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Live - Finisterre, Muxia Anybody recognize this symbol?

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André Walker

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The left and right part only indicate which direction to go.

The part in the middle means the pilgrim has to jump up and down a couple of times, stretching the arms and legs:

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Derrybiketours

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My guess that it's subliminal advertising by a business or an Albergue. Or maybe it's a sign that only you can see. Whilst walking from Porto every day this sign followed me around, I too was curious as to what it meant. Guess it's just another magical unexplained mystery of the Camino or subliminal advertising, you choose 🤠IMG_20181124_095646419.jpg
 

Aesklepius

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Camino Frances: St Jean Pied-de-Port to Santiago, on to Fisterra, Muxia and back to Santiago. (April-June 2016)
The explanation that sticks in my mind (I have no idea where I heard it, and no reference for it - possibly Brierly’s Camino Finisterra guidebook) is that the circle represents Santiago de Compostela and that the lines indicate that “all paths lead to SdC”. The arrow fletchings, of course, indicate the direction in which to walk at that moment. The double fletching points to Santiago. I saw this particular symbol only on the portions of the Camino between Fistera/Muxia and SdC - no idea why it relates to the Camino Finisterre only. Buen Camino!
 
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Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking.
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My guess that it's subliminal advertising by a business or an Albergue. Or maybe it's a sign that only you can see. Whilst walking from Porto every day this sign followed me around, I too was curious as to what it meant. Guess it's just another magical unexplained mystery of the Camino or subliminal advertising, you choose 🤠View attachment 59597
Looks like a photoshop image to me...just sayin'! 😉
 

Derrybiketours

A journey of 500 miles begins with one step!
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SJPdP-SANT-FIN (09/2018)
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Looks like a photoshop image to me...just sayin'! 😉
You could be right although it appeared to be square aluminium background sprayed red and stencil of what looks like moon in white. I thought it was clever way to advertise Albergue of cafe in a subliminal way and it worked apart from it led nowhere and stopped before Santiago. Although it did put me in mind of chocolate and I had craven for well known bar that helps you walk, rest and play 🤠
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking.
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Frances 2015;
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Frances 2017;
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Wow, Derry, I thought you did the photoshopping as the whole thing looked like it. Now I know it really is real and attached to that tree!
 

t2andreo

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Seen in Roxos on the way to Finisterre, a couple km outside of Santiago. Would love more information if you've got it. Thanks!View attachment 59572
To me it is an anagram or symbol that literally says that many Camino routes coincide or culminate at Santiago (the circle / cross at the the center likely represents the Apostles’ Tomb at the Cathedral), but the Camino continues, on to Finisterre. The arrow likely points to Finisterre.

At least that is the message I take from this symbol. The way I see it, bit to the left of the cross & circle is a linear representation of the classic Camino de Santiago ‘concha’ or scallop shell. The circle and cross represents the relics at the cathedral - also the target (if you will, see the “crosshairs”). Then the arrow points to the literal end (of the earth) at Finisterre.

Hope this helps.
 

Kathar1na

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Santiago and beyond (own way - voie de Tours - camino francés - Biskaya - Manche)
Seen in Roxos on the way to Finisterre, a couple km outside of Santiago.
This is an area with petroglyphs and with walks leading to them. I wonder whether this is a waymarker for such a route or pointing to such a site. Not everything has to do with pilgrims and pilgrimage routes. There is an interpretation centre in Villestro which is close to Roxos and their logo resembles the symbol in your photo.

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Camino Frances, 2015
Maybe it is
Utility Graffiti

[ See video at https://wakey.io/42/ ]

Hobos used to leave chalk pictograms all over the country, showing fellow travelers where they could find a hot meal and how to avoid trouble.

We rely on a rainbow of graffiti to identify buried pipes & cables. It may look like gibberish, but those arrows & flags can be the difference between life, death, and a weekend Netflix outage.
 

Kathar1na

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buried pipes & cables
I don't have a clue what it is but your suggestion makes sense to me. Indicates the direction of a flow of some kind and some regulating device in the middle?

The symbol looks oddly familiar.
 
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t2andreo

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I have tried to search for utility marking symbols used in Spain. So far, nothing even remotely resembling the above symbol.
 

Derrybiketours

A journey of 500 miles begins with one step!
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SJPdP-SANT-FIN (09/2018)
PORTO-SANT (11/2018)
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*Derry-SANT (09/2019)?
We rely on a rainbow of graffiti to identify buried pipes & cables
Nice theory but marking looks a little to symmetrical and precise to be utility marking that from your video and experience are more haphazardly produced but nice suggestion and interesting vid 🤠
 

Jeff Crawley

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Thank you!
Still none the wiser though. It's the kind of marking I would have used on a utility survey to show a manhole and the layout of the pipes entering and leaving except I would have used white paint. There are manhole covers showing but power and telecomms appear to be above ground and, judging from a Google Earth "walk through" there's nothing in the village that suggests a bar.
The plot thickens!
 

Raggy

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Camino Mozarabe Almeria (2017)
Cherhill to Canterbury - Pilgrims' Way (2018)
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Seen in Roxos on the way to Finisterre, a couple km outside of Santiago. Would love more information if you've got it. Thanks!
It reminds me of astrology symbols - Earth / Mercury / Neptune. Maybe it means "This is the way to the sunset."
The road out of Santiago toward Finisterre is full of people's peculiar doodles - Keith Haring style pop art, "inspirational" doggerel, band logos, and tags. My guess is that this is one of them. It is quite neatly done, so I guess it was drawn with some kind of template.
 
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Frances: Ponferrada - SdC (October 2017)
Frances: SJPdP - SdC (10th April 2020)
I would be inclined to suggest a surveying mark. Although I'd be more convinced if there were a brass pin in the centre.
A cross with the centre missing and a circle are common markers indicating a survey point.
A flat line with legs is often used as a marker of a benchmark for elevation.
Whether those markers are universal, I don't know.
 
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Camino Frances, 2015
I would be inclined to suggest a surveying mark. Although I'd be more convinced if there were a brass pin in the centre.
A cross with the centre missing and a circle are common markers indicating a survey point.
A flat line with legs is often used as a marker of a benchmark for elevation.
Whether those markers are universal, I don't know.
Maybe a brass marker with data is supposed to be there but because it is in the road the arrows are pointing to the location where the metal marker is.
???
 

Kathar1na

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I wonder whether there are (local) guys out there who amuse themselves with creating mysterious drawings just to drive enquiring pilgrim minds nuts :). There are some more artistically looking "rock paintings" elsewhere on the camino francés that nobody here has been able to explain yet. My guess is still that they are the result of some kind of art happening.

So with all the comments in the thread so far, what I now "see" is the description of two flows and a device that allows one flow to go from left to right and another one in a perpendicular direction, depending on the status of the device. Or just the location where two different flows cross without interaction. Grrrr ... ;). @ja2z20, is this painted on the road, on a pavement or on a wall?

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Kathar1na

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and, judging from a Google Earth "walk through" there's nothing in the village that suggests a bar.
Screenshot 2019-06-21 at 14.31.59.png

Vinos - Tapas - Bocadillos. Just the place in Roxos for a pilgrim to stop and investigate the Mystery of the Symbol :).
 

Jeff Crawley

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Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
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I wonder whether there are (local) guys out there who amuse themselves with creating mysterious drawings just to drive enquiring pilgrim minds nuts :). There are some more artistically looking "rock paintings" elsewhere on the camino francés that nobody here has been able to explain yet. My guess is still that they are the result of some kind of art happening.

So with all the comments in the thread so far, what I now "see" is the description of two flows and a device that allows one flow to go from left to right and another one in a perpendicular direction, depending on the status of the device. Or just the location where two different flows cross without interaction. Grrrr ... ;). @ja2z20, is this painted on the road, on a pavement or on a wall?

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Last Spring when I did the CI I went off-piste (deliberately) one day and was amazed to find one road junction plastered with yellow arrow - slowly it dawned on me that they were markings for the local cycle club (little bikes and START and FINISH marks, oddly in English!)
Don't forget the origin of our familiar yellow arrows was a priest who had cadged some road marking paint!
 

Jeff Crawley

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Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
The more I think about it the more I like the notion of bike navigation markings:

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Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
I wonder whether there are (local) guys out there who amuse themselves with creating mysterious drawings just to drive enquiring pilgrim minds nuts :). There are some more artistically looking "rock paintings" elsewhere on the camino francés that nobody here has been able to explain yet. My guess is still that they are the result of some kind of art happening.

So with all the comments in the thread so far, what I now "see" is the description of two flows and a device that allows one flow to go from left to right and another one in a perpendicular direction, depending on the status of the device. Or just the location where two different flows cross without interaction. Grrrr ... ;). @ja2z20, is this painted on the road, on a pavement or on a wall?

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KSO (keep straight on) at cross roads? TL (or TR) Turn Left (or Turn Right) at this point?
 

Kathar1na

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Santiago and beyond (own way - voie de Tours - camino francés - Biskaya - Manche)
petroglyphs in the area
And you are literally walking right past some of those petroglyphs near Roxos!

The image below shows the walking route from Santiago to Finisterre in purple. A local archaeology group took local school kids on an outing last year, their route is marked in yellow.

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Camino Francés (1974 + others)
I just walked to Muxía and Finisterre a few weeks ago and saw these markings as well. They always pointed to Santiago, so I thought that they were for those walking back to Santiago.
 

Bob Howard

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Frances 2016
Frances 2018
That marking was in an early Twilight Zone episode in which a U.S. spacecraft crashes on Mars, and the crew find themselves seeing that symbol along what appears to be a path. It soon becomes clear that the space ship crew has stumbled upon the Martian Camino, and so they start walking and following the symbols and finally arrive at . . . . well, I don't want to spoil it for those that haven't seen it, or remember it.
 

Stephen Nicholls

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That marking was in an early Twilight Zone episode in which a U.S. spacecraft crashes on Mars, and the crew find themselves seeing that symbol along what appears to be a path. It soon becomes clear that the space ship crew has stumbled upon the Martian Camino, and so they start walking and following the symbols and finally arrive at . . . . well, I don't want to spoil it for those that haven't seen it, or remember it.
NO! I feel Camino number ten calling. Can you get to Mars using Ryanair?
 

Jeff Crawley

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Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
That marking was in an early Twilight Zone episode in which a U.S. spacecraft crashes on Mars, and the crew find themselves seeing that symbol along what appears to be a path. It soon becomes clear that the space ship crew has stumbled upon the Martian Camino, and so they start walking and following the symbols and finally arrive at . . . . well, I don't want to spoil it for those that haven't seen it, or remember it.
They could certainly form the basis for one of those weird facts "documentaries" . . . Strange Signs Along The Camino - Could They Be A Message From Outer Space? * where they spend an hour postulating that they are navigation markers for ETs/tribal markings from some cabalistic sect/pointers to the location of a buried Inca treasure/clues to the whereabouts of looted Nazi gold dredged up from a sunken U-boat before concluding that no, they have no idea what they are either!

* following the Betteridge Law of Headlines the answer is NO!
 

Jeff Crawley

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Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
That marking was in an early Twilight Zone episode in which a U.S. spacecraft crashes on Mars, and the crew find themselves seeing that symbol along what appears to be a path. It soon becomes clear that the space ship crew has stumbled upon the Martian Camino, and so they start walking and following the symbols and finally arrive at . . . . well, I don't want to spoil it for those that haven't seen it, or remember it.
That would be the Martian Sheen Camino "The Milky Way"?
 

oldman

oldman
Camino(s) past & future
C/Frances. SJPP - Estella May 2009.
C/frances. SJPP - Santiago April/ May 2013.
C/Finisterre. Santiag - Finisterre - Muxia May 2013.
C/Ingles. Ferrol - Santiago May 2013.
C/Frances. SJPP - Santiago May - June 2015.
C/Finisterre. Santiago - Muxia - Finisrerre - Cee. June 2015.
C/Frances. Logrono - Burgos May 2016.
My guess that it's subliminal advertising by a business or an Albergue. Or maybe it's a sign that only you can see. Whilst walking from Porto every day this sign followed me around, I too was curious as to what it meant. Guess it's just another magical unexplained mystery of the Camino or subliminal advertising, you choose 🤠View attachment 59597
No Hunting without the Consent of Owners ( square red sign with points facing up/ down /left /right with a white circle )
 

Derrybiketours

A journey of 500 miles begins with one step!
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP-SANT-FIN (09/2018)
PORTO-SANT (11/2018)
Caminho Da Fe (01/2019)
*Derry-SANT (09/2019)?
@oldman appreciate the explanation of sign but surprised there's no pictorial information referencing the shape of a gun or a prohibited diagonal line but accept what you're saying 🤠🙏
 

oldman

oldman
Camino(s) past & future
C/Frances. SJPP - Estella May 2009.
C/frances. SJPP - Santiago April/ May 2013.
C/Finisterre. Santiag - Finisterre - Muxia May 2013.
C/Ingles. Ferrol - Santiago May 2013.
C/Frances. SJPP - Santiago May - June 2015.
C/Finisterre. Santiago - Muxia - Finisrerre - Cee. June 2015.
C/Frances. Logrono - Burgos May 2016.
I would have suggested that you google that very site but I see you found it yourself. they have no need to show pictures or symbols of guns they all know what they are from childhood. you might also check out this in case you ever wounded what all those little bird of black and white metal signs and sometimes painted on rocks all over rural Spain are. https://www.spainbuddy.com/hunting-signs-in-spain/
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but 2019?
No Hunting without the Consent of Owners ( square red sign with points facing up/ down /left /right with a white circle )
I've seen signs with a similar meaning in the US - but they're usually perforated with bullet holes!

Edit: and having just looked at SpainBuddy I see Spain is no different! Good website thank you for the heads up.
 

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