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MWerda

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Jun 23, 2016
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Mississippi, United States
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Camino Frances (2020)
Hello, Bonjour, Buenos Días,
I leave for my Camino in 148 days. I can’t believe it’s actually happening. My name is Mike. I’m a school teacher from coastal Mississippi, in the United States. I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a couple years. This past fall the bug hit and everything started falling into place. I previously explained in my introduction in the Class of 2020 thread ( https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/class-of-2020.58941/post-683888 ) how I was introduced to the idea of walking the Camino when a friend shared with me the movie, “The Way.” I thought about it, and eventually put it on the back burner. This past year some friends from my church parish did a pilgrimage to Fatima, Santiago, and Lourdes. One of the ladies posted a picture of the Botafumeiro, and my fire was stoked. When I finally told some friends that I was thinking of doing the Camino, that was all it took to manifest my dream.
So, now that most of my plans are solidified, what am I doing? The day after teachers finish for the school year, I’m on a flight for Paris. I’m spending the weekend (Pentecost weekend) in Paris and then taking a train to Lourdes. I’ve never been on a train, let alone a high speed train - I’m excited. I’ve been trying to learn a little French with Duolingo, both for Paris and Lourdes, but also because my Camino begins in Lourdes. On 03 June, I begin walking from Lourdes to Saint Jean Pied de Port. So, a little French might just help a week of walking in southern France. On 10 June, I begin walking the Camino Francés. I’m also taking a couple of Spanish classes to brush up on the Spanish I learned in middle school and high school. I’ve got reservations at Orrison and Roncesvalles. I’m not planning on rushing this pilgrimage. I’m going take 40 days to walk the Francés, attempting to stay between stages as much as possible. I’ll get into Santiago toward the end of July. The plan is to walk to the Atlantic and then bus back to Santiago for the weekend of 25 July, the Feast of Saint James. I made sure to get reservations in Santiago both before going to Finesterre/Muxia and for the return and weekend. I’m hoping the Cathedral will be open for Masses once again, not because it’s a culmination, but because it’s potentially part of the Camino experience.
I have learned so much from the posts I’ve been reading here on the forum, as well as vlogs on YouTube. And now, I have 138 days to wait, get in shape (strength training and training walks), and fine tune my packing list.
I’m sure many of you know the feeling, but the days I got my Orrison e-mail (that sounded a little like Harry Potter getting his Hogwarts letter, 🤔) and booked my flight I was tingling, giddy even. Even today, I just booked my flight from Santiago back to Paris and I’m grinning from ear to ear.

Buen Camino!
Mike
 
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Mar 1, 2017
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Hello! I can just feel all your enthusiasm bubbling out in your post! I still get excited and will be walking my 6th and varied Camino route this coming spring. It sounds like you have gleaned all the help you have needed in preparation from this wonderful forum. I hope your camino experience will be all you hope for it to be...and more!
I wish you well and Buen Camino!
 
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naplesdon

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You will love it. Don't let your fear of your language skills spook you. You will never speak like a native and I for one who have lived there on and off for over 10 years still rely on my Franglais and Spanglish.
Also prepare yourself for an eye popping experience in Lourdes. Believe me and and others it is nothing like the rest of the Camino. Once you start walking from there you will get your rhythm. Forty days is perfect, parfait, perfecto.
 
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Dani7

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Jul 14, 2017
772
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Ontario, Canada
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I also can feel your excitement and share your joy and anticipation Mike. I will also be experiencing the Camino for the first time in early April 2020 and like you, am counting the days. Wishing you a safe and memorable journey. Buen Camino 🤸‍♀️😀
 
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MWerda

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Jun 23, 2016
7
58
Mississippi, United States
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Camino Frances (2020)
You will love it. Don't let your fear of your language skills spook you. You will never speak like a native and I for one who have lived there on and off for over 10 years still rely on my Franglais and Spanglish.
Also prepare yourself for an eye popping experience in Lourdes. Believe me and and others it is nothing like the rest of the Camino. Once you start walking from there you will get your rhythm. Forty days is perfect, parfait, perfecto.
Thank you for words of encouragement. I agree, I’ll never speak like them. But, hopefully I will be able to speak with them. I love languages, and I’m hoping some immersion will improve mine.
 
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I anticipate that you will have a wonderful and fulfilling time ahead.

It seems as though it is a long ways to when you board the plane and depart for Camino, but the time will suddenly evaporate, and you will be left amazed at how quickly the time has past. :)

So, enjoy all the time ahead as you prepare, as well as the time when you are on Camino. We are here to support you, and to help you as we can. :)
 
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Tassie Kaz

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Jan 11, 2019
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Tasmania, Australia
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2024?
Don't you love when a seed 🌱 is planted? It simmers away on the back-burner until it simply must be addressed.
Buen Camino for your first walk @MWerda ...I can tell you already, it most likely won't be your last, sending you on a whole new path (pardon the pun) like thousands of us before you.
Enjoy!
👣 🌏
 
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Mima1965

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Dec 31, 2019
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Norte/Primitivo/Frances (2021)
Hello, Bonjour, Buenos Días,
I leave for my Camino in 148 days. I can’t believe it’s actually happening. My name is Mike. I’m a school teacher from coastal Mississippi, in the United States. I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a couple years. This past fall the bug hit and everything started falling into place. I previously explained in my introduction in the Class of 2020 thread ( https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/class-of-2020.58941/post-683888 ) how I was introduced to the idea of walking the Camino when a friend shared with me the movie, “The Way.” I thought about it, and eventually put it on the back burner. This past year some friends from my church parish did a pilgrimage to Fatima, Santiago, and Lourdes. One of the ladies posted a picture of the Botafumeiro, and my fire was stoked. When I finally told some friends that I was thinking of doing the Camino, that was all it took to manifest my dream.
So, now that most of my plans are solidified, what am I doing? The day after teachers finish for the school year, I’m on a flight for Paris. I’m spending the weekend (Pentecost weekend) in Paris and then taking a train to Lourdes. I’ve never been on a train, let alone a high speed train - I’m excited. I’ve been trying to learn a little French with Duolingo, both for Paris and Lourdes, but also because my Camino begins in Lourdes. On 03 June, I begin walking from Lourdes to Saint Jean Pied de Port. So, a little French might just help a week of walking in southern France. On 10 June, I begin walking the Camino Francés. I’m also taking a couple of Spanish classes to brush up on the Spanish I learned in middle school and high school. I’ve got reservations at Orrison and Roncesvalles. I’m not planning on rushing this pilgrimage. I’m going take 40 days to walk the Francés, attempting to stay between stages as much as possible. I’ll get into Santiago toward the end of July. The plan is to walk to the Atlantic and then bus back to Santiago for the weekend of 25 July, the Feast of Saint James. I made sure to get reservations in Santiago both before going to Finesterre/Muxia and for the return and weekend. I’m hoping the Cathedral will be open for Masses once again, not because it’s a culmination, but because it’s potentially part of the Camino experience.
I have learned so much from the posts I’ve been reading here on the forum, as well as vlogs on YouTube. And now, I have 138 days to wait, get in shape (strength training and training walks), and fine tune my packing list.
I’m sure many of you know the feeling, but the days I got my Orrison e-mail (that sounded a little like Harry Potter getting his Hogwarts letter, 🤔) and booked my flight I was tingling, giddy even. Even today, I just booked my flight from Santiago back to Paris and I’m grinning from ear to ear.

Buen Camino!
Mike
Feeding on your excitement and wishing it was my turn! ....but 2021 is my year and savouring it already!
Altreia y buen camino!
 
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Sue127

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Mozarabe Feb 24
Hello, Bonjour, Buenos Días,
I leave for my Camino in 148 days. I can’t believe it’s actually happening. My name is Mike. I’m a school teacher from coastal Mississippi, in the United States. I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a couple years. This past fall the bug hit and everything started falling into place. I previously explained in my introduction in the Class of 2020 thread ( https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/class-of-2020.58941/post-683888 ) how I was introduced to the idea of walking the Camino when a friend shared with me the movie, “The Way.” I thought about it, and eventually put it on the back burner. This past year some friends from my church parish did a pilgrimage to Fatima, Santiago, and Lourdes. One of the ladies posted a picture of the Botafumeiro, and my fire was stoked. When I finally told some friends that I was thinking of doing the Camino, that was all it took to manifest my dream.
So, now that most of my plans are solidified, what am I doing? The day after teachers finish for the school year, I’m on a flight for Paris. I’m spending the weekend (Pentecost weekend) in Paris and then taking a train to Lourdes. I’ve never been on a train, let alone a high speed train - I’m excited. I’ve been trying to learn a little French with Duolingo, both for Paris and Lourdes, but also because my Camino begins in Lourdes. On 03 June, I begin walking from Lourdes to Saint Jean Pied de Port. So, a little French might just help a week of walking in southern France. On 10 June, I begin walking the Camino Francés. I’m also taking a couple of Spanish classes to brush up on the Spanish I learned in middle school and high school. I’ve got reservations at Orrison and Roncesvalles. I’m not planning on rushing this pilgrimage. I’m going take 40 days to walk the Francés, attempting to stay between stages as much as possible. I’ll get into Santiago toward the end of July. The plan is to walk to the Atlantic and then bus back to Santiago for the weekend of 25 July, the Feast of Saint James. I made sure to get reservations in Santiago both before going to Finesterre/Muxia and for the return and weekend. I’m hoping the Cathedral will be open for Masses once again, not because it’s a culmination, but because it’s potentially part of the Camino experience.
I have learned so much from the posts I’ve been reading here on the forum, as well as vlogs on YouTube. And now, I have 138 days to wait, get in shape (strength training and training walks), and fine tune my packing list.
I’m sure many of you know the feeling, but the days I got my Orrison e-mail (that sounded a little like Harry Potter getting his Hogwarts letter, 🤔) and booked my flight I was tingling, giddy even. Even today, I just booked my flight from Santiago back to Paris and I’m grinning from ear to ear.

Buen Camino!
Mike

My first is planned for Sept/Oct but excitement may mean I have to bring it forward. :)
 
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Hello, Bonjour, Buenos Días,
I leave for my Camino in 148 days. I can’t believe it’s actually happening. My name is Mike. I’m a school teacher from coastal Mississippi, in the United States. I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a couple years. This past fall the bug hit and everything started falling into place. I previously explained in my introduction in the Class of 2020 thread ( https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/class-of-2020.58941/post-683888 ) how I was introduced to the idea of walking the Camino when a friend shared with me the movie, “The Way.” I thought about it, and eventually put it on the back burner. This past year some friends from my church parish did a pilgrimage to Fatima, Santiago, and Lourdes. One of the ladies posted a picture of the Botafumeiro, and my fire was stoked. When I finally told some friends that I was thinking of doing the Camino, that was all it took to manifest my dream.
So, now that most of my plans are solidified, what am I doing? The day after teachers finish for the school year, I’m on a flight for Paris. I’m spending the weekend (Pentecost weekend) in Paris and then taking a train to Lourdes. I’ve never been on a train, let alone a high speed train - I’m excited. I’ve been trying to learn a little French with Duolingo, both for Paris and Lourdes, but also because my Camino begins in Lourdes. On 03 June, I begin walking from Lourdes to Saint Jean Pied de Port. So, a little French might just help a week of walking in southern France. On 10 June, I begin walking the Camino Francés. I’m also taking a couple of Spanish classes to brush up on the Spanish I learned in middle school and high school. I’ve got reservations at Orrison and Roncesvalles. I’m not planning on rushing this pilgrimage. I’m going take 40 days to walk the Francés, attempting to stay between stages as much as possible. I’ll get into Santiago toward the end of July. The plan is to walk to the Atlantic and then bus back to Santiago for the weekend of 25 July, the Feast of Saint James. I made sure to get reservations in Santiago both before going to Finesterre/Muxia and for the return and weekend. I’m hoping the Cathedral will be open for Masses once again, not because it’s a culmination, but because it’s potentially part of the Camino experience.
I have learned so much from the posts I’ve been reading here on the forum, as well as vlogs on YouTube. And now, I have 138 days to wait, get in shape (strength training and training walks), and fine tune my packing list.
I’m sure many of you know the feeling, but the days I got my Orrison e-mail (that sounded a little like Harry Potter getting his Hogwarts letter, 🤔) and booked my flight I was tingling, giddy even. Even today, I just booked my flight from Santiago back to Paris and I’m grinning from ear to ear.

Buen Camino!
Mike
Congratulations and best of luck as you go through the planning. I envy you getting the feeling of your first Camino. It can be a life changing experience. Savour and enjoy each day.
 
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JennyH94

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Apr 8, 2013
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Buen Camino. The Grins will only get bigger ;)
And Mike - as Robo and Pat know, the feeling of that first step out on the Camino is indescribable! Think pure joy and you’re part way there!
Cheers from Oz -
Jenny
 
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Hello, Bonjour, Buenos Días,
I leave for my Camino in 148 days. I can’t believe it’s actually happening. My name is Mike. I’m a school teacher from coastal Mississippi, in the United States. I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a couple years. This past fall the bug hit and everything started falling into place. I previously explained in my introduction in the Class of 2020 thread ( https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/class-of-2020.58941/post-683888 ) how I was introduced to the idea of walking the Camino when a friend shared with me the movie, “The Way.” I thought about it, and eventually put it on the back burner. This past year some friends from my church parish did a pilgrimage to Fatima, Santiago, and Lourdes. One of the ladies posted a picture of the Botafumeiro, and my fire was stoked. When I finally told some friends that I was thinking of doing the Camino, that was all it took to manifest my dream.
So, now that most of my plans are solidified, what am I doing? The day after teachers finish for the school year, I’m on a flight for Paris. I’m spending the weekend (Pentecost weekend) in Paris and then taking a train to Lourdes. I’ve never been on a train, let alone a high speed train - I’m excited. I’ve been trying to learn a little French with Duolingo, both for Paris and Lourdes, but also because my Camino begins in Lourdes. On 03 June, I begin walking from Lourdes to Saint Jean Pied de Port. So, a little French might just help a week of walking in southern France. On 10 June, I begin walking the Camino Francés. I’m also taking a couple of Spanish classes to brush up on the Spanish I learned in middle school and high school. I’ve got reservations at Orrison and Roncesvalles. I’m not planning on rushing this pilgrimage. I’m going take 40 days to walk the Francés, attempting to stay between stages as much as possible. I’ll get into Santiago toward the end of July. The plan is to walk to the Atlantic and then bus back to Santiago for the weekend of 25 July, the Feast of Saint James. I made sure to get reservations in Santiago both before going to Finesterre/Muxia and for the return and weekend. I’m hoping the Cathedral will be open for Masses once again, not because it’s a culmination, but because it’s potentially part of the Camino experience.
I have learned so much from the posts I’ve been reading here on the forum, as well as vlogs on YouTube. And now, I have 138 days to wait, get in shape (strength training and training walks), and fine tune my packing list.
I’m sure many of you know the feeling, but the days I got my Orrison e-mail (that sounded a little like Harry Potter getting his Hogwarts letter, 🤔) and booked my flight I was tingling, giddy even. Even today, I just booked my flight from Santiago back to Paris and I’m grinning from ear to ear.

Buen Camino!
Mike
What a lovely post! I am headed for my second Camino, this time in Portugal, this summer. Maybe we will see each other! Buen Camino!
 

kdespot

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Yay, Mike! Love your energy! It's clear that you're a great teacher. Thank you! This experience will change your mindset... mostly for the better, some for the profoundly uncertain as life goes forward. You and everyone that you touch thereafter will be different. Congrats on a great decision, with much Camino love, from a retired teacher.
 
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Mary Doll

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Aug 13, 2017
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Hi Mike
I’ll be a couple of days ahead of you on the Francés. I leave Saint Jean in 7 June. I’ve also booked Orisson and Roncesvalles and also booked Albergue Suseia in Zubiri. No plans after that. Will just stop wherever I feel like it. I’m taking early retirement from my job at end of April so can take as long as I like to walk. I intend to walk to Santiago and then to Finisterre and Muxia and then be a tourist for a couple of weeks in Spain and maybe Portugal. Currently doing a mixture of strength training and cardio at the gym 6 days a week and walking at weekends. I have 15 days holiday to use before the end of March so I’m going to start taking a day off mid week which will give me another walking day.
Buen Camino
Marie
 

maruska89

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Feb 21, 2017
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Camino Frances-Apr/May 2019
Hello, Bonjour, Buenos Días,
I leave for my Camino in 148 days. I can’t believe it’s actually happening. My name is Mike. I’m a school teacher from coastal Mississippi, in the United States. I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a couple years. This past fall the bug hit and everything started falling into place. I previously explained in my introduction in the Class of 2020 thread ( https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/class-of-2020.58941/post-683888 ) how I was introduced to the idea of walking the Camino when a friend shared with me the movie, “The Way.” I thought about it, and eventually put it on the back burner. This past year some friends from my church parish did a pilgrimage to Fatima, Santiago, and Lourdes. One of the ladies posted a picture of the Botafumeiro, and my fire was stoked. When I finally told some friends that I was thinking of doing the Camino, that was all it took to manifest my dream.
So, now that most of my plans are solidified, what am I doing? The day after teachers finish for the school year, I’m on a flight for Paris. I’m spending the weekend (Pentecost weekend) in Paris and then taking a train to Lourdes. I’ve never been on a train, let alone a high speed train - I’m excited. I’ve been trying to learn a little French with Duolingo, both for Paris and Lourdes, but also because my Camino begins in Lourdes. On 03 June, I begin walking from Lourdes to Saint Jean Pied de Port. So, a little French might just help a week of walking in southern France. On 10 June, I begin walking the Camino Francés. I’m also taking a couple of Spanish classes to brush up on the Spanish I learned in middle school and high school. I’ve got reservations at Orrison and Roncesvalles. I’m not planning on rushing this pilgrimage. I’m going take 40 days to walk the Francés, attempting to stay between stages as much as possible. I’ll get into Santiago toward the end of July. The plan is to walk to the Atlantic and then bus back to Santiago for the weekend of 25 July, the Feast of Saint James. I made sure to get reservations in Santiago both before going to Finesterre/Muxia and for the return and weekend. I’m hoping the Cathedral will be open for Masses once again, not because it’s a culmination, but because it’s potentially part of the Camino experience.
I have learned so much from the posts I’ve been reading here on the forum, as well as vlogs on YouTube. And now, I have 138 days to wait, get in shape (strength training and training walks), and fine tune my packing list.
I’m sure many of you know the feeling, but the days I got my Orrison e-mail (that sounded a little like Harry Potter getting his Hogwarts letter, 🤔) and booked my flight I was tingling, giddy even. Even today, I just booked my flight from Santiago back to Paris and I’m grinning from ear to ear.

Buen Camino!
Mike
Congratulations on getting this far in your preparations. It sounds like you have a good grasp of the Camino and I'm sure you'll have a fantastic time. Research and training do help. I gleaned a lot of info from this forum as well. I did the Frances this year in April and may and did continue to Finisterre and that was a great way for me to end my Camino. All the best to you and Buen Camino.
 
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LynneR

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Hello, Bonjour, Buenos Días,
I leave for my Camino in 148 days. I can’t believe it’s actually happening. My name is Mike. I’m a school teacher from coastal Mississippi, in the United States. I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a couple years. This past fall the bug hit and everything started falling into place. I previously explained in my introduction in the Class of 2020 thread ( https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/class-of-2020.58941/post-683888 ) how I was introduced to the idea of walking the Camino when a friend shared with me the movie, “The Way.” I thought about it, and eventually put it on the back burner. This past year some friends from my church parish did a pilgrimage to Fatima, Santiago, and Lourdes. One of the ladies posted a picture of the Botafumeiro, and my fire was stoked. When I finally told some friends that I was thinking of doing the Camino, that was all it took to manifest my dream.
So, now that most of my plans are solidified, what am I doing? The day after teachers finish for the school year, I’m on a flight for Paris. I’m spending the weekend (Pentecost weekend) in Paris and then taking a train to Lourdes. I’ve never been on a train, let alone a high speed train - I’m excited. I’ve been trying to learn a little French with Duolingo, both for Paris and Lourdes, but also because my Camino begins in Lourdes. On 03 June, I begin walking from Lourdes to Saint Jean Pied de Port. So, a little French might just help a week of walking in southern France. On 10 June, I begin walking the Camino Francés. I’m also taking a couple of Spanish classes to brush up on the Spanish I learned in middle school and high school. I’ve got reservations at Orrison and Roncesvalles. I’m not planning on rushing this pilgrimage. I’m going take 40 days to walk the Francés, attempting to stay between stages as much as possible. I’ll get into Santiago toward the end of July. The plan is to walk to the Atlantic and then bus back to Santiago for the weekend of 25 July, the Feast of Saint James. I made sure to get reservations in Santiago both before going to Finesterre/Muxia and for the return and weekend. I’m hoping the Cathedral will be open for Masses once again, not because it’s a culmination, but because it’s potentially part of the Camino experience.
I have learned so much from the posts I’ve been reading here on the forum, as well as vlogs on YouTube. And now, I have 138 days to wait, get in shape (strength training and training walks), and fine tune my packing list.
I’m sure many of you know the feeling, but the days I got my Orrison e-mail (that sounded a little like Harry Potter getting his Hogwarts letter, 🤔) and booked my flight I was tingling, giddy even. Even today, I just booked my flight from Santiago back to Paris and I’m grinning from ear to ear.

Buen Camino!
Mike

Hello,
You have a great plan.
I am also a school teacher, but I am in Michigan. A few days after school ends, I leave from Detroit on June 3rd and plan to begin from SJPP on June 5. You will love every step, even on the most difficult days. I have walked two partial Caminos. This is the first full CF. At first when I was reading your post I thought we would overlap, but now I think not. Anyway, blessings to you! Enjoy!
 
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