domigee
Veteran Member
- Time of past OR future Camino
- 2022 CF
I am not sure what you mean Peter, age may mean you are more at risk yes , to yourself but... a risk to others? How?
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I am not sure what you mean Peter, age may mean you are more at risk yes , to yourself but... a risk to others? How?Your age place you in the high risk catogary and that said you are a risk for others.
Your age place you in the high risk catogary and that said you are a risk for others.
Prevention, here in the Netherlands, people above a certain age had to stay at home.I am not sure what you mean Peter, age may mean you are more at risk yes , to yourself but... a risk to others? How?
Prevention, here in the Netherlands, people above a certain age had to stay at home.
Yes ,that's what I said. When they are allowed to travel and they go to wath ever European country they are under that country's law.But if they head to Spain surely it's Spanish laws that prevail and not Dutch ones?
Yes, you are (apparently) more likely to die from it if you are above a certain age, also if you are very overweight or have another illness (diabetes, heart problems...). But that doesn’t make you more a danger to other people ...Prevention, here in the Netherlands, people above a certain age had to stay at home.
There are economic reasons why vaccines aren't developed for many illnesses. It costs a lot of money for research and development, and if the market isn't big enough for the final vaccine it doesn't make economic sense. Now we have a pandemic affecting billions of people - a pretty big market.While a vaccine would be nice, the fact they have never been able to develop one for SARS or MERS leads me believe it will be some time,
Exactly right. It will probably be at least another year before there is any kind of "normal" that we recognize.But relax and be patient: This is not over yet. It has just started.
If time is your biggest concern, a Canadian research team at the University of Saskatchewan has been working full-time to understand the SARS virus and to prepare for the next appearance of a similar virus since the SARS outbreak of 2003. They moved on to SARS-CoV-2 as soon as its appearance and nature were known. Currently, they are finished the animal stage of research with their new vaccine and are building production facilities for it, as they move on to human trials. And of course, they are only one of many. I am hopeful.While a vaccine would be nice, the fact they have never been able to develop one for SARS or MERS leads me believe it will be some time, if ever that an effective vaccine is developed and without side effects is available
Darn, here I thought it was going to be puzzle I needed to solve!!That was me. Got the spelling wrong I guess and I can't remember what word I wanted in there today. I was writing something about this next Frances being my 6th when I can get to it.
Mea Culpa.
My age puts me in a higher risk for the disease being fatal should I contract it, not for transmitting it to anyone else.Your age place you in the high risk catogary and that said you are a risk for others.
Absolutely. And my mask is a new Camino mask from the Camino store that I received yesterday!With all respect but I think that a 75 year old person in a good condition ( no obesity, no smoking or excessive alcohol intake and with an active lifestyle ) is in a less high risk category than a 45 year with too much weight,smoking and drinking excessively and out of breath after three k. of walking.
In that aspect everyone is a risk for others seeing a high percentage of people are asymptomatic carriers of the virus.
So @Buz Radican : go for it! I'm pretty sure you will have a mask and disinfecting gel in your pack!
I hope it is sooner than that!,After having my last Camino cut so short, I am chomping at the bit to get back on the Camino.
Hopefully by the time my reservations come round in 10 months, they will be letting USA folks in again.
The following post was originally written 21/03 at the beginning of confinement here in France; months have passed since then but my sincerity remains ever true.
My husband Bill and I at 80 and 81 after a year of extreme serious illnesses battened down. After closing our Marne-side b&b/pilgrim house, stocking medicine and food for the next months we continue to go forward together with courage and strength of will towards the inevitable.
All life is chance; things are or are not. I try not to worry about what I can't control but hope for the best while attempting to make things better.
Memories of successful past camino efforts help me keep going.
Ever since I found this Forum in 2009 each morning I have read/replied to the posted entries of the past day as the Forum became a part of my normal routine. One pleasure across the past decade has been the discovery of digital friends in unmet fellow walkers/readers with whom so much could be shared. Such are you for me.
Stay safe and well dear companions,
We who can not continue to walk as in the past can still continue on the pathways of our memory,
May we all have the mental and physical strength to persevere.
In the truest sense, Ultreia,
Margaret Meredith
I'm going this September too, (22nd Orisson). I like your positive attitude.I hear what people say about not going to Spain and letting people have time to recover. We could say the same about any COVID affected country.
But, living in England with ‘broadly’ similar grim stats to match those of Spain I look around me and see the new norm with shops and hotels very keen to open and do business. (And holidays being booked)
So, I’m not sitting somewhere safe and tut tutting, I’m just getting on with the new norm as otherwise I’d never leave my house
I don’t see a lot different with the status of things in Spain just now.
Surely their thinking is not a lot different from ours about visitors ( either Spanish or otherwise)? They will want economic recovery too.
Certainly, if things stay as they are, orimprove, and Europe allows travel, I’ll be heading to Spain in September.
just my thoughts people, don’t shoot me for thembecause your views may differ.
Well,
i thought I was doing so well... Restrained and all that! Walking the Camino? Moi? Pah! Not this year mate, I sooooo know better....
Err....
Last Saturday I couldn’t help myself, I booked a flight to Biarritz, to re-do the Camino francés.
Booked the first nights, Bayonne and Orisson.... And then, after Larrasoaña, the trouble started.... I just couldn’t find accommodation and I wasn’t prepared to camp under a Church porch either . Even with a tent, it ain’t easy, unless you do wild camping. I could do it one night I suppose but not severalAnd where?
Sooooooo..... I looked at the Camino del Norte!
Err.... No better. Probably worse. Most places that are open are booked up, holiday makers, surfers...
To cut a long story short, it really isn’t easy and my hat off to those who manage it. I envy them, I guess I wasn’t cut out for it .Haha, not a proper pilgrim, I was found out
Ps: don’t be put off, this is only my experience of it, I just couldn’t hack it
Yes, thank youHave you tried using the Wisely Camino Frances app, it has all accomodation along the Frances listed and a little green marker next to the ones that are open. I looked last night and there were options in most of the towns you pass through.
You're not alone. Many countries are in the same boat.It’s the wee small hours of the morning and I just heard a plane alight from LAX to...
It’s a sound I only hear in the silence of night. Otherwise, I reside a bit too far.
And, night has fallen in USA.
Never in my wildest imaginings would I have thought a United States passport would be rendered “void until further notice”.
Will I walk again; in all probability yes.
But, I wonder just how long the darkness of night will last before the light of dawn shines again; rendering my passport an object of transport once again.
Well,
i thought I was doing so well... Restrained and all that! Walking the Camino? Moi? Pah! Not this year mate, I sooooo know better....
Err....
Last Saturday I couldn’t help myself, I booked a flight to Biarritz, to re-do the Camino francés.
Booked the first nights, Bayonne and Orisson.... And then, after Larrasoaña, the trouble started.... I just couldn’t find accommodation and I wasn’t prepared to camp under a Church porch either . Even with a tent, it ain’t easy, unless you do wild camping. I could do it one night I suppose but not severalAnd where?
I will begin walking on Sept 1st.
I won't be walking in Spain. My route is in Switzerland and Italy.Does it mean that the Spanish borders will still be open in September? Looking at the rising trajectory of new infections, I would be thinking Spain is presently trying hard to keep the influx of foreign tourists throughout August, which is the most profitable month, but September? Well, who knows, you may be lucky to still get in. Fingers crossed.
You might try onlypilgrims.com. I have used Jesús on my three previous Camino’s. His website will show you what is open and not in most villages along the CF.I’m confused. Are you finding no where open? I have been looking on gronze and they do show a few Albergue closed still, but there seems to be enough open that it shouldn’t be a problem finding a bed. Or am I missing the latest information?
Flight to Biarritz was on 24th July, so Bayonne 24th and Orisson 25th. But it didn’t happen.Domigee - What dates did you book Bayonne and Orisson?
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