Dulcidio Gonzalez
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Hopefully September 2015
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What did you wind up with?I narrowed down my search by not looking at any pack over 2lbs. empty.
How much does it weigh? I love Osprey. My Gregory weighed 2 lbs and 10 oz.I love my Osprey Tallon 33 liter. Have used it on two walks now.
Wow!! That is impressive. I must look for one. That's almost a whole bottle of water lighter than my Gregory Jade. Thank you.Cher, 1 lb. 12 oz.
It is an osprey talon 33, discussed earlier on this thread.Do you know the model name?
A 50 liter backpack sounds too big. You could easily use one less than 40 liters. I used a 48 liter backpack last summer on the Camino and it was too big. I could have easily used one around 32-35 liters in size.
In my opinion the weight of the backpack empty is less important than the weight of it full. I would say for either a man or woman, try to keep your backpack under 10 kilos in weight when full.
1. It depends. Backpack weights vary significantly, depending on factors like harness design, pack material thickness, etc. The Camino does not need a robust pack which is going to withstand rough use, and packs with lighter materials and construction survive quite well.1. How much does the backpack has to weight empty?
2. Is it OK if it's a 3 pounds BP? Empty off course!
3. How much does the backpack has to weight Full (Men) ? To be Comfortable.
4. How much does the backpack has to weight Full (Women) ? To be Comfortable.
4. Brand Suggestions?
5 Size Suggestions? 32 Lt, 38 Lt, 42 Lt and so on.
6 I already went to a North Face Store and liked a 50 Lt. I wore it for the hour that I was at the Store, but weights 3.1 pounds per detail information on the web. The heaviest the backpack, the less things will be able to pack!
Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my question. Buen Camino!
Yeah, sounds like you carried way more stuff than I did.I'm going to disagree with you that a 50 liter pack is too big. I took a 48 liter pack (Probably the same one as you) on the Camino and found it was too small. Once I got my clothes and sleeping bag inside, there was little room for anything else. I had to use compression sacks to fit everything. Because of this, I basically had 2 bowling balls in my pack and using the little room I had left, I found there was only 1 way to pack all my gear in my bag that would keep the compression sacks centered. If I had 5 or 10 more liters to play with, I could have used just regular stuff sacks to better distribute the weight.
Comfort over weight, every single time. Above everything else, you need a pack that is comfortable to wear all day everyday for the duration of your Camino. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'd rather carry around 50 pounds in well-fitting pack than 20 pounds in an ill-fitting pack.
hi mark,,you stated no rucksack,,i,m leaving for my 1st camino in a month,,jus wandering wether i need 1 ?Yeah, sounds like you carried way more stuff than I did.
I had no sleeping bag or even a liner on my last Camino. Only had 1 pair of long pants, 2 pairs of shorts, 2 short sleeve t-shirts, 1 long sleeve t-shirt, 3 pair underwear, lightweight rain jacket, cap, hiking towel, hiking shoes, sandals, 3 pairs of socks, a few toiletries and such, camera, phone and guidebook. That's total gear combined and when you remove whatever I was wearing from the list it only fills up about half the pack uncompressed.
THANK YOU very much for your detail answer.As you will read elsewhere, it really comes down to what feels best for you. I think Osprey is a great product, but once I tried on all the options, I realized Gregory was the best for me. All of the most comfortable options (for me) were about the 2.10 -3.0 lbs weight. So I realized weight of the pack was not the deciding factor.
I settled on the Gregory J38 - I started with a J65 and it was just way too big in terms of volume. I think there is plenty of extra room with only 38L (if the 33L was an option, I would have purchased it). I bought the Gregory because the fame was the most comfortable on my back. I liked the space between the frame and my back for temp control and for me, it supports weights the best on my body.
Go try them all on and take a sample of you "worst case scenario" packing items and see if they all fit.
Happy hunting!
I had an REI 48L Crestrail pack. Good pack, but too big for the stuff I had in it. Could have gotten away with one around 35L.hi mark,,you stated no rucksack,,i,m leaving for my 1st camino in a month,,jus wandering wether i need 1 ?
As everyone has said -- it totally depends and you can see that lots of folks do things differently. I took an REI Flash 50 pack for an April Camino in 2013. I carried about 8 kilos including a sleeping bag and not including water or snacks. I carried a long sleeve fleece, mittens, long underwear, fleece hat, etc. I was fine. But I decided I wanted to carry less. For my upcoming Camino I am carrying and Osprey Kestral (yes its a men's pack, I know, but the length was good and the hip belt fit me better than the women's version). Mine is a size small which is just over 30 liters. I can comfortably get all my gear in it. I am carrying a 13 oz. Sea to Summit Travel sack instead of my sleeping bag and only a fleece vest, no long underwear, etc . My total pack weight is about 5.5 kilos.Buen Camino! ( You can write either English or Spanish) witch best works for you.
This is my first post and i have read a lot of information about backpacks on this site, but I'm still haven't decide what should my wife and I purchase for our Camino this year.
1. How much does the backpack has to weight empty?
2. Is it OK if it's a 3 pounds BP? Empty off course!
3. How much does the backpack has to weight Full (Men) ? To be Comfortable.
4. How much does the backpack has to weight Full (Women) ? To be Comfortable.
4. Brand Suggestions?
5 Size Suggestions? 32 Lt, 38 Lt, 42 Lt and so on.
6 I already went to a North Face Store and liked a 50 Lt. I wore it for the hour that I was at the Store, but weights 3.1 pounds per detail information on the web. The heaviest the backpack, the less things will be able to pack!
Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my question. Buen Camino!
ahh,i meant sleeping bag,,doh....but you answered the Q,,thanks markI had an REI 48L Crestrail pack. Good pack, but too big for the stuff I had in it. Could have gotten away with one around 35L.
By the way, I do recommend taking at least a sleeping bag liner. In retrospect I would have taken one, small and lightweight.
I've tried to make a similar point about pack sizes and suspension systems.last week checked out the new antigravity (AG) suspension what Osprey introduced this year in Atmos/Aura packs. have to say I was pretty impressed. the packs are heavier than before, but feel very, very comfortable. compared both Atmos 65 AG and my old Osprey Stratos 34 loaded with 12kg. I like Stratos very much, but Atmos was a clear winner. may be they are kind of overkill for camino walking, but now I feel strong temptation to get one for this year hiking holidays. . .
Everything I have seen about the ZPacks is great, the biggest drawbacks I have with them are the high price. I know you pay for quality and pay for the fabric and carbon fiber technology, but I don't think most people are willing to spend that much $$$ for a pack unless they are committed backpackers.My Z Pack with two extra pockets is 52 liters fully expanded and weighs 1 lb 4 oz. It has sealed seams and does not need a rain cover. It has a full suspension and is comfortable as a pack can be at 30 lbs, the most I've had in it.
I don't think most people are willing to spend that much $$$ for a pack unless they are committed backpackers.
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which model do you recommend? Problem i have with zpacks is that i cannot try the different models and they have a long waiting period. I have a big upper/belly and don't know which harness will fit best?Or just getting older and relying technology to stave off the decline for a few years! I shutter to think about the loads I carried when I was young.
I'm going to have to throw out a huge CAUTION warning to folks.. . . I know they all differ slightly, but for example, American Airlines 22" x 14" x 9" equals 45 liters (more or less). So.... bigger than 45 L might need to be squeezed in and smaller ought to work just about everywhere. . .
Both my Gregory 35 and my son's Gregory 40 squeezed into the Ryanair bag sizer - like you say length being the contentious issue.I'm going to have to throw out a huge CAUTION warning to folks.
While your estimate may be correct on the volume, that does not effectively translate into backpack liter size.
Just happened to throw a tape measure on my 45 Liter backpack about 2 weeks ago and found out that it is 27" tall, or long. That means that by "volume" my pack will fit, but by length it still does not qualify as a "carry-on" bag with the airlines.
Many of the airlines have a bag sizer at the gate, it is basically a fit/no-fit gauge for travellers. Now I might be able to sneak by 45 liter pack onto a flight, but if I have to put it into the bag sizer then its a no go. Similarly my daughter's 35liter internal frame backpack would also be a no-go, but only by about an inch or so. Probably could pretty easily sneak that onto a flight.
And that is why I wanted to throw out that word of caution.. . . like you say length being the contentious issue. . .
And that is why I wanted to throw out that word of caution.
Depending upon the pack design, length can cause you grief. Alpine style packs are typically very long and narrow. Bookbags are typically squat and wide. Daypacks can vary anywhere in between.
I'd really hate to see someone try to fly with all their belonging in carry-on only to have their backpack, thrown into cargo, unprotected, at the gate.
Backpacks can survive the cargo hold, but its recommended to wrap them in shrink wrap (commercial Saran wrap) to contain the straps/belts, etc or to throw them into a cheap duffle bag that can be packed and carried, donated, or mailed ahead for a return trip.
There are packs intended for carry on use. Many are horrible if you intend to carry it for any distance. But they maximize space allowed by the airlines. Tend to be light. Have features to make security easier. But they give up things like hip belts,access points etc.
Hiking packs aren't often designed for carry on use. So they aren't optimized for airline rules.
Some backpack companies (for example Gregory) make packs aimed at carry on use. But unless you often have a need for a carry on it's likely better to pick a "normal" pack and check it.
In September I walked with someone who had one of those dedicated carry-on bags. He hated it and we spent an afternoon in Logroño buying him a new bag.
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