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Hola peregrinos! I made this short video about the 10 things you NEED (or I think you need) to bring on the Camino. After two journeys and a third in the works, I've had a lot of time to think about this topic.
I hope you enjoy! Buen Camino!
-Sam
I completely agree on both counts. The scissors method for opening up a blister works great for me. Rather than Nalgene I use the Vapur collapsible water bottles. Much lighter and take up much less room when empty.Interesting presentation and it is terrific that you have the sincere desire to help others along the Way. I would gently disagree with two things mentioned:
1. Needle and thread in blister treatment. The risk of allowing bacterial infections to occur by leaving thread in the blister wound is present. Bacteria wick up the thread, into the wound, which is a dark, moist and closed environment. It matters not that the thread was 'disinfected' prior to insertion, as the disinfection is time sensitive once exposed to, and in contact with, the environment. I've seen it happen -- not on Camino -- but in other backpacking and military venues. This is an old method that really needs to go away.
The theory is that keeping the blister roof from resealing and refilling with fluid will aid healing. That is correct. Using a thread left in place can do it, but there is a much better method. Incise the side of the blister roof, close to the base nearest the sole of the foot, with either a pair of small scissors, or a disposable scalpel blade. The incision will not reseal itself and will not allow a fluid buildup. It will also keep the ability for bacterial intrusion to a minimum.
2. Nalgene bottles. Those bottles will work just fine, but they are heavy. Other lightweight alternatives exist.
I appreciate your posting, and I sincerely hope you don't take my comments as a negative about you as a contributor.
Sam, thank you for your little video. Already you have responses that show differences of opinion. This will not be the first time you have found that, I am sure! Being honest, already I forget the ten things, but if I concentrate then the pictures will remind me: buff, sandals, guide book, Swiss knife, bottles, needle and thread. Voltaren, camera. Now I am stuck! As I watched, I filtered out what I disagree with, but I see that you are simply sharing what you found helpful, and that is kind of you, especially for first time pilgrims.Hola peregrinos! I made this short video about the 10 things you NEED (or I think you need) to bring on the Camino. After two journeys and a third in the works, I've had a lot of time to think about this topic.
I hope you enjoy! Buen Camino!
Link:
-Sam
Or, better... 10 things I was happy to have on my camino. I normally take 5 of that list, and only 1 (some sort of light footwear for evenings) would I consider rather necessary.Hi @Camino2014 ! I think a better title would be ‘10 things I need.......’
Very good basic stuff. There is a good blog out there by Annies Simple life that also gives great advice. I would also take tablets to purify water, (Aussey bushmen use Condease Crystals). I drink a lot so those fountains that were a bit dodgy i was able to use.Hola peregrinos! I made this short video about the 10 things you NEED (or I think you need) to bring on the Camino. After two journeys and a third in the works, I've had a lot of time to think about this topic.
I hope you enjoy! Buen Camino!
Link:
-Sam
Hi - I assume your question is purely rhetorical, but it has a hint of incredulity about blister and bedbug problems. There are many things I have not had to cope with either - plantar fasciitis and personal assaults, for example. I attribute that to a large amount of luck, combined with some basic preparation/precautions to reduce (but not eliminate) the risks.There are two things I have NOT needed to cope with either en route (more than 2000 km so far) or in training (nearly 4000 km to date)... blisters...bedbugs...
What am I doing wrong?
I posted this in the hopes it would help new pilgrims get a clear idea of what their packing list should look like. I do not claim to be a Camino expert, only someone who is trying to help others by posting a video. If these things don't work for you, feel free to disregard my suggestions. Buen caminoHi @Camino2014 ! I think a better title would be ‘10 things I need.......’
Interesting presentation and it is terrific that you have the sincere desire to help others along the Way. I would gently disagree with two things mentioned:
1. Needle and thread in blister treatment. The risk of allowing bacterial infections to occur by leaving thread in the blister wound is present. Bacteria wick up the thread, into the wound, which is a dark, moist and closed environment. It matters not that the thread was 'disinfected' prior to insertion, as the disinfection is time sensitive once exposed to, and in contact with, the environment. I've seen it happen -- not on Camino -- but in other backpacking and military venues. This is an old method that really needs to go away.
The theory is that keeping the blister roof from resealing and refilling with fluid will aid healing. That is correct. Using a thread left in place can do it, but there is a much better method. Incise the side of the blister roof, close to the base nearest the sole of the foot, with either a pair of small scissors, or a disposable scalpel blade. The incision will not reseal itself and will not allow a fluid buildup. It will also keep the ability for bacterial intrusion to a minimum.
2. Nalgene bottles. Those bottles will work just fine, but they are heavy. Other lightweight alternatives exist.
I appreciate your posting, and I sincerely hope you don't take my comments as a negative about you as a contributor.
Glad you liked it!Sam, thank you for your little video. Already you have responses that show differences of opinion. This will not be the first time you have found that, I am sure! Being honest, already I forget the ten things, but if I concentrate then the pictures will remind me: buff, sandals, guide book, Swiss knife, bottles, needle and thread. Voltaren, camera. Now I am stuck! As I watched, I filtered out what I disagree with, but I see that you are simply sharing what you found helpful, and that is kind of you, especially for first time pilgrims.
I will have a mental check... but straight off, I can hardly say I would pack, but certainly walk with a well matched walking companion, if available!Glad you liked it!Yes, by all means, this is only a suggestion! Feel free to pick and choose what works for you - I'd be curious to hear the 10 things you/other pilgrims would pack? Buen Camino!
I made this short video about the 10 things you NEED (or I think you need) to bring on the Camino.
I'd be curious to hear the 10 things you/other pilgrims would pack?
Looking into travel insurance, any suggestions from UK with no excess!Hi, interesting ideas, and thanks for your thoughts, but you don’t actually need any of them on the CF.
Certainly not a guide book – just follow the yellow arrows.
And I would never use a needle and thread on a blister.
I can’t bring a Swiss Army Knife as my pack goes in the aircraft cabin with me.
My smartphone is my camera (but even that is not essential on the CF).
Microfibre towels are like chamois leathers – good for cleaning cars.
My cheap plastic water bottle costs 30c in the supermercado, and is replaced when it starts going green inside.
I never use liquid soap, voltaren cream or a headband.
That leaves sandals in your list, which, again, are not essential, as you could walk the whole camino without them, but they are nice to have in the evenings.
Since you ask:
1. a fleece/silk liner or lightweight sleeping bag; 2. a rain jacket or poncho; 3. moleskin or tape (so you don’t get blisters in the first place); 4. Pain killers/anti-inflammatories; 5. a few ziplock plastic bags; 6. earplugs; 7. a hat or sun visor that covers your face from the sun; 8. travel insurance; 9. nail clippers; 10. toilet paper (just in case . . .).
Jill
Exactly. And Iodine (called Betadine in Spain) & pads for your eventual blisters, NOT Compeed; one of the Devil's inventions. And Voltaren tablets for inflammation. Buy them in Spain: They have the strong stuff. Actually, all you need can be bought in Spain; cheaper and better than at home.Hi, interesting ideas, and thanks for your thoughts, but you don’t actually need any of them on the CF.
Certainly not a guide book – just follow the yellow arrows.
And I would never use a needle and thread on a blister.
I can’t bring a Swiss Army Knife as my pack goes in the aircraft cabin with me.
My smartphone is my camera (but even that is not essential on the CF).
Microfibre towels are like chamois leathers – good for cleaning cars.
My cheap plastic water bottle costs 30c in the supermercado, and is replaced when it starts going green inside.
I never use liquid soap, voltaren cream or a headband.
That leaves sandals in your list, which, again, are not essential, as you could walk the whole camino without them, but they are nice to have in the evenings.
Since you ask:
1. a fleece/silk liner or lightweight sleeping bag; 2. a rain jacket or poncho; 3. moleskin or tape (so you don’t get blisters in the first place); 4. Pain killers/anti-inflammatories; 5. a few ziplock plastic bags; 6. earplugs; 7. a hat or sun visor that covers your face from the sun; 8. travel insurance; 9. nail clippers; 10. toilet paper (just in case . . .).
Jill
As with any insurance it depends on age, general condition and use!Looking into travel insurance, any suggestions from UK with no excess!
Thanks Jeff, no specific problems, just falling apart slowly, and forgetting stuff, 56 years old,As with any insurance it depends on age, general condition and use!
Do you have any specific problems (that you're prepared to discuss)?
I generally take out a general travel package, disclosing mild hypertension, no excess on everything (the value of the goods I carry is minimal) and I opt for £10 million in health coverage (used to be £5 but things change).
My last longish Camino was the CF in 2016 when I was 65 and the cover was less than £50 through John Lewis.
Use any of the UK insurance comparison websites - I find them all pretty much the same: GoCompare/Compare the Market - Google is your friend!
Just make sure you declare all existing and recent conditions; for instance No 1 daughter has a brain tumor - it never seems to affect the cost but a friend had to abort a trip to see her son in Thailand on medical grounds and the company refused to pay out because she hadn't listed a visit to her doctors 18 months previously for a totally unconnected condition (which no longer affected her).
so, what would I pack/take?Glad you liked it!Yes, by all means, this is only a suggestion! Feel free to pick and choose what works for you - I'd be curious to hear the 10 things you/other pilgrims would pack? Buen Camino!
Are there many places to swim ? or is it for the showers? (swimsuit)so, what would I pack/take?
Enough money to last, grit, phone with 112 and ICE numbers stored, charger, walking poles, tiny daysack, poncho, first aid kit, sleeping bag or liner, swimsuit. A few clothes of course, including hat and buff. Like you, these are what I would take, and not compulsory for anyone else.
Are there many places to swim ? or is it for the showers? (swimsuit)
Bill
To all of those writing "These are just your opinions and you need to mark them as such in the subject line of your post and/or the title of your video", or words to that effect:
When have you ever seen a list of "X essential things to pack" that wasn't personal opinion? Surely, it goes without saying that any post of this type is personal opinion. It is not as if there will be someone waiting in Santiago de Composela to check the backpack and say "No Compostela for you! You walked without Voltaren. Didn't you know that you NEEDED to carry it?"
If someone goes to the effort to make a video like this to share what they learned from their experience, I would respect their contribution and not focus on the fact that they did not fill their subject line or video title with disclaimers that should be obvious to all. It is not quick and easy work to make a video like this.
I'm not saying that you have to agree with everything that was said. Of course, you should feel free to add the benefits of your experience and opinions to the mix. But to focus your responses on this type of criticism seems unduly harsh.
Of course, in case it wasn't obvious. All of this is just my opinion.
Wherever there is a chance for a dip - clues are there if you see locals at rivers, (Irotz, about 10k before Pamplona) and sometimes there are pools as I remember so well in Nájera. We were given ginormous bocadillos prepared by local young people, and free tickets to the local pool! ‘En Nájera, todos Najerinos!’Are there many places to swim ? or is it for the showers? (swimsuit)
Bill
Are there many places to swim ? or is it for the showers? (swimsuit)
Bill
Hontanas yes, at down end of village. Belorado (albergue Quatro Cantones, inside the town. There is also an albergue with pool on the entrance to the town, but there is nothing else there...). My favorite is albergue En El Camino in Boadilla del Camino, a nice day's walk from Castrojeriz. Good food & cold beer served there:Out of my head: Cizur Menor, Redecilla, Puente la Reina, Torres del Rio (but it is only a small ‘splashing’ pool), Boadilla, Hontanas (I think?) and of course if you go on to the coast (Muxía), the sea.... I think there are others but that’s all I remember right now.
I stayed there one year. I prefer Quatro Cantones in the centre of the town. Also ATM in the town.The albergue with the other pool at Belorado is Albergue A Santiago, on the Camino as you approach the town. Didn't try it (too cold both times we visited plus no swimsuit!) but it looks like it would be well-used in summer. Nice place to stay too. Just a short walk into the town centre.
I posted this in the hopes it would help new pilgrims get a clear idea of what their packing list should look like. I do not claim to be a Camino expert, only someone who is trying to help others by posting a video. If these things don't work for you, feel free to disregard my suggestions. Buen camino
I would take only my phone, but just before I leave I'm having phone issues, and battery has never lasted more than a day, so I am going to take my slightly older phone, and ten year old pentax camera with two spare batteries, hoping to have 42 days with no social media, !And my hopes are that new peregrine's use our responses to get a clear idea that their packing lists do not NEED to look like this. That the new smart phones take as good or better pictures and another camera is not necessary. That you can buy a local Opinel knife to cut baguettes. That there are lighter bottles than nalgene. That needle and thread are useful for repairs, but are generally not recommended for blister treatment. Etc.
And my hopes are that new peregrinos use our responses to get a clear idea that their packing lists do not NEED to look like this. That the new smart phones take as good or better pictures and another camera is not necessary. That you can buy a local Opinel knife to cut baguettes. That there are lighter bottles than nalgene. That needle and thread are useful for repairs, but are generally not recommended for blister treatment. Etc.
I think its a commendable thing to do a Camino without social media! As for me, I had a daily blog to run and "fans" (family and friends) that were hooked on it, so I could not do that. But I hope to attempt it in the future.I would take only my phone, but just before I leave I'm having phone issues, and battery has never lasted more than a day, so I am going to take my slightly older phone, and ten year old pentax camera with two spare batteries, hoping to have 42 days with no social media, !
Can it be done,?
Bill
Hi, interesting ideas, and thanks for your thoughts, but you don’t actually need any of them on the CF.
Certainly not a guide book – just follow the yellow arrows.
And I would never use a needle and thread on a blister.
I can’t bring a Swiss Army Knife as my pack goes in the aircraft cabin with me.
My smartphone is my camera (but even that is not essential on the CF).
Microfibre towels are like chamois leathers – good for cleaning cars.
My cheap plastic water bottle costs 30c in the supermercado, and is replaced when it starts going green inside.
I never use liquid soap, voltaren cream or a headband.
That leaves sandals in your list, which, again, are not essential, as you could walk the whole camino without them, but they are nice to have in the evenings.
Since you ask:
1. a fleece/silk liner or lightweight sleeping bag; 2. a rain jacket or poncho; 3. moleskin or tape (so you don’t get blisters in the first place); 4. Pain killers/anti-inflammatories; 5. a few ziplock plastic bags; 6. earplugs; 7. a hat or sun visor that covers your face from the sun; 8. travel insurance; 9. nail clippers; 10. toilet paper (just in case . . .).
Jill
Hope my camera lasts, bought before cameras had sharing capability, have had two weeks in Morocco without wifi, it was great, so many folk , including me are addicted to their phones, so I am going to try and get off social media,I think its a commendable thing to do a Camino without social media! As for me, I had a daily blog to run and "fans" (family and friends) that were hooked on it, so I could not do that. But I hope to attempt it in the future.
Regarding a camera, I couldn't travel without it because I like having my Camino photos separate from my phone photos (I take a lot of photos). It helped that my camera had a built-in "transfer via WiFi" function - so helpful for blogging! Buen Camino
Thanks for taking the time and effort Sam, you obviously have a caring heart. I imagine folk can take what suits them and toddle on their merry way if it’s not for them.Hola peregrinos! I made this short video about the 10 things you NEED (or I think you need) to bring on the Camino. After two journeys and a third in the works, I've had a lot of time to think about this topic.
I hope you enjoy! Buen Camino!
UPDATE: This video is only a suggestion - by no means does this list work for everyone! Please feel free to pick and choose what works for you.
-Sam
Just wanted to reiterate, Camino2014, that the issue here with your video is not really about the items you found to be essential on your Caminos. We all have our own priorities. The issue is in your title; telling others what they NEED to bring. You should expect others to bristle at that. You might want to reframe your "suggestions" as a list of what you found YOU needed on your Camino and why.
I'm using the Buen Camino app and loving it, but mine is in English, though obviously translated (pretty well) from Spanish. It's kept me, and other pilgrims, on trackI like your essentials list and surely have never done a Camino without those things! One thing: I do love following the arrows and forgetting the guidebook exists, but on the Norte, the arrows often betray you. The provincial governments compete, individuals compete, and arrows get painted all over the place! I often found myself going every which way! If not a guidebook, I found the Buen Camino apps to be very helpful and filled with updated re-routings (entirely in Spanish).
As opposed to all of the other lists of essentials which weren't just opinions but were objectively essential?
Just make sure you declare all existing and recent conditions; for instance No 1 daughter has a brain tumor - it never seems to affect the cost but a friend had to abort a trip to see her son in Thailand on medical grounds and the company refused to pay out because she hadn't listed a visit to her doctors 18 months previously for a totally unconnected condition (which no longer affected her).
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1. Needle and thread in blister treatment. The risk of allowing bacterial infections to occur by leaving thread in the blister wound is present. Bacteria wick up the thread, into the wound, which is a dark, moist and closed environment. It matters not that the thread was 'disinfected' prior to insertion, as the disinfection is time sensitive once exposed to, and in contact with, the environment. I've seen it happen -- not on Camino -- but in other backpacking and military venues. This is an old method that really needs to go away. ...
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Yes, please, let's make the "thread treatment" go away! I have seen so many really bad infections because of this! BC SY
That reads like the top half of my bucket listI don't think I have used most of those 10 things. In particular I have no idea why people bring swiss army knives. I have never needed to get a stone out of a horse's hoof, open a can or bottle, use a corkscrew, ream a hole in leather, saw wood, strip wire, tweeze bones or get a hook out of a fish, or skin a rabbit on camino. I just tear my bread and cheese, and bite bits off. Shopkeepers will open wine and beer for you.
Me too. I did all of those things, and that was just on the first morning between SJPP and Orisson...That reads like the top half of my bucket list
The trouble with the SAK is it doesn't come with instructions.Me too. I did all of those things, and that was just on the first morning between SJPP and Orisson...
Now there's a sentence I never thought I'd read.I only need a simple knife to peel kiwi fruit to prevent constipation (by the way, this word is a false friend of Spanish constipado).
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