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Can we take our back packs and poles on the plane? In case we need to check them what is the best way to do it?
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Backpack, yes; trekking poles, unknown. The rules prohibit them generally, so they may be confiscated. You can check them in hold baggage.Can we take our back packs and poles on the plane?
I have carried my poles in inside my pack every year since 2009.
Rubber tips on. Often pulled apart into sections so they fit better.
Usually have a tube that could be used to check them if stopped.
Never been questioned.
I put my pack cover on with a belt around it to keep it on. This makes it look very much like a duffle bag.
Flying home I have always checked my pack as I really don't care if it arrives with me or not.
I carried mine on from North America to Madrid. The poles had to be covered (I used a yoga bag) and the pack was under 22lbs. no problem on the way home either.Can we take our back packs and poles on the plane? In case we need to check them what is the best way to do it?
I was afraid to buying them because I did not want them to be taken away on my flight! I guess I can try to take them.Hi, Interpreter, welcome to the forum. Grayland and I are the hiking-poles-on-the-plane proponents, we always say the same thing. But first, one little clarification, Grayland and I are from the US, and different countries have different rules. So if you're not from the US, don't pay any attention to us. Our experiences in the US have been consistent -- we have successfully carried our poles on the plane for many years and have never had a problem. Grayland has his inside his pack, I have mine inside a duffel bag.
I think, though of course he can correct me, that when Falcon says that it's "unknown" whether you can carry on poles in the US, what he means is that the regulations themselves are ambiguous. The regulations say you can carry on a "walking aid" but you can't carry on "ski poles." They say nothing about hiking poles. But I don't think I've ever heard anyone from the US say that they were unable to bring their poles through US security.
Buen camino, Laurie
It is a risk!Well you don't say where you're flying from??? We never had a problem ( flying from Costa Rica) until 2013, when we were stopped at the luggage control and we're not allowed to carry them in our packs, even although they had been dismantled. Adriaan returned to the main check in area and had them wrapped up in that plastic stuff they offer to supposedly protect your suitcase, or whatever.
He then checked them in.
Returning from Santiago, we have never been allowed to take them on board. Never. You should see how many confiscated poles are there in the luggage control area!
Personally, I would never risk checking in my pack on the outward journey. If I loose my poles, that's one thing, but to be held upbecause my pack hasn't arrived, well that's another matter.
Thank you leaving from USA.I will take them, first I have to purchase them lolActually there is no risk to anyone "taking them".
In the very unlikely event that you were denied taking them on-board..you can go back and check them. Just go a bit early if you are worried.
You can buy some in SJPdP or Pamplona.Thank you leaving from USA.I will take them, first I have to purchase them lol
If I can buy some in SJPDP it will be great! I need them for the first day. I will try to bring my backpack as a carry on.You can buy some in SJPdP or Pamplona.
Definitely try to carry-on your backpack. It's just way easier that way and there's that old piece of mind bit knowing you have the pack with you. Also you can purchase soap and toothpaste and any other liquid toiletries when you get to SJPdP. Stuff that may be restricted in carry-on's.If I can buy some in SJPDP it will be great! I need them for the first day. I will try to bring my backpack as a carry on.
Thank you Mark Lee
Thank you. I have a hiking staff in sections and put it in my pack. I was going to take it out before I go through security, until I read this! Guess I will leave it in!I have carried my poles in inside my pack every year since 2009.
Rubber tips on. Often pulled apart into sections so they fit better.
Usually have a tube that could be used to check them if stopped.
Never been questioned.
I put my pack cover on with a belt around it to keep it on. This makes it look very much like a duffle bag.
Flying home I have always checked my pack as I really don't care if it arrives with me or not.
Thank you Mark Lee. I do have a question I'm schedule to arrive to Paris airport at 0930, I purchase a local plane ticket,Easy Jet, that leaves to Biarritz at 11:AM, but closes the gate at 1030:AM Terminal 2D. I'm a bit worry not to make on time, can you tell me what you think? Also I could not figure out once I get to Biarritz airport if the train or bus to SPDP is easy to get. I looked at the info they have in a treat, not easy to understand. Thank youDefinitely try to carry-on your backpack. It's just way easier that way and there's that old piece of mind bit knowing you have the pack with you. Also you can purchase soap and toothpaste and any other liquid toiletries when you get to SJPdP. Stuff that may be restricted in carry-on's.
That appears tight for an international to domestic connection at a large airport. My experience with this is that insurers I have used will not cover missed connections if you leave less than about six hours between flights. I guess that covers them for any inbound delays and the time it takes to get through immigration and customs, particularly at busy times of the day. I generally plan on it taking two hours to get through the entry formalities, and I am grateful if it takes less, but that also varies from airport to airport. It is a few years since I travelled through CDG, but I don't recall the process being that slick that you would make this connection, noting that I also travelled with checked bags. Others with recent experience of only carrying carry-on luggage might be able to give you more up to date information on how tight your timings are.Thank you Mark Lee. I do have a question I'm schedule to arrive to Paris airport at 0930, I purchase a local plain ticket,Easy Jet, that leaves to Biarritz at 11:AM, but closes the gate at 1030:AM Terminal 2D. I'm a bit worry not to make on time, can you tell me what you think? Also I could not figure out once I get to Biarritz airport if the train or bus to SPDP is easy to get. I looked at the info they have in a treat, not easy to understand. Thank you
Thank you Mark Lee. I do have a question I'm schedule to arrive to Paris airport at 0930, I purchase a local plain ticket,Easy Jet, that leaves to Biarritz at 11:AM, but closes the gate at 1030:AM Terminal 2D. I'm a bit worry not to make on time, can you tell me what you think? Also I could not figure out once I get to Biarritz airport if the train or bus to SPDP is easy to get. I looked at the info they have in a treat, not easy to understand. Thank you
If your flight arrives on time you have a prayer to make your connection but don't waste any time getting to your gate, don't get caught up in any lines trying to change terminals to get to your next gate. The immigration process is a lot smoother these day but if you check your bag you won't make it to the next terminal, so don't check it!Thank you Mark Lee. I do have a question I'm schedule to arrive to Paris airport at 0930, I purchase a local plain ticket,Easy Jet, that leaves to Biarritz at 11:AM, but closes the gate at 1030:AM Terminal 2D. I'm a bit worry not to make on time, can you tell me what you think? Also I could not figure out once I get to Biarritz airport if the train or bus to SPDP is easy to get. I looked at the info they have in a treat, not easy to understand. Thank you
Thank you. I have a hiking staff in sections and put it in my pack. I was going to take it out before I go through security, until I read this! Guess I will leave it in!
Hmmm, I think that the national air safety regulators have a much broader remit to ensure that air travel is safe, including but not limited to weapons. Much of what is banned is about risks to aircraft safety generally, not passenger safety alone.Remember that the TSA "should" only be looking for something that appears to be a weapon.
Hi, Interpreter, welcome to the forum. Grayland and I are the hiking-poles-on-the-plane proponents, we always say the same thing. But first, one little clarification, Grayland and I are from the US, and different countries have different rules. So if you're not from the US, don't pay any attention to us. Our experiences in the US have been consistent -- we have successfully carried our poles on the plane for many years and have never had a problem. Grayland has his inside his pack, I have mine inside a duffel bag.
I think, though of course he can correct me, that when Falcon says that it's "unknown" whether you can carry on poles in the US, what he means is that the regulations themselves are ambiguous. The regulations say you can carry on a "walking aid" but you can't carry on "ski poles." They say nothing about hiking poles. But I don't think I've ever heard anyone from the US say that they were unable to bring their poles through US security.
Buen camino, Laurie
The restrictions are imposed by respective national air safety authorities, not by the airlines themselves, although they may also have rules about cabin baggage that preclude poles.We are from the US but will be flying European airlines Are Lingus and RyanAir, so we believe there will be restrictions.
Hmmm, I think that the national air safety regulators have a much broader remit to ensure that air travel is safe, including but not limited to weapons. Much of what is banned is about risks to aircraft safety generally, not passenger safety alone.
That said, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that, in the US at least, the application of the ban by security staff varies widely. It seems that the only certainty is that there is a consistent standard at Santiago airport, and that is strict application of the rule.
I am from Canada and took my poles with me in my carry on back pack to all my Camino trips at Europe without much issue. I flew Air Canada and never have any issue with them about the poles. Each airline and airport authority would have their set of rules and guidelines, so check with your airline first. My walking poles are always fold up, neatly tugged inside of my back pack. Because my back pack is small, the top end of the poles is poking outside of the back pack. Usually I would wrap that part up with a soft cloth bag then tape them together with tape. On the way home after the Camino, I make sure the handle part of the poles is poking outside not the pointy tip part so security or airline people know that is a pair of walking pole. Always do carry on. Buen Camino!Anyone taken poles in their carry-on from a Canadian airport?
You might be right, and I have not been meticulous about keeping track of whether poles were prevented from being carried on were about US airports.I have never heard of anyone who was unable to carry hiking poles through security in any airport in the USA.
Thank you, Yes I have asked a lot of questions,Sorry, I will right the information down.If your flight arrives on time you have a prayer to make your connection but don't waste any time getting to your gate, don't get caught up in any lines trying to change terminals to get to your next gate. The immigration process is a lot smoother these day but if you check your bag you won't make it to the next terminal, so don't check it!
Once you are at CDG just keep asking lots of questions about the directions to your next gate.
You have asked lots of questions on this forum and been given many good answers, keep notes it will save you lots of angst.
Once you arrive at the Biarritz airport there is city bus from the airport to the the Bayonne train station. At the train station you can buy a ticket to SJPdP, as of several days ago that trip is now on a bus several times a day. The schedule is going to depend on your arrival time.
Yes, like everyone else has said that is a tight schedule. Definitely don't check-in your backpack, carry it on and beeline it to your gate when you arrive.Thank you Mark Lee. I do have a question I'm schedule to arrive to Paris airport at 0930, I purchase a local plane ticket,Easy Jet, that leaves to Biarritz at 11:AM, but closes the gate at 1030:AM Terminal 2D. I'm a bit worry not to make on time, can you tell me what you think? Also I could not figure out once I get to Biarritz airport if the train or bus to SPDP is easy to get. I looked at the info they have in a treat, not easy to understand. Thank you
No checking items just my backpack. Thank youHi, Yolanda,
I agree with Doug that this is a very tight connection. All the more reason not to check anything. I have made a connection at Heathrow in 20 minutes, but I have also missed a connection in Madrid with two hours between flights. It just depends on luck and timing, so I wish you the best.
I know it's too late for you to do anything about this, but I would urge others to consider buying the international and national plane tickets as one ticket. If the flight from Paris were on your international ticket, it would not be a worry -- if you missed the flight, the airlines would put you on the next flight. If you miss this Easy Jet flight, unless the agent is feeling generous, you will have to buy another ticket for the next flight. I am usually surprised at how little it costs to add on the cost of a domestic flight to my international ticket -- you have to do a little more data entry, but if you use the "multi city" option on most search engines, you can customize it to allow arrival, say in Pamplona, and departure from Santiago. And then any delays are not my problem -- one less thing to worry about. Buen camino, Laurie
Yes, he did in details. Thank youYes, like everyone else has said that is a tight schedule. Definitely don't check-in your backpack, carry it on and beeline it to your gate when you arrive.
As far as getting to SJPdP from Biarritz, it looks like Don has answered your question.
cheers
Thank you!That appears tight for an international to domestic connection at a large airport. My experience with this is that insurers I have used will not cover missed connections if you leave less than about six hours between flights. I guess that covers them for any inbound delays and the time it takes to get through immigration and customs, particularly at busy times of the day. I generally plan on it taking two hours to get through the entry formalities, and I am grateful if it takes less, but that also varies from airport to airport. It is a few years since I travelled through CDG, but I don't recall the process being that slick that you would make this connection, noting that I also travelled with checked bags. Others with recent experience of only carrying carry-on luggage might be able to give you more up to date information on how tight your timings are.
Here's a link to the Paris CDG airport. It has terminal maps and information.Yes, he did in details. Thank you
Hi Mark, thanks for the URL. Just like to ask anyone who has taken easyJet from CDG to Biarritz. The ticket says Terminal 2D, but the map indicates Terminal 2B. Anybody able to clarify? ThanksHere's a link to the Paris CDG airport. It has terminal maps and information.
http://paris-cdg.worldairportguides.com/terminal-maps-info.php
Thank you for taking the time to post this information!Ryanair (and also) Easyjet seem to have probited the carrying of poles as cabin baggage.
From Ryanair website:
"8.10 PROHIBITED ARTICLES
8.10.1 Passengers are not permitted to carry the following articles in airport security restricted areas and the cabin of an aircraft:
8.10.1.1 Guns, Firearms & Weapons; any object capable, or appearing capable, of discharging a projectile or causing injury, including all firearms (pistols, revolvers, rifles, shotguns, etc.) Replica and imitation firearms, Component parts of firearms (excluding telescopic sighting devices & sights), air pistols, rifles and pellet guns. Signal flare pistols, Starter pistols, Toy guns of all types, compressed air and CO2 guns such as pistols, pellet guns, rifles,ball bearing guns, industrial bolt and nail guns, cross bows, catapults, harpoon and spear guns, Animal humane killers, stun or shocking devices, e.g. stun guns, tasers, stun batons,cattle prods, ballistic conducted energy weapons (laser), lighters shaped like a firearm.
8.10.1.2 Pointed/edged Weapons & Sharp Objects; pointed or bladed articles capable of causing injury, including axes & hatchets, cleavers, arrows and darts, crampons (grappling iron, hooked bar of iron, or plate with iron spikes used in mountaineering), harpoons & spears, ice axes & ice picks, ice skates, knives with blades of more than 6 cms including lockable or flick knives, ceremonial, religious and hunting knives, made of metal or any other material strong enough to be used as a potential weapon, meat cleavers, machetes, open razors and blades (excluding safety or disposable razors with blades enclosed in cartridge), sabres, swords and swordsticks, scalpels, scissors with blades more than 6 cms as measured from the fulcrum, ski and walking/hiking poles, throwing stars, tradesman's tools with a blade or a shaft of more than 6 cms that have the potential to be used as a pointed or edged weapon, e.g. drills and drill bits, box cutters, utility knives, all saws, screwdrivers, chisels, crowbars, hammers, pliers, wrenches/spanners, blow torches."
I'm flying British Air to Madrid…... then on to St. Jean to purchase poles and poncho there.No problem with poles in bag with Air Canada.