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`confusicus said:So my question is - Is it possible to bus some of the route?
It would be interested to know what you consider " making their way properly"? We have been hosting 120 young pilgrims from Nebraska in Christchurch who are on their way to the World Youth Day in Sydney for the past week. Most are billeted comfortably in host family homes here but there are others staying in school hall and sharing communal showers. We accept them as all pilgrims as a bed does not make a pilgrim.who are making their way properly and who really need that bed at the end of a long walk
Is this not a form of commercialisation?*you have given up posting on your blog until someone makes a donation. Isn't that counter productive?
Could not agree with you more, one of the first thing I did to save my wife from hanging about outside an albergue and ending up with a cold shower was to find hotels on the route. This was very difficult then as most Euro 15 to 25 per person per night accommodation were not listed in the CSJ or other lists. Things have changed now and every list of these alternative accommodation are now eagerly distributed by others and copied. Yes, we will walk, and also get a hotel room if there is one available. At the end of the day, we will not be judgmental, but feel it is our Camino, irrespective whether it is was done "properly" or not as considered by others.It is not fair. Go get a hotel room
WolverineDG said:Hmmm, what about Burgos? I'm considering starting there the next time, & will need a new credencial. I know the one on Lain Calvo won't let me stay there (since I won't have walked at least 20k that day), but what about the albergue in the park?
Kelly
Gareth Thomas said:I only just managed to get a bed in the albergue in León, and I saw that a whole bunch of people I overtook in Sahagún yesterday were already here! There are quite a number of people who are jumping on trains and buses routinely. ... it makes it more difficult for those who are making their way properly and who really need that bed at the end of a long walk!
Gareth
sillydoll said:However, if you apply this to pilgrims coming from afar (e.g. Pamplona to Leon) then likewise the folks who bus up to Roncesvalles should not sleep in the albergue because the walking pilgrims who have come from St Jean or beyond deserve the beds more. Or those who arrive in St Jean should book into a hotel because others have come from further back in France and so on.
Rebekah Scott said:"It´s a pilgrimage, after all. And it´s not raining, is it? I´d rather sleep under the stars than inside a little concrete room full of people snoring." `I slept outside last night and it was great to be away from the packed refugios and the snoring. At about three a.m. I crashed out in my sleeping bag under a tree, after doing an overnight walk to avoid the heat on the rather boring section between León and Astorga. The only trouble was, in the dark I managed to settle under a chestnut tree and the old prickly husks on the ground punctured my lightweight inflatable mat! (One thing less to carry, I suppose...)
Gareth
sillydoll said:I was following your progress on your blog but you say on your blog that you have given up posting on your blog until someone makes a donation. Isn't that counter productive? If people give up reading your blog because there are no new posts you might not get any more sponsorship for the Whizz-kids. .
sillydoll said:I think you mis-read Confuscius' post - he didn't ask it was OK to bus from place to place to place on the camino - only if it was possible to take a bus from Pamlpona to Leon and start his camino 'proper' from there.
NaKwendaSafari said:For Gareth:
Is this not a form of commercialisation?*you have given up posting on your blog until someone makes a donation. Isn't that counter productive?
Thanks Margaret. Hmm, wonder if they'll let a first-nighter stay there? If I'm early enough (or late enough) in the season, perhaps they will.Kelly, we were amongst the last pilgrims to stay in the albergue "in the park". The new municipal albergue was opening up in town within a few days of our stay (just behind the Cathedral), and they told us they were closing the one in the park down.
Margaret
The hospitaleros in Burgos were commenting on the number of people bussing into Burgos the last few kilometres.
falcon269 said:I do not think that very many on this forum think that supporting a charity is commercialism. Since my Caminos have been fairly self-centered, I was quite impressed with your outward extension. I wish you great success.
sillydoll said:We want to warn that possibly in September we will move to the new hostel located on the street Fernan Gonzalez, 28. You will not have difficulty in finding it is located on the Camino de Santiago path in the city.
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Your tired legs will grow wings on them now I am sure. The welcome at Rabanal gave me fresh vitality...and once I was on the top of O'Cebreiro, I could almost sniff Santiago in the air. The walk through Galicia became for me a very pleasant time thinking about the what the whole experience had meant for me (though I freaked out a little at the crowds on the first day out of Sarria...)Gareth Thomas said:Just a few kilometres to go now. I'm in Rabanal. Gareth
KiwiNomad06 said:You will be coming to the mountains again now Gareth, and I hope your spirit is rejuvenated there as mine was!
falcon269 said:Municipal and church albergues will enforce the rules on who may use refuges, but they need to know about pilgrims that use baggage services. Keep the hospitaleros/as informed. There are plenty of suitable hostals and hotels for the casual walker. Help them to use them by denying them albergue space, and help your fellow pilgrim by preserving beds for them. Private albergues are another matter ...
sillydoll said:If I only had three weeks and had set my heart on starting from St Jean I would walk 7 days to Logrono (about 165kms). From there I would get a bus to Leon - but not to start walking from there - I would have a look around, visit the cathedral and then get another bus to - perhaps Astorga (259kms to go) and walk from there to Santiago.
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