the toilet paper that WOMEN leave along the trail. To me, that is more offensive and mind boggling than a puddle that will disappear.
They make an extremely good job of keeping track. I dont know how they do it but they always find the right pilgrim with the right order. I moved table last time as I spotted some friends at another and they still found meWith the crowds there, they never could keep track of open tabs. The pay-when-you-leave is more for "normal" bars!
Were you still dripping water and river weeds at the time? Might make it easierThey make an extremely good job of keeping track. I dont know how they do it but they always find the right pilgrim with the right order. I moved table last time as I spotted some friends at another and they still found me
Not just women.
As a male, I find it offensive to often see men, possibly deaf or blind, peeing openly while on the trail.
They must be deaf or blind because none have responded to my snorting like a pig or pretending to be a dog weeing on a tree or post as I walk by them. Perhaps this is because they know they are disrespectful in their act just as I am in my act.
Surely they were taught during their childhood to go behind a tree or somewhere discrete when the need arises. Surely, that is common in all cultures?
Did not get that far last time. Water and river reeds were too much so went home from BurgosWere you still dripping water and river weeds at the time? Might make it easier
An ancient oral story about a mule skinner who used to take his wagon and mules along a fairly busy road parallel to Lake Huron in Ontario. He was seen to be crouched in a ditch doing the necessary with his face to the ditch and his bottom to the road. When asked why he chose that position, he replied, "Well, most of you have seen my face but few have enjoyed the view of my bottom."And while in a similar situation when visiting the sparse Canadian Arctic, it was suggested to me that I find a tree to hide my face, as I would not find one to hide my bottom.
A Spanish pilgrim gave me good advice when we were on an endless stretch into San Pedro de Rozados and there were no bushes, no trees, but cars whizzing by, and my bladder was bursting — it’s more important to have your head covered than your bottom, no one will ever recognize you with your head covered.
Buy something! if you are going to use the facilities in a cafe. Basic courtesy.There's a bar just at the end of the famous Puente de Orbigo, bar restaurante Don Suero de Quiñones, that refused to let me use the restroom unless I was a customer. I think that a place that lacks the minimum of hospitality to pilgrims should NOT profit from them. I would not give my business to such a place. What do you think?
From my previous forum incarnation, I miss Falcon's huge Camino knowledge and particular brand of dry wit.Some of the names that jump out at me....Icacos, Kinky, Theatregal, Jsalt, the infamous "deleted member", and several others.
They were valuable members.
Much has changed here.
memories of veteran forum members who no longer post here.
Three of these 4 still post occasionally, two of them in the past month.Some of the names that jump out at me....Icacos, Kinky, Theatregal, Jsalt,
Thank you Grayland - I'm still here! Just quieterSome of the names that jump out at me....Icacos, Kinky, Theatregal, Jsalt, the infamous "deleted member", and several others.
They were valuable members.
Much has changed here.
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