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It could be said that the problem of Castronuño is the problem of Spain: This ancient land just has too many old things in need of fixing. There are Phoenician forts, Celtic castles, Moorish minarets, Roman ramparts, granite Greek graves — all left by bygone civilizations that came here conquering, all bent on leaving something for posterity.
Jungleboy,An article in the New York Times today:
A Spanish Mystery: Is a ‘Masked Restorer’ to Blame for a Church’s Botched Repair?
It's about another poor restoration job, this time concerning visible modern cement showing in an arch of a Romanesque church in Castronuño, about 50km east of Zamora. This made news recently in Spain but apparently the cement has been there for over 20 years. Considering this and other poor, newsworthy restoration attempts that we have discussed here before, this is probably the key takeaway of the article:
I saw that article also. It’s a real problem in Italy as well, of course. And probably in all the countries bordering the Mediterranean, because civilization and culture has been here so long. So many things that need restoration/ conservation and not enough money or qualified individuals to do it.An article in the New York Times today:
A Spanish Mystery: Is a ‘Masked Restorer’ to Blame for a Church’s Botched Repair?
It's about another poor restoration job, this time concerning visible modern cement showing in an arch of a Romanesque church in Castronuño, about 50km east of Zamora. This made news recently in Spain but apparently the cement has been there for over 20 years. Considering this and other poor, newsworthy restoration attempts that we have discussed here before, this is probably the key takeaway of the article:
It is true — there is just *so much* to try to take care of…An article in the New York Times today:
A Spanish Mystery: Is a ‘Masked Restorer’ to Blame for a Church’s Botched Repair?
It's about another poor restoration job, this time concerning visible modern cement showing in an arch of a Romanesque church in Castronuño, about 50km east of Zamora. This made news recently in Spain but apparently the cement has been there for over 20 years. Considering this and other poor, newsworthy restoration attempts that we have discussed here before, this is probably the key takeaway of the article:
That sounds like a good idea as well. In my experience with these projects it often depends on what protocols whoever is supervising the work believes In. I’m usually just a worker bee.IIRC it is considered good practice to repair using a different coloured mortar to the original. Adding 'history' to the historic.
Ordinarily that would be true. But since a picture from 1999 shows it, no telling how long ago it happened.Of course it was someone local who had a great interest in the church. People know, But they’re just not saying.
We are seeing for ourselves how buildings turn themselves into archaeological sites. It takes a ton of money to resist thermodynamics.Unfortunately it is not only in Spain that such problems exist; world wide there so much that should be kept and too little to keep it. For example see this UNESCO list of World Heritage in Danger
@Anniesantiago I would love to read articles like this, but I am unwilling to pay for a subscription just to read an article or two a month that someone links. I wish the big-time media would allow non-subscribers to read a limited number of articles per month for free. Many smaller newspapers and magazines do this. Who knows, perhaps some of us would be enticed by the content to subscribe.I couldn't read this without a subscription...
I couldn't read this without a subscription. However, I'm pretty sure I saw this story over a year ago. It was a mess if I recall.
The NYT allows subscribers to share up to ten articles per month with non-subscribers.@Anniesantiago I would love to read articles like this, but I am unwilling to pay for a subscription just to read an article or two a month that someone links. I wish the big-time media would allow non-subscribers to read a limited number of articles per month for free. Many smaller newspapers and magazines do this. Who knows, perhaps some of us would be enticed by the content to subscribe.
Another building ruin in Spain, just a few centuries newer.
Actually, I am posting this in the hopes I will be able to learn how to share an article with non-subscribers.
Haunting the Coast of Spain: The Ghost Hotel of Algarrobico
For almost two decades, the hulk of a never-finished hotel has marred an idyllic coastline in southern Spain. Its fate remains cloudy, but the lesson is clear: It’s easier to damage the environment than to fix it.www.nytimes.com
Will a non-subscriber tell me if you can see this article? I guess it has to be someone who has been blocked by the paywall.
I used a browser in which I'm not signed into the NYT and I was able to open it. As you can see the URL includes "unlocked_article."Another building ruin in Spain, just a few centuries newer.
Actually, I am posting this in the hopes I will be able to learn how to share an article with non-subscribers.
Haunting the Coast of Spain: The Ghost Hotel of Algarrobico
For almost two decades, the hulk of a never-finished hotel has marred an idyllic coastline in southern Spain. Its fate remains cloudy, but the lesson is clear: It’s easier to damage the environment than to fix it.www.nytimes.com
Will a non-subscriber tell me if you can see this article? I guess it has to be someone who has been blocked by the paywall.
Yes, it works. Thanks to @trecile for the demo.Will a non-subscriber tell me if you can see this article? I guess it has to be someone who has been blocked by the paywall.
these are the basic principles here in England- I'd be surprised if the Spanish ones differ much.That sounds like a good idea as well. In my experience with these projects it often depends on what protocols whoever is supervising the work believes In. I’m usually just a worker bee.
I think what’s a bit funny about this whole article is that there’s this great mystery about who performed the work. Of course it was someone local who had a great interest in the church. People know, But they’re just not saying.
As others have said the article is now visible. I would normally not mention this but I am as I can add that I recently accidentally hit the link to the article and was denied access to the full article.Will a non-subscriber tell me if you can see this article? I guess it has to be someone who has been blocked by the paywall.
On this topic, here is a possibly less guilt-inducing way of subscribing to the New York Times. I started subscribing almost two years ago because I saw a deal for $2/month for one year, which I think is tremendous value. At the end of the year, they asked me to renew for the normal price (I don't remember what it was, but perhaps $8/month). I declined and thought that was the end of it. But then they offered me my original deal again, so I gladly accepted it for one more year.I hesitate to pass this along as I don’t wish to pass along ways to pinch news…but there it is.
As one who noted the inability to read the article without a subscription, I'd like to thank the Times subscriber who shared the unlocked article. ¡Muchas gracias!The NYT allows subscribers to share up to ten articles per month with non-subscribers.
This link should allow you to read without a subscription.
A Spanish Mystery: Is a ‘Masked Restorer’ to Blame for a Church’s Botched Repair?
Yet another imprudent fix in a land plagued by vigilante handymen led to angry calls to find the culprit — and to a soul-searching question: Does Spain just have too much history in need of upkeep?www.nytimes.com
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What I do is a slight alteration on that. They offered me a one dollar a week subscription, going up to four dollars a week at the end of the year. I just called them up and threatened to cancel it unless they extend it for another year. And they did it. Hopefully I can keep that up for a while, because I think four dollars a week is a little too much for digital content. The New York Times is nice, but I’m not going die without it.On this topic, here is a possibly less guilt-inducing way of subscribing to the New York Times. I started subscribing almost two years ago because I saw a deal for $2/month for one year, which I think is tremendous value. At the end of the year, they asked me to renew for the normal price (I don't remember what it was, but perhaps $8/month). I declined and thought that was the end of it. But then they offered me my original deal again, so I gladly accepted it for one more year.
If non-subscribers are interested in subscribing at that rate, look for a discount ad or maybe even go through the process of signing up at the normal rate but don't follow through with the final payment and they may come back and offer you the discount.
I agree with you, I think that sometimes small interventions to save something from collapsing is the way to go. A necessity.It is certain that those who sometimes do very wrong things do so with their best intention and with the limited means at their disposal.
Sometimes they have to put some very ugly cement between two stones thinking that that way they hold them and the deterioration does not increase.
You may also want to check to see if your local public library has a NYT e-subscription available to members. I know, for example, that the Toronto Public Library (membership free to anyone who lives, works, or owns property in Toronto) has a subscription available to all members. Other public libraries may be similar.What I do is a slight alteration on that. They offered me a one dollar a week subscription, going up to four dollars a week at the end of the year. I just called them up and threatened to cancel it unless they extend it for another year. And they did it. Hopefully I can keep that up for a while, because I think four dollars a week is a little too much for digital content. The New York Times is nice, but I’m not going die without it.
I can also get past the firewall using the private mode with the Brave browser on Apple IOS products.
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