- Time of past OR future Camino
- 12/23
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You can go ahead and walk over the Pyrenees any time you choose. Only a few miles further south-east of the Route Napoleon people will be out climbing and walking at their own risk in challenging winter conditions.I’m planning to start the CF the beginning of the 2nd week of December. I read it is mandatory to take the alternative winter route! I understand why but winter doesn’t officially begin till December 21. So, when does it become mandatory/winter? I’m experienced in winter hiking/camping and hiked the Appalachian trail twice and lived 10 years on the Canadian border, so I’m capable and won’t need someone to come rescue me. I don’t expect anything to be open before Roncevaille and can easily carry enough supplies to last 4 or 5 days.
No, there is no option for a special permit. This option was considered when the law about the closure of the Napoleon trail was introduced during the first year but it was never implemented and it is not an option.I believe there is a loophole which allows for a special permit to be obtained but that is probably more trouble than it is worth
I don't know why this is even being brought up. You visit a foreign country. You respect the laws of this country. Spanish law says that their section of the eastern Camino trail ("Route Napoleon") is closed from 1 November until 31 March. It's the law. Respect it. No matter what the weather is like, no matter what your level of experience is. It does not matter. The legal closure applies to each and every pilgrim without exception.Yes you could take that trail, but if you need to be rescued by the Spanish authorities you could be up for a fine of more than 5000 Euros (plus the cost of said rescue).
I don't think so. I have experience from winter training in the Norwegian army in Arctic Norway. I have been an instructor for Nato soldiers on how to survive in winter warfare. I would never dream of crossing the Pyrenees 2nd week of December. If you still do and then need rescue, you will have to pay for it, seriously. For a good reason: You will have behaved recklessly, putting not only yourself, but also rescue teams, in danger.I’m experienced in winter hiking/camping and hiked the Appalachian trail twice and lived 10 years on the Canadian border, so I’m capable and won’t need someone to come rescue me.
Thanks Robb but I know from having been around certain hiking communities there are some who, at the very least, are self ascribed know it alls and rub it in the faces of people who ask a straightforward question.Well, there's another new member who won't be back.........
Thanks for your gracious response after you received some pretty harsh answers.Thanks Robb but I know from having been around certain hiking communities there are some who, at the very least, are self ascribed know it alls and rub it in the faces of people who ask a straightforward question.
Suffice to say, the pertinent takeaways from these answers are; an actual law and specific timeframe (my research hadn’t mentioned that, so in doing my due diligence, I inquired here) there is a significant fine and additional costs if I did need to be rescued, if that were the case I could put rescuers and in harms way, the weather at that altitude and location is extremely unpredictable and a couple lesser concerns, as well.
If there is a law and specific timeframe, end of story, enough said. It’s safe to say there’s very good reason for the law and the timeframe and I’m law abiding regardless of what country I’m in!
I doubt I’d post any other questions and simply dig way deeper when a question does arise. I’ll continue to be a member for now and when I do post from the various Caminos, it will just be the occasional photo thanks for the answer to my question Camino community. I very much appreciate your input and insights.
Buen Camino
Thanks Robb but I know from having been around certain hiking communities there are some who, at the very least, are self ascribed know it alls and rub it in the faces of people who ask a straightforward question.
Suffice to say, the pertinent takeaways from these answers are; an actual law and specific timeframe (my research hadn’t mentioned that, so in doing my due diligence, I inquired here) there is a significant fine and additional costs if I did need to be rescued, if that were the case I could put rescuers and in harms way, the weather at that altitude and location is extremely unpredictable and a couple lesser concerns, as well.
If there is a law and specific timeframe, end of story, enough said. It’s safe to say there’s very good reason for the law and the timeframe and I’m law abiding regardless of what country I’m in!
I doubt I’d post any other questions and simply dig way deeper when a question does arise. I’ll continue to be a member for now and when I do post from the various Caminos, it will just be the occasional photo thanks for the answer to my question Camino community. I very much appreciate your input and insights.
Buen Camino
The answer lies in the original question. The OP knows what he's doing. He's not someone that's only ever walked the Camino, He's an experienced backwoods hiker, with experience walking in snow etc. Any half decent hiker with a background like that would carry a minimum of an extra couple of days of food, so that should an unforeseen event such as a full-blown storm come through he would not need rescue. Unlike many first questions from new members he gave us all the information we needed to give him a reasonable answer (rather than a lecture.).Why do you think it is relevant that you can carry supplies for 4 or 5 days on a route which most people of average fitness can easily walk in a single day?
There are also times outside of the stated dates when bad weather conditions can cause the closure of that route.Thanks Robb but I know from having been around certain hiking communities there are some who, at the very least, are self ascribed know it alls and rub it in the faces of people who ask a straightforward question.
Suffice to say, the pertinent takeaways from these answers are; an actual law and specific timeframe (my research hadn’t mentioned that, so in doing my due diligence, I inquired here) there is a significant fine and additional costs if I did need to be rescued, if that were the case I could put rescuers and in harms way, the weather at that altitude and location is extremely unpredictable and a couple lesser concerns, as well.
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