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You are talking about Easter week ?never been yet to camino de santiago...but for sure if you will be there on holy week, traces of christianity is a lot
Holy Week is the week before Easter.You are talking about Easter week ?
will start this coming 14th April, most of churches have 'cenaculo' on good fridayWhen is holy week in manila ?
I guess you can find as little historical connection to the pilgrimage to Santiago in Manila as you can find in Latin America - next to none. I understand from Wikipedia that European colonisation began in earnest when Spanish explorer Miguel López de Legazpi arrived in 1565 and formed the first European settlements. By that time, the pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela was already in serious decline in Europe. Also according to Wikipedia, the Spanish considered their war with the Muslims in Southeast Asia an extension of the Reconquista, a centuries-long campaign to retake and rechristianise the Spanish homeland, so you might find a connection to the apostle James as the warrior saint in the Philippines - similar to Latin-America, btw.I suppose what i should have asked is there any connection with manila seeing as it was once spanish and i was interested maybe if there was any connection via the spanish and the camino or religious connection to santiago de compestala .... probably plucking at straws
Thanks very much for those two posts .... very interesting and althought some might think trival i appricate them and something to investigate ....@Jim irish: According to this post from March 2013 by @Manny D, there is a Confraternity of Saint James in the Philippines, and they also have a Facebook page:
Camino de Santiago Philippines
Camino de Santiago Philippines, Manila, Philippines. 508 likes. Aims to bring together people interested in the medieval pilgrimage CAMINO routes to Santiago de Compostela.www.facebook.com
Check out the Facebook group - I think you will find some contemporary connections!
As far as I am concerned, it turned out to be an interesting topic . As I suspected, there are statues of Saint James on the Philippines that date back to the early days of colonisation. Such as the one below from Quingua or Plaridel which I assume is not far from Manila - never seen anything quite like this fabulous outfit before (see below). And it appears that @Manny D is a priest from the Philippines who has officiated in SdC and welcomed pilgrims there. I'm confident that he can provide you with information if you contact him directly here or on FB.although some might think trivial
this forum is for the serious and the not so serious... all aboard.Thanks very much for those two posts .... very interesting and althought some might think trival i appricate them and something to investigate ....
Thank u thank u thank u .....
prior to 1565, there was 1521 when a portuguese explorer held by Ferdinand Magellan, whom hand held santo niño as a baptismal gift.1565
That is indeed an amazing statue .... Interesting how james is protrated as both a saint and a warrior ..... have been reading about the many battles along the north of spain and in cities along the route with the muslins and others and the various alliances and betrayals .... Thanks again ....As far as I am concerned, it turned out to be an interesting topic . As I suspected, there are statues of Saint James on the Philippines that date back to the early days of colonisation. Such as the one below from Quingua or Plaridel which I assume is not far from Manila - never seen anything quite like this fabulous outfit before (see below). And it appears that @Manny D is a priest from the Philippines who has officiated in SdC and welcomed pilgrims there. I'm confident that he can provide you with information if you contact him directly here or on FB.
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Magellan (Magalhães), although Portuguese, sailed under the flag of Spain when he undertook his famous journey (almost) around the world. He encountered the chieftan, Lapu Lapu, in the Central Visayas, on the island of Mactan. Lapu Lapu was in no mood to kneel to the Spaniards and accept Catholicism. In a battle, Lapu Lapu made sure Magellan's voyage was going no further. Magellan was stabbed—some debate whether by spear or knife—and lies in a rather unkempt shrine on Mactan (at least it was unkempt when I visited it a few years ago). In due course, the entire archipeligo of 7,107 islands was named the Philippines after King Philip II of Spain. On April 27, 2019, we will mark the 498th year of Magellan's demise.prior to 1565, there was 1521 when a portuguese explorer held by Ferdinand Magellan, whom hand held santo niño as a baptismal gift.
Very interesting and i enjoyed reading about lapu lapu elsewhere and Henrique de Malaca seems to be an interesting person ....Magellan (Magalhães), although Portuguese, sailed under the flag of Spain when he undertook his famous journey (almost) around the world. He encountered the chieftan, Lapu Lapu, in the Central Visayas, on the island of Mactan. Lapu Lapu was in no mood to kneel to the Spaniards and accept Catholicism. In a battle, Lapu Lapu made sure Magellan's voyage was going no further. Magellan was stabbed—some debate whether by spear or knife—and lies in a rather unkempt shrine on Mactan (at least it was unkempt when I visited it a few years ago). In due course, the entire archipeligo of 7,107 islands was named the Philippines after King Philip II of Spain. On April 27, 2019, we will mark the 498th year of Magellan's demise.
And thank you, Jim, for sharing the video of St. James. One of my closest friends lives to this day in Alabang. I was the "best man" in his wedding which was held in the Manila Cathedral (#3 in the list of churches above).Wow might have to consider a longer visit .... https://www.google.com/amp/s/twomonkeystravelgroup.com/30-beautiful-churches-in-the-philippines/amp/
Stop i dont need encouraging ....lol on a run of 40 degree days here in western australia ..... even the word cold gets me not to mention any form of beer along with it ....lolIn my travels in the Philippines, including Manila and on the Camino in Spain I did experience two connections between the two.
Catholicism and cold San Miguel beer.
I did go to the Black Nazarene church in Manila when I was there. It appeared to be a very popular stop. Fairly busy on the outside. Vendors and such, but not so bad it was a discouragement from visiting. I recommend it. Mind you, it is just one of a few old, historic churches in Manila.Stop i dont need encouraging ....lol on a run of 40 degree days here in western australia ..... even the word cold gets me not to mention any form of beer along with it ....lol
Thanks for that mental image on a fri morning before sunrise ....
The bottom link has a post from Fr. Manny Domingo, I met him last May 2018 at end of my CF he is the head priest of the Santiago Cathedral I think until 2020 goole him he has done CF, Norte, VDLP, and one more. Though I do not believe there is a physical camino connection... a Spiritual one maybe in blooming or in full bloom. I met a group of 7 Filipino priests along the way and I have attended their mass in both Spanish and English. Fr. Manny Domingo Celebrate Mass at Santiago in English as well as Spanish.@Jim irish: According to this post from March 2013 by @Manny D, there is a Confraternity of Saint James in the Philippines, and they also have a Facebook page:
Camino de Santiago Philippines
Camino de Santiago Philippines, Manila, Philippines. 508 likes. Aims to bring together people interested in the medieval pilgrimage CAMINO routes to Santiago de Compostela.www.facebook.com
Check out the Facebook group - I think you will find some contemporary connections!
in case u dont like the beer have the fundador thenIn my travels in the Philippines, including Manila and on the Camino in Spain I did experience two connections between the two.
Catholicism and cold San Miguel beer.
The bottom link has a post from Fr. Manny Domingo, I met him last May 2018 at end of my CF he is the head priest of the Santiago Cathedral I think until 2020 goole him he has done CF, Norte, VDLP, and one more. Though I do not believe there is a physical camino connection... a Spiritual one maybe in blooming or in full bloom. I met a group of 7 Filipino priests along the way and I have attended their mass in both Spanish and English. Fr. Manny Domingo Celebrate Mass at Santiago in English as well as Spanish.
Ahhh, yes. A fine Spanish brandy. I have a bottle in my cabinet. It is a memory link to an old Barbara Streisand song about doing in Rome as the Romans do...in case u dont like the beer have the fundador then
hi 'ther,1) Jim Irish: There is now a Camino de Santiago de Compostela in Cebu with the Parish Church of St. James the Great in Compostela, Cebu as the destination. Don Elisardo, the Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Santiago de Compostela and I were there last week (February 3-9) to attend the 2nd Congress of St. James the Great Parishes in the Philippines. They also have a botafumeiro which is much bigger than the one in Santiago de Compostela.
2) Jim Irish: In Manila, there is Fort Santiago just across Manila Cathedral. There is a cruceiro there and that is a small connection to the Camino de Santiago. The cruceiro is one the markers that we see along the Camino. It is like a pole with a cross (with the image of the crucified Jesus) on top and at the back of the cross is an image of the Blessed Mother. A beautiful symbol of a mother always supporting her son.
3) Gaddong: Thank you for the information that you provided. Don Segundo Lopes Perez is the Dean of the Cathedral. I work with a team of religious sisters and lay volunteers for the welcome ministry to English speaking pilgrims, including my kababayans, Filipinos. I am not the head but just one of priest working at the Cathedral and at the Pilgrims' Office - a chaplain for English speaking pilgrims.
4) Carlos: You brought back beautiful memories about the Sunday Masses at the Leagspi Market that in past became a meeting place for peregrinos. I am now assigned here at the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela.
5) Information about the Mass in English: Because of the restoration and conservation works inside the Cathedral, the Mass in English will be celebrated at the Chapel at the Pilgrims' Center in Rua Carretas, 33. The 12:00 noon Pilgrims' Mass is now celebrated at the Church of San Francisco. The only Mass celebrated inside the Cathedral is at the Church of the Corticela at 11:00 am in Spanish. VERY IMPORTANT: The Cathedral remains open so all pilgrims, devotees, visitors can pray at the crypt and embrace the statue of St. James. Please check the Cathedral website (catedraldesantiago.es/en) and the Pilgrim Office website ((https://oficinadelperegrino.com/en/pilgrims-reception-office) for more information and updates.
5) Our Mass in English at the Chapel of the Pilgrims' Center will start on April 1, 2019 at 9:30 am (Monday-Saturday).
6) If you happen to be in Santiago de Compostela, I would be very happy to meet and welcome you at the Pilgrims' Center especially during Holy Mass. We also have a room upstairs for you to share your Camino experience or for you to just drop by for tea and coffee offered gratis et amore.
Buen Camino,
Manny D (Fr. Manny C. Domingo, Jr., SDB)
Pretty cool John, sorry i dont think i have been to Parañaque... yes i've heard of this plaza in Madrid for Rizal. i just didnt get a chance to visit it as we were always trying to get to Botîn as i've heard the cooks are filipinos and the letào (lechon) is amazing. thanks. Viva Las Islas de Filipinas!Kolbist: I lived in Manila (Parañaque) for four years; my wife is Batangeña. As you are Filipino-American, it is understandable you would know, e.g. Madrid, better than Manila—if for no other reason than geographic proximity. The next time you are in Madrid—post pandemic—wander over to the Plaza Santa Ana, have a Caña at the Cervezería Alemana (a Hemingway hangout), look over to the Teatro Español, then take a litle walk and turn right at the street (Calle) on the other side of the Teatro—Calle de Manuel Fernández y González—and stand in front (frente) of the bar Viva Madrid! (No. 7) and to the right of the outside entrance high on the wall you will see something that will remind you of your roots (attached). I raised a glass on high to Sr. Rizal; I suspect you will, too. Freedom!
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