M&M from OZ
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I have never treated my bedding or equipment with Permethrin and never been bitten by bedbugs on Camino. So I would answer (1) as a definite "no" and (2) as "I've never checked". Others in the forum swear by its use. You are likely to get a mix of answers which will probably bring you no closer to a decision.Hi fellow Pilgrims.
This our first Camino starting 27 April. We are probably asking a question that had already been answered.
We understand Bed Bugs can be a problem and we should treat our equipment with Permethrin before commencing our walk.
Our questions are:
1. Is this really necessary?
2. Is Permethrin available in SJPP?
We will be using a silk liner for use in the albergues and also a down blanket for the cold nights.
We are travelling from Australia and touring Europe before we start our walk. It would therefore be preferable that we buy and apply Permethrin just before we start.
Appreciate your experienced advice.
Michael and Margaret
You will find the entire gamut of bedbug experiences any place where pilgrims gather, from, “I did not treat my equipment and never saw a single bedbug,” to, “ I was bitten so badly I had an allergic reaction and had to go to the hospital/end my Camino and go home.” These and everything in between happen.Hi fellow Pilgrims.
This our first Camino starting 27 April. We are probably asking a question that had already been answered.
We understand Bed Bugs can be a problem and we should treat our equipment with Permethrin before commencing our walk.
Our questions are:
1. Is this really necessary?
2. Is Permethrin available in SJPP?
We will be using a silk liner for use in the albergues and also a down blanket for the cold nights.
We are travelling from Australia and touring Europe before we start our walk. It would therefore be preferable that we buy and apply Permethrin just before we start.
Appreciate your experienced advice.
Michael and Margaret
I question this, but of course it is always worth looking.They are relatively easy to see.
I'm sorry, but bed bugs can crawl out from their hiding places in the walls or bed frame right inside your sleeping bag and bite you before anything permethrin treated has any effect on them.Best thing to do is get a single sheet and spray it with Permethrin, then when you get to your albergue and pick your bunk, put the sheet on the mattress, then put the disposable sheet they give you on top of it, then your sleeping bag. I would also spray the sleeping bag outer as well and inside your rucksack. In the couple to few hours that sheet is on the mattress before you go to bed it should nuke anything insect wise that is in it or around it. Take it off the next morning and stuff it back in your rucksack
I've read a good amount of studies about bed bugs and agree with trecile's post quoted above.If you are planning to use permethrin to avoid bed bug bites, think again.
Permethrin does not deter bed bugs nor kill them on contact. They can crawl into your bag and get a quick meal. It does kill them with prolonged contact over a couple of hours. So if a bed bug did manage to get into your treated sleeping bag, it would probably not make it out alive. This is important because you don't want to transfer bed bugs from albergue to albergue or home!
You shouldn't need to carry it anywhere. Treat your things before you leave home.I would still like to know if we can buy permethrin in SJPP. It would be easier then us carrying it from OZ and around Europe before we start our Camino.
Ok, that’s good to know. We leave OZ on 14 March but don’t start our Camino until 27 April. So it may be the case of a need to re-apply it before we start.You shouldn't need to carry it anywhere. Treat your things before you leave home.
Thank you everyone for the advice. It is good to hear from experienced travellers and it is not surprising to receive a range of opinions.
Coming from Australia we are used to things that bite and sting or indeed take your leg off. But bed bugs are something we have never considered before. I think we will take the cautious approach and spray our backpacks and bedding.
I would still like to know if we can buy permethrin in SJPP. It would be easier then us carrying it from OZ and around Europe before we start our Camino.
Michael
I think that so long as you aren't washing the treated items often that it should last.Ok, that’s good to know. We leave OZ on 14 March but don’t start our Camino until 27 April. So it may be the case of a need to re-apply it before we start.
Hi Kanga, that’s good advice. Can you please tell us which product you used and where to source over here. Thanks.@M&M from OZ my stuff I also treat before I leave home (Sydney). I try (!) to pick a nice dry day, soak my silk sack and bedclothes, and spray my backpack inside and out, then let it all dry thoroughly. Once done I can't tell its been treated. No odour, no noticeable residue on anything.
Easiest to use is Equip which you can buy online in Australia. and lots of camping stores have it, eg Paddy Pallin. I did have it in a spray form but can't find where - but you could make it up and spray it on anyway.Hi Kanga, that’s good advice. Can you please tell us which product you used and where to source over here. Thanks.
You can definitely buy Permethrin in Australia, I usually get mine from Paddy Palin but if you don't live in Sydney ask for stuff to treat clothes etc against mozzies. You have to soak your stuff then let it dry out so don't leave it to the last minute. It's not a cast iron solution but definitely reduces the chances of your transferring the little b,,,,,ds to the next albergue or home. Having said that, I've walked about twelve camino routes and worked as a hospi but only ever seen dead bedbugs, and that not very often.We are travelling from Australia and touring Europe before we start our walk. It would therefore be preferable that we buy and apply Permethrin just before we start.
Hi, fellow Aussie here. I’m not sure if I encountered bedbugs on the Camino but… I did spray everything at the end and washed all cloth in 60 degrees at the laundromat at Santiago de Compostela. We were heading to a friend’s place in London and I didn’t want to take unwanted visitors. Buen Camino!Thank you everyone for the advice. It is good to hear from experienced travellers and it is not surprising to receive a range of opinions.
Coming from Australia we are used to things that bite and sting or indeed take your leg off. But bed bugs are something we have never considered before. I think we will take the cautious approach and spray our backpacks and bedding.
I would still like to know if we can buy permethrin in SJPP. It would be easier then us carrying it from OZ and around Europe before we start our Camino.
Michael
Hi, that's good to know. Still in two minds as to whether we spray our gear with Permethrin before leaving or not. Not long now before we start our Europe trip and getting down to the wire to do the spraying.Hi, fellow Aussie here. I’m not sure if I encountered bedbugs on the Camino but… I did spray everything at the end and washed all cloth in 60 degrees at the laundromat at Santiago de Compostela. We were heading to a friend’s place in London and I didn’t want to take unwanted visitors. Buen Camino!
https://www.gronze.com/camino-frances will give you all the information you require.
Carrion de los Condes to Calzadilla de la Cueza at 17.2 km is probably the longest gap between retail opportunities
My Bud , come on? You are out of line here , It was not my fault that I was bitten , it almost sounds as if I never showered and I was dirty and There was a young lady that I walked with and she was also bitten?before you even start associating with grubby Peregrinos
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