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Hi SherrieCan someone explain why two stamps are required in one's credencial for the final 100 kms of the Camino? Many thanks!
Thank you for the additional information. I should say that I have no objections to collecting two stamps in the final 100kms. I just wanted to know the reason behind it. I look forward to each and every stamp that goes into my credencial.Hi Sherrie
The "why" is because it's stated on the credenciale (pilgrim's passport) and specified here on the Pilgrim's Office website: http://peregrinossantiago.es/eng/pilgrimage/the-credencial/
As for how much importance is placed on checking for two daily stamps by the Pilgrim's Office when you get to Santiago (especially if you have clearly walked much further than the last 100km), that's a different matter and has been the subject of much discussion on this Forum! If you search for "two stamps" in the search box above you will find some of the previous debate on the issue.
Personally I found it fascinating seeing the different (sometimes quite lovely) stamps that just about every bar, church, hotel and albergue have along the way, so collecting extra in the last 100km was more fun than a chore!
Buen Camino!
Doesn't make much sense and i doubt it deters those 'evil cheaters'Can someone explain why two stamps are required in one's credencial for the final 100 kms of the Camino? Many thanks!
Doesn't make much sense and i doubt it deters those 'evil cheaters'
Hi, you are so wright, I found the credential more" important" at the time than the Compostela. Because you can't sleep anywhere with out it. I framed the Compostela's from my wife's Camino in 2013 and mine from this year in the hal in our home. These are the only two the other ones are lying in a drawer somewhere in th house.I just looked at my Credenciale from 2013, picked up in SJPP, and it doesn't have anything about two stamps, though I did hear about that as I got closer to Sarria. When I asked my hospitalero in Portomarin about it, she said, "You have walked from SJPP. No one will think you cheated." But it must have become a firm requirement at this point, since many of you have mentioned that it is printed on the credenciale. And as an aside, when I arrived in Santiago de Compostela and got my certificate, several other people I met along the way went with me to celebrate our certificates, and all of us realized that the Compostela was not the most important document for any of us. It was, after all, our beautiful, bedraggled pilgrim's passports, with all the wonderful stamps, that is most precious. That is true two years later, now, as I prepare to walk the Norte at the end of the month. I will be curious to see whether the credenciale I get in Irun has the requirement printed on it. But I will attempt to get two stamps a day anyway. Last time, I had to buy another credencial in Barbadelos, just past Sarria, since my first SJPP one was full!
We were adding to the date on the sello at San Anton "AUTOBUS"I don't know if it deters all of them, but I have had tour operators complain to me that they were no longer able to just arrange for the stamps in the evening, and were not able to manage a second stamp for their bus customers. At least one of them now prints their own documents and certificates of pilgrimage.
Tour operator pilgrims have their own place at the pilgrims' office in SdC, so they no longer bother the non-tour pilgrims. So... If they want to bus and stamp... That's their problem, I really do not see what the problem is for anyone else. To my knowledge, even if you do not walk the Camino, just by visiting the Cathedral and doing the rites you are still granted partial indulgence, assuming you are Catholic.I don't know if it deters all of them, but I have had tour operators complain to me that they were no longer able to just arrange for the stamps in the evening, and were not able to manage a second stamp for their bus customers. At least one of them now prints their own documents and certificates of pilgrimage.
Tour operator pilgrims have their own place at the pilgrims' office in SdC, so they no longer bother the non-tour pilgrims. So... If they want to bus and stamp... That's their problem, I really do not see what the problem is for anyone else. To my knowledge, even if you do not walk the Camino, just by visiting the Cathedral and doing the rites you are still granted partial indulgence, assuming you are Catholic.
They must be furious! Talk about ruining someone's credencial.We were adding to the date on the sello at San Anton "AUTOBUS"
The secong office is not just for tour operators but for any groups, commercially organised or not.Tour operator pilgrims have their own place at the pilgrims' office in SdC, so they no longer bother the non-tour pilgrims. So... If they want to bus and stamp... That's their problem, I really do not see what the problem is for anyone else. To my knowledge, even if you do not walk the Camino, just by visiting the Cathedral and doing the rites you are still granted partial indulgence, assuming you are Catholic.
My point is that it comes down to the value you personally give something. It would be interesting to know when and why did the Catholic Church start awarding Compostelas to non-Catholics ('spiritual reasons are very vague) or indeed, why do non-Catholics even want a Compostela@jefferyonthecamino - I'm not Catholic, but I think an indulgence, or partial indulgence, is quite different to a compostela.
(1) According to Javier Martin (member of AMIGOS and this forum) the credencial as we know it was not a product of the cathedral and had nothing to do with the church or the Compostela, even though they print and distribute it.
The Credencial del Peregrino was adopted at the first international AMIGOS congress in Jaca in 1987 and was the idea of that congress and Don Elias Valina. Besides being a passport for pilgrims it WAS also meant to be a memento of a pilgrims walk on the Camino. “LA CREDENCIAL. COMO RECUERDO CUANDO LA PEREGRINACION FINALIZA" (THE CREDENTIAL- AS A REMINDER FOR WHEN THE PILGRIMAGE ENDS.)
In the 1950's a credential was issued to people who followed the road routes to Santiago. They had it stamped at a number of places along the road and were given a diploma when they arrived.
(2) The Compostela dates from the 14th century. After the decline in pilgrimages from the 15th century, the issue of a certificate stopped for a few centuries, was revived in the 18th century and then stopped again at the end of the 19th century.
Many people confuse it with an Indulgence (for the remission of sins and time spent in purgatory) which is given to Catholic pilgrims only who comply with the requirements of visiting the cathedral, reciting a prayer, such as the Creed or Lord's prayer, praying for His Holiness the Pope; attending mass and receiving the Sacraments of confession. Millions of Catholic pilgrims to the tomb of St James in Santiago still earn the indulgence, especially in holy years, but they don't have to walk there.
Perhaps the church should have stuck to handing out indulgences to all Catholic pilgrims and offering a certificate of welcome to all other pilgrims, tourists and tourist-pilgrims - as they now give to any pilgrim that visits Jerusalem.
I received my indulgence in Astorga at the chocolate museum!!! Not to be missed and just what a pilgrim needs before heading into the mountains!
@jefferyonthecamino - I'm not Catholic, but I think an indulgence, or partial indulgence, is quite different to a compostela.
I think as long as you walk much further than the last 100km they don't require it. I walked from roncesvalles and never attempted to get too stamps, ever. I decided I only needed one stamp from each location I stayed: and if I didn't receive my compostela in the end, I was ok with that. It would have just been what it is, a common thought of the camino. Letting everything unfold the way it was supposed to. I didn't want to be in search of other stamps (and on occasion saw other pilgrims doing this) in this focus to get my compostela. My passport is way more important to me. (Even after also receiving my compostela with one stamp in each location) I completed the camino this year, and love that my passport is a direct reflection of the places I stayed.Can someone explain why two stamps are required in one's credencial for the final 100 kms of the Camino? Many thanks!
I had my first Tarta de Santiago in Moratinos and thought for sure I'd died and gone to heaven! For some reason that day was particularly tough but ended WELL!That could be classified as an 'Over Indulgence'
Not forgetting the Tarta in Santiago, and the food on the trail, I think most of us get our 'over-indulgence'.
Biff
No. They need to be from different places on different dates.Is this correct.
Does this mean that credencials issued by national pilgrimage associations, eg., my credencial from the Canadian Company of Pilgrims, are invalid for receiving the Compostela? How can a pilgrim know if his or her credencial is "authorised by" the Cathedral of Santiago?Since the Cathedral of Santiago issues the Compostela it decided that only the credencial issued or authorised by them would be accepted by them as proof of pilgrimage in relation to the Compostela.
No, you can use the credential that you received from your national company of Pilgrims.Does this mean that credencials issued by national pilgrimage associations, eg., my credencial from the Canadian Company of Pilgrims, are invalid for receiving the Compostela? How can a pilgrim know if his or her credencial is "authorised by" the Cathedral of Santiago?
The last 100km you need 2 stamps a day. You need to get 2 stamps at the last day aswell , that will no problem. Wish you well, Peter.Just to add to the confusion, I just looked at my credential from American Pilgrims on the Camino. In addition to the requirements explained in the previous posts and linnks (100km, 200km, 2 sellos/day in Glacia), it adds: "On the final day, Pilgrims must obtain two stamps before entering the city of Santiago." (Underlining theirs).
Yikes! That's a new one. Anyone ever heard of it? View attachment 20817
You can also use it if you bought it from the local shop in your town as I did here in Montreal. What matters is that you stamp it once you start walking, then once a day after that. If tou are only ealking the last 100km you need to get it stam'No, you can use the credential that you received from your national company of Pilgrims.
Wish you well and a Buen Camino, Peter.