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Below is a map of Spain divided into its autonomous regions*.
* All the regions in the TWO DARK blues have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. This means you CANNOT ENTER or LEAVE the region unless you have a valid reason, such as work or medical issues. The darkest blue also indicates that within the region there are municipalities under lockdown as well.
* The two LIGHT blues indicate that the region does NOT have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. NONE of the autonomous communities that the FRENCH WAY (classic Camino) crosses are in LIGHT BLUES.
*To all effects, the CAMINO IS CLOSED right now in Spain, unless you are starting and walking in Galicia (ie. According to the Pilgrim's Office, 3 pilgrims arrived to Santiago in February)
This map may change by the start of the Camino season (April), although it is unlikely that all the lockdowns will disappear before May 9th, which is when the current state of alarm ends.
*Source: Ministry of Health. Government of Spain. March 1st, 2021.
The official EU website https://reopen.europa.eu/en gives details of who may enter which EU country. If you're a 'third country' the EU is effectively closed. However, that website will give all details - Spain, France, Portugal etc.Below is a map of Spain divided into its autonomous regions*.
* All the regions in the TWO DARK blues have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. This means you CANNOT ENTER or LEAVE the region unless you have a valid reason, such as work or medical issues. The darkest blue also indicates that within the region there are municipalities under lockdown as well.
* The two LIGHT blues indicate that the region does NOT have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. NONE of the autonomous communities that the FRENCH WAY (classic Camino) crosses are in LIGHT BLUES.
*To all effects, the CAMINO IS CLOSED right now in Spain, unless you are starting and walking in Galicia (ie. According to the Pilgrim's Office, 3 pilgrims arrived to Santiago in February)
This map may change by the start of the Camino season (April), although it is unlikely that all the lockdowns will disappear before May 9th, which is when the current state of alarm ends.
*Source: Ministry of Health. Government of Spain. March 1st, 2021.
The blue is giving me the blues.Below is a map of Spain divided into its autonomous regions*.
* All the regions in the TWO DARK blues have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. This means you CANNOT ENTER or LEAVE the region unless you have a valid reason, such as work or medical issues. The darkest blue also indicates that within the region there are municipalities under lockdown as well.
* The two LIGHT blues indicate that the region does NOT have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. NONE of the autonomous communities that the FRENCH WAY (classic Camino) crosses are in LIGHT BLUES.
*To all effects, the CAMINO IS CLOSED right now in Spain, unless you are starting and walking in Galicia (ie. According to the Pilgrim's Office, 3 pilgrims arrived to Santiago in February)
This map may change by the start of the Camino season (April), although it is unlikely that all the lockdowns will disappear before May 9th, which is when the current state of alarm ends.
*Source: Ministry of Health. Government of Spain. March 1st, 2021.
Thanks for the update. Do you have a link to the source so that people can follow it?Below is a map of Spain divided into its autonomous regions*.
* All the regions in the TWO DARK blues have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. This means you CANNOT ENTER or LEAVE the region unless you have a valid reason, such as work or medical issues. The darkest blue also indicates that within the region there are municipalities under lockdown as well.
* The two LIGHT blues indicate that the region does NOT have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. NONE of the autonomous communities that the FRENCH WAY (classic Camino) crosses are in LIGHT BLUES.
*To all effects, the CAMINO IS CLOSED right now in Spain, unless you are starting and walking in Galicia (ie. According to the Pilgrim's Office, 3 pilgrims arrived to Santiago in February)
This map may change by the start of the Camino season (April), although it is unlikely that all the lockdowns will disappear before May 9th, which is when the current state of alarm ends.
*Source: Ministry of Health. Government of Spain. March 1st, 2021.
How about rowing/sailing? The Irish have done it.That's really encouraging. Now all I have to do is teleport / apparate to Ferrol and I can walk Ferrol - Santiago - Fisterra - Muxia - Santiago - A Coruna claim two Compostellas, a Fisterrana and a Muxiana (and a well deserved Distance Certificate as well). Now, where did I put my Star Trek / Harry Potter manuals ?
I realise I could get a flight to A Coruna but no rational human being would want to indulge in international air travel at the moment would they? Seriously?
The one single exception to your well-made point is that those legally present in Castilla y León may cross into Galicia as foot pilgrims on the Way of Saint James. (oh, and I guess some locals in the Portuguese border Municipalities)Below is a map of Spain divided into its autonomous regions*.
* All the regions in the TWO DARK blues have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. This means you CANNOT ENTER or LEAVE the region unless you have a valid reason, such as work or medical issues. The darkest blue also indicates that within the region there are municipalities under lockdown as well.
* The two LIGHT blues indicate that the region does NOT have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. NONE of the autonomous communities that the FRENCH WAY (classic Camino) crosses are in LIGHT BLUES.
*To all effects, the CAMINO IS CLOSED right now in Spain, unless you are starting and walking in Galicia (ie. According to the Pilgrim's Office, 3 pilgrims arrived to Santiago in February)
Arrivals in both ports and airports are bound by identical travel restrictions.How about rowing/sailing? The Irish have done it.
What if you are vaccinated? Is it possible to travel in Spain if you have received the COVID-19 vaccination?Below is a map of Spain divided into its autonomous regions*.
* All the regions in the TWO DARK blues have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. This means you CANNOT ENTER or LEAVE the region unless you have a valid reason, such as work or medical issues. The darkest blue also indicates that within the region there are municipalities under lockdown as well.
* The two LIGHT blues indicate that the region does NOT have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. NONE of the autonomous communities that the FRENCH WAY (classic Camino) crosses are in LIGHT BLUES.
*To all effects, the CAMINO IS CLOSED right now in Spain, unless you are starting and walking in Galicia (ie. According to the Pilgrim's Office, 3 pilgrims arrived to Santiago in February)
This map may change by the start of the Camino season (April), although it is unlikely that all the lockdowns will disappear before May 9th, which is when the current state of alarm ends.
*Source: Ministry of Health. Government of Spain. March 1st, 2021.
https://www.mscbs.gob.es/profesiona...tasActual/nCov/estrategia/medidasPrevCCAA.htmThanks for the update. Do you have a link to the source so that people can follow it?
no, the vaccination does not allow you to breach regional perimeter lockdowns. that might happen by summer. apparently we can still spread the virus after getting vaccinated and not getting sick.What if you are vaccinated? Is it possible to travel in Spain if you have received the COVID-19 vaccination?
can i ask what your source is? i'm pretty sure there are currently no exceptions when crossing autonomous community borders, but i could be wrong.The one single exception to your well-made point is that those legally present in Castilla y León may cross into Galicia as foot pilgrims on the Way of Saint James. (oh, and I guess some locals in the Portuguese border Municipalities)
La Rioja has relaxed its perimeter lockdown, but no similar exceptional permission has been granted AFAIK to allow pilgrims to enter Castilla y León on foot from that region.
It is legal to enter Navarra from France by land travel (on foot for example), as the EU has insisted that its internal international borders must remain open ; so that given the current status of the relaxation of lockdowns here and there, if Castilla y León were to permit land travel from La Rioja, then a Camino starting in France (anywhere in France, which has no regional lockdowns as such) to Compostela would in the most technical and abstract manner become feasible.
Though likely with a good deal of bother from Police, and much sleeping outdoors.
I do suspect that restrictions will be eased further during March.
It's a long-standing exception, so sorry can't remember any of the original sources. But it's why there's still a small trickle of pilgrims from Castilla y León.can i ask what your source is? i'm pretty sure there are currently no exceptions when crossing autonomous community borders, but i could be wrong.
Those countries (and territory) each have their own particular rules.as for france and portugal (and andorra, gibraltar and morocco)
It actually varies greatly from one region to another, even one Municipality and another.sleeping outdoors on public land is illegal in most instances in spain; thankfully are farmers are usually pretty cool with trespassers.
It's a long-standing exception, so sorry can't remember any of the original sources. But it's why there's still a small trickle of pilgrims from Castilla y León.
They still can't enter any individual Municipality that is in lockdown, though they're allowed to bus through such places.
Those countries (and territory) each have their own particular rules.
It actually varies greatly from one region to another, even one Municipality and another.
And it's less the sleeping outdoors than the camping as such, with portable cooking facilities etc., particularly in the same spot for several days.
Too bad. Living here, I was definitely under a different impression, and that at the moment no travel of any kind (except for work, medical, etc... was allowed between Autonomous Communities). Indeed, only 3 pilgrims requested their Compostelas in February, two starting in Portugal and one in Galicia (O Cebreiro).
True, and at a regional level across Spain. Hard to keep up with the updates though. I'm off to Extremadura tomorrow just because its opened its perimeter and the town lockdowns as well.
Absolutely, and it's crazy. I can visit Andorra (though not ski) without any problems, but I cannot go to Toledo. Portugal has closed and opened its borders intermittently.
Yes and no. In any case, I would not encourage roughing it or sleeping outdoors (with or without a tent) along the Camino. You may get fined and it definitely is not fair for the locals, no matter how clean we are.
Cheers.
Unsurprising, given that nearly every Galician Municipality was in particular lockdown during February.Indeed, only 3 pilgrims requested their Compostelas in February, two starting in Portugal and one in Galicia (O Cebreiro).
first of all, yes, you can get fined. you probably won't, that's true. spaniards are pretty nice, even the police and guardia civil; but, if something is illegal, just because you are not sure it's illegal, is not an excuse.Your last point about sleeping outdoors on the Camino. You won't get fined and I don't understand why it is unfair on the locals. I have camped both with and without a tent on the camino's for years and never had a problem. In fact out of 8 caminos I would say I slept outside around a third of nights spent there. And the locals have all been supportive as have the police. I have not had one negative experience. Just don't litter or light a fire (ever) and you are fine. I wouldn't do it now under present conditions though.
Davey
Spain is approaching an Easter week with restrictions on movement between regions in place. The majority of regional governments are in favor of leaving perimetral lockdowns of their territories in place.
So you know what ?Below is a map of Spain divided into its autonomous regions*.
* All the regions in the TWO DARK blues have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. This means you CANNOT ENTER or LEAVE the region unless you have a valid reason, such as work or medical issues. The darkest blue also indicates that within the region there are municipalities under lockdown as well.
* The two LIGHT blues indicate that the region does NOT have a perimeter LOCKDOWN. NONE of the autonomous communities that the FRENCH WAY (classic Camino) crosses are in LIGHT BLUES.
*To all effects, the CAMINO IS CLOSED right now in Spain, unless you are starting and walking in Galicia (ie. According to the Pilgrim's Office, 3 pilgrims arrived to Santiago in February)
This map may change by the start of the Camino season (April), although it is unlikely that all the lockdowns will disappear before May 9th, which is when the current state of alarm ends.
*Source: Ministry of Health. Government of Spain. March 1st, 2021.
What possible relevance does camping have to the highlighted post or more importantly the OP .... which is entirely about current effective closure.Too bad. Living here, I was definitely under a different impression, and that at the moment no travel of any kind (except for work, medical, etc... was allowed between Autonomous Communities). Indeed, only 3 pilgrims requested their Compostelas in February, two starting in Portugal and one in Galicia (O Cebreiro).
True, and at a regional level across Spain. Hard to keep up with the updates though. I'm off to Extremadura tomorrow just because its opened its perimeter and the town lockdowns as well.
Absolutely, and it's crazy. I can visit Andorra (though not ski) without any problems, but I cannot go to Toledo. Portugal has closed and opened its borders intermittently.
Yes and no. In any case, I would not encourage roughing it or sleeping outdoors (with or without a tent) along the Camino. You may get fined and it definitely is not fair for the locals, no matter how clean we are.
Cheers.
It’s OK, nobody got hurt - it’s just the way that threads drift sometimes.What possible relevance does camping have to the highlighted post or more importantly the OP .... which is entirely about current effective closure.
Every time anyone even mentions pretty much anything that May have “camping/wild camping“ in it, immediately the posts go down the negative camping channel ... and it appears it is even negative to ops that do not in any way mention camping .... based on this response
i really don’t get it,
The OP is nothing to do with camping
Why do people hate camping anyway (when it could be done legally).... and why also, when it is isn’t relevant to the original post ?
why is the reaction to it so vitriolic when anyone attempts to get it discussed in any post ?
ps. These are rhetorical questions for outside consideration here and not to be replied to in a thread that bears no relationship to them.
i Just really do not understand why this again took a chunk of an unrelated OP.
i further don’t understand why the people here, despite professing being a pilgrim, seem to want to judge, criticise, demean a group of other pilgrims who would consider independent camping. I’m not saying wild camping, just camp sites. After all nobody Is demanding other have to join those people
We all appreciate your information so very much.no, the vaccination does not allow you to breach regional perimeter lockdowns. that might happen by summer. apparently we can still spread the virus after getting vaccinated and not getting sick.
however, i would rather not engage in another covid debate; the point of the original post was to offer an overview of the current situation in spain regarding travel within spain. i live here, so i hope to be back on the camino asap and avoiding air travel. cheers
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