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Book the flight if you can cancel it without penalty, can change it without penalty or can live with the loss of the total sum of the money you paid for the flight.A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
With vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
That all rather depends on the Insolvency regime in the country of registry of the airline. In most regimes punters will rank with all other unsecured creditors - somewhere way below the salt!Refunds promised by airlines: If the airline in question goes bankrupt due to e.g. prolonged low passenger numbers, where will the money for the refund come from?
I understood the OP's question to be a question about potential hurdles connected to the public health situation and not a question about visa. I am not intensely familiar with the current situation in the world's airports and in any case we will not know what the situation in August 2021 will be like although we all expect it to be considerably better than now. But here's a quote from August last year, just to show that one needs to check what applies to one's own situation:You are in-transit. You do not need a visa to enter Canada as a US citizen. You will need your ticket to your final destination abroad and your passport.
I understood the OP's question to be a question about potential hurdles connected to the public health situation and not a question about visa. I am not intensely familiar with the current situation in the world's airports and in any case we will not know what the situation in August 2021 will be like although we all expect it to be considerable better than now. But here's a quote from August last year, just to show that one needs to check what applies to one's own situation:
Under the new rules, which apply from August 31, the country of departure, not the stopover country, determines whether travellers may enter Switzerland. For example, it is no longer possible for third-country nationals to fly to Switzerland from the USA via Toronto.
So, you can transit all you want in a Canadian airport for example and without any Covid related or visa related restrictions - you may still not be allowed to fly to your destination when the destination says no.
The quote doesn't say that anyone was trying to do this on purpose in order to circumvent any regulation; it simply clarifies the regulation in force at the time.How unfortunate that people would do this!
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
You are in-transit. You do not need a visa to enter Canada as a US citizen.
You will need your ticket to your final destination abroad and your passport.
With vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
The quote doesn't say that anyone was trying to do this on purpose in order to circumvent any regulation; it simply clarifies the regulation in force at the
Katharina, This new regulation intends to prevent people from using loopholes in the entry requirements by travelling in transit via countries which are not on the high-risk list.The quote doesn't say that anyone was trying to do this on purpose in order to circumvent any regulation; it simply clarifies the regulation in force at the time.
This may well be the case. However, what does it matter why a country introduces rules for entry or transit or whether some people somewhere may circumvent rules?That is why the rule was put into place. So I stand by my commemt, which was meant to be conditional.
LOL, a flashback: there was a thread that started in January 2020. The title was "Corona Virus ...". Someone remarked that the media has much to answer for over the sensationalist reporting of this coronavirus and encouraged us to not let it upset our travel plans. Unless my memory fails me, that was the predominant forum opinion at the time, btw. To which I replied on 1 February 2020 among other remarks I made: "And the other thing is, to be honest, that I don’t care whether people change their travel plans voluntarily and out of unjustified fear. The less people travel, the better full stop."it’s been 11 long months since the day in the middle of March 2020 when we heard for the first time in our news that our local shops will close in the hope that Covid-19 can be contained ...
I believe in solidarity at this time of our world crisis. Despite my “no travel/no Camino” since last year growing psychological challenge and having 2 passports (EU + CAD), of which one allows me into fly to any EU country, I am joining millions by sitting tight at home and doing my tiny part. You might be vaccinated vs most of the rest of the world but there is no solid data yet for the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, indicating that you will NOT carry/transmit covid. Please be patient, dream along with the majority of us and travel when others won’t be put at risk. Thanks!With vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
4th airport is MontrealAs a Canadian, I can see that the regulations for entering and leaving Canada by air are extremely fluid at the present time. I would not buy an airline ticket because the Canadian airlines have been refusing to refund the cost of cancelled tickets. This has been a major news item in Canada for some time, as the airlines are demanding government bailouts while refusing to refund cancelled tickets which have been paid for. The government says, "When you pay what you owe and return service to many areas where airline servce in Canada has been totally cut, we would consider a bailout." I hope that this stand-off is over before I am ready to fly to Spain again. In addition, there are many new restrictions being introduced about international travel. Only four airports are open for international travel: Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto and Vancouver. And there are many other limitations, which largely apply to those coming to Canada, rather than those transitting. Going to Spain, I have noticed from following up an advertisement from a European airline, that the former flights from Calgary cannot currently be booked. I am not suggesting that any of these conditions may still exist in the summer, or later. The government of Canada is attempting to respond to pandemic conditions by limiting travel in order to keep infection numbers down. This situation may be changed in any way at any time until the pandemic is under control, and no one can know when that will be.
The vaccine rollout in France is very slow. Think 2021 is on hold.With vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
Canada has new restrictions. Spain is on of the worst places at the moment.With vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
And then, of course, even the Canadian portion may be problematic if they don't put you on the ongoing flight from Canada because they know France (or Switzerland or whatever) won't accept you. Then, all of a sudden, you aren't transiting through Canada but stuck here with no ongoing flight. And at that point you may be subject to any quarantining requirements.I understood the OP's question to be a question about potential hurdles connected to the public health situation and not a question about visa. I am not intensely familiar with the current situation in the world's airports and in any case we will not know what the situation in August 2021 will be like although we all expect it to be considerably better than now. But here's a quote from August last year, just to show that one needs to check what applies to one's own situation:
Under the new rules, which apply from August 31, the country of departure, not the stopover country, determines whether travellers may enter Switzerland. For example, it is no longer possible for third-country nationals to fly to Switzerland from the USA via Toronto.
So, you can transit all you want in a Canadian airport for example and without any Covid related or visa related restrictions - you may still not be allowed to fly to your destination when the destination says no.
LOL, a flashback: there was a thread that started in January 2020. The title was "Corona Virus ...".
If anyone wants to read this thread to see what we were all thinking last year, here it isI started that first thread "Corona virus..." inquiring about Covid-19 and what it could possibly mean to our Camino travel plans in the "near future"
And the OP implied they had a short connection...not something I would consider with a flight from USA to Canada.....which could easily be delayed because of poor weather conditions.And then, of course, even the Canadian portion may be problematic if they don't put you on the ongoing flight from Canada because they know France (or Switzerland or whatever) won't accept you. Then, all of a sudden, you aren't transiting through Canada but stuck here with no ongoing flight. And at that point you may be subject to any quarantining requirements.
All in all, not a great situation for travellers. We live in hope that it will improve, and expect so, but none of us know the timetable for those improvements.
I did not know the flight from Mtl to Lyon is shorter than to Paris! Will furiously google.Covid aside ... I did the Le Puy route several years ago. I live in Western Canada and chose to fly thru Montreal, with a 3 hour stopover there, and then on to Lyon France. The alternative was a direct 8 hour flight to Paris.
In my opinion the Montreal - Lyon route was best. I avoided the long flight which I find discombobulates me for several days. (Montreal - Lyon was 3 hours shorter?). I had a nice walk around break at the Montreal airport with a good dinner. And best of all I Lyon was wonderful! Less stressful than Paris, cheaper, easily worth a 3 day stop over to get orientated. Lyon is also readily accessible to Le Puy.
So when it is once again possible to travel I highly recommend the Montreal - Lyon route to Le Puy.
What an utterly nasty response, I’m not use to such hostility. I’m “ privileged” because I work at times 16 hour shifts back to back in a very busy Emergency Room.Canada has new restrictions. Spain is on of the worst places at the moment.
I’m sure you realize the vaccine protects your body from the effects of the virus.
you can still carry and pass the vaccine to others who are not as privileged as you. That is not a nice thing to do..
Thank you for this information! It was exactly what kind of information I sought.There's already plenty of practical information and useful links in this thread. Although airline staff often get a bad rap (level of accurate information about poles spring to my mind - probably for all eternity), I have the impression that their level of information about Covid-19 regulations that are applicable for their passengers is quite good and up to date. Governments work with the airlines to ensure compliance of arriving passengers and to keep unqualified passengers from departing in the first place. Just for future reference and as an example:
When you go to the Air Canada website, you will find webpages dedicated to Covid-19 issues for travellers, including information on Know your entry requirements before you fly with links to Entry into France and Transit through Canada.
AirFrance helpfully spells out that each time you cross an international border you will need to comply with three different sets of regulations which all apply: the rules on mobility (Covid-19 related); the public health measures (Covid-19 related); and the usual rules governing the right to stay.
No one knows. There are so many uncertainties regarding vaccine production and availability, travel restrictions, viral variants, and the course of the pandemic that it is impossible to forecast what the situation will be like in August.With vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
Canada is imposing even stricter regulations on inbound travellers over the next weeks. Check the travel restrictions at https://travel.gc.caWith vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
Up to the point where Coronavirus impacted world travel, it was often possible to get a reasonable flight to many Camino starting points from Canada as many Canadian airlines offered direct flights to smaller cities (Porto for example) due to significant populations of expats from those destinations living in Canada. I know that they would be much easier than flying to a large European hub and transferring there. US citizens could transit from one flight to a connecting flight leaving Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver without issues. The pandemic changes everything. Hopefully within a few years we will be able to be back on the Camino again!Canada is imposing even stricter regulations on inbound travellers over the next weeks. Check the travel restrictions at https://travel.gc.ca
I guess you know that getting the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting Covid and it doesn't stop you from passing it on! Camino in August coming from the US? Dream on! But I do wish you good luckWith vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
I heard that they’re doing studies to see if people who’ve been vaccinated can pass it on. From my understanding, they’re not sure yet.I guess you know that getting the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting Covid and it doesn't stop you from passing it on! Camino in August coming from the US? Dream on! But I do wish you good luck
Thank you to those who shared insight based on my question, you're the best! The knowledge on our forum never ceases to amaze me.With vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
Love you bunches Mspath!!!!!Reading of your ticket purcbase is happy news for all of us!
Looking forward to reading your blog posts when you are on route.
Carpe diem and, in the truest sense,
Ultreia..
I had a similar flight that was bringing me back through the US and then to Canada. Changed it to something better. To answer your question, once you are through customs and just changing planes in the same terminal, no extra paperwork will be required. If you are landing in Toronto, even if you change terminals, it is behind customs so no worries.With vaccines behind me, I'm starting to think that maybe there is a chance for a Le Puy in August.
Would love thoughts on that, realizing everything is "unknown"...
A good flight is appearing , it takes me to Canada though (from the US), its the fastest and cheapest. Cheaper than some flights that have two layovers....
Makes me wonder the catch?
Do I have to worry about being qualified to go to Canada and France in August if I do this option.
Does anyone know....
I would not leave the airport and infact would have to RUN to the next flight....
Thanks,
N
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