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COVID Do you still feel like walking?

domigee

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
2020? Looks like.... nowhere! 😁
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
 
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Albertagirl

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015); Aragones-Frances (2016); VdlP-Sanabres (2017); Madrid-Frances-Invierno (2019)Levante
I feel my next camino fading into the unknowable future. I don't want to travel until I have been vaccinated against the virus. And my knee surgery, delayed for the foreseeable future by the government's choice to delay all non-urgent surgery to commit resources to the pandemic, has left me at the end of a very long line. It is hard to believe in walking caminos at this time in history. Still, I go on planning in hope.
 
Camino(s) past & future
2012 SJPP-Burgos, 2014 Burgos-Leon, 2018 Leon-Santiago
I, too, feel my next Camino “fading into the unknowable future,” as Albertagirl so elegantly put it, and I’m not sure there will be the will even if there’s a way.
Was aiming at the Ingles with a new pilgrim as a companion, but that April walk seems out of reach as things stand. Bar/Hostal Luis is open now, but I fear it’s too early. I will rely on another elegant take on what’s to come for solace and for hope, Eugenio Montale’s line about how “the mornings of the future are anchored like boats in a harbor.”

There will be a world on the other side. Let’s hope we will be ourselves in it.

All the best,
Paul
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
I am in watch and wait mode. The lull we are in now is only the end of the beginning of the introductory chapter of this virus's story.

So no matter how sick of restraint and patience I can be sometimes, there is no urgent desire to go anywhere or do anything but a virtual camino right now.

I love this. Thank you, Paul...
“the mornings of the future are anchored like boats in a harbor.”
 

C clearly

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016), VDLP (2017), Mozarabe (2018), Vasco/Bayona (2019)
I am in watch and wait mode.
That is my state, too. However, I am pleased to say that I am feeling fairly content about it. I have enjoyed being at home, not working, during springtime in an area with many beautiful walks, and it has been a huge pleasure. I have not been meeting my walking targets but I have been working in the garden for a similar time. I haven't come close to being bored yet.

I do hope to go to the Camino again, but it is highly unlikely to be before spring 2021, for various reasons.
 

FamPed

Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
There are many different Pilgrim Routes and Caminos in life.
I will stay at home, but when the situation of this pandemic changes and there is a relayable vaccine, I will be walking a camino again. For now I will just water my cucumber and tomatoes in my greenhouse and try to make the best of this summer.
 

Kanga

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese, Primitivo
I am aching to be walking a camino again. It has been my cure-all for every problem that life has thrown at me. Now is a particularly difficult time, and the self indulgence of a grand camino is a delightful dream. Only a dream for the present. I do not want to catch this horrible disease. I do not fear death, but I do fear my capacity to cope with disability and illness. And I do not wish to contribute to other people's misery by passing it on. No man is an island - and this is a time for me to think communally.

I have also the view that walking a camino is not simply intention and courage. If I am meant to walk, then things conspire to make it happen. At present they do not. The very opposite. The boat is firmly anchored.
 

Kiwi-family

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018)-Frances, Baztan, San Salvador, Primitivo, Fisterra,VdlP, Madrid
I would love to be walking (and am exceeding my weekly goal of 50km - but it’s just not the same)
Can’t even get off this island if I’m to follow government directives!
I’m intrigued that I’ve lost interest in planning - perhaps I have so many walks already planned out that I need to do some more executing first!
(I find myself looking at rural blocks of land - a dream I put on hold when I discovered Caminos)
 
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Kanga

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese, Primitivo
(I find myself looking at rural blocks of land - a dream I put on hold when I discovered Caminos)
Having experienced the rural idyll, and watched other friends, we are really glad we did not commit. Perhaps rent something for 12 months, or offer to mind someone's place while they get away for a holiday (always needed)? At least don't burn the bridges back. Love your work btw.
 

malingerer

samarkand
Camino(s) past & future
cf (2), de la plata, cp. (2003 -2018)
I’m feeling no enthusiasm for the restrictions that will be in place for the foreseeable future and would rather wait, even if it’s several years. In the meantime have made some great discoveries of hiking trails “in my own backyard”. Realizing I can have adventures close to home has been a benefit (one of very few) of Covid.
I too have no enthusiasm for the restrictions and would rather not wait for several years as at 82 I would be pushing my luck which I am inclined to do anyway! :) I live in a flat so unless I fly out the window ( two floors up) bang goes the backyard hiking! I walk in and out of town approx. 7km per day and then indoor training when I get home. Got a new map yesterday ( central Portugal ) and as I have the other maps and books I do my own version of virtuality :) There is an old LP running in the back of my mind which endlessly repeats my pack list and what I would buy " if I had a win " ! I follow the forum relentlessly, whilst wringing fresh poems out of sweet FA but I will go a-camino at the first opportunity and couldn't give a hoot about which bit of the Iberian peninsula I start in as long as I am there. :)

Walk soft and stay safe.

The malingerer.
 

Jamie K

lifelong pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
Camino France (May and June 2017)
Portuguese Camino (May and June 2018)
Possibly Le-Puy or VDLP
I still want to go and walk the Camino as much as I did want before the pandemic. But I probably will not make any firm decision until my home country makes clear announcements that the virus has gone and we are allowed to go back to the life we had, that is a normal life. This must apply to any other country I intend to travel as well for the complete safety reason for you and me..
As many other people have been discovering their own backyard, so have I.
Luckily I live within a national park and we are privileged to use the trails that are closed to the public, so it hasn't been that bad but my heart still heads toward the Camino. I will be heartbroken if the Camino is no longer available in any way.
 

futurefjp

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
The Way is swiftly becoming my reason for existence.
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
Definitely
 

nycwalking

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Ourense to Santiago (2019), CF: (2014, 2004, 2002, 2001). On to Fisterra, (2002, 4, 14).
The cold and wet, hot and dry trek across Spain is my go-to when life overwhelms.

Instead of camino release; I am relegated to living in a state of shock and denial with chili-cheese fries, Coke and Pepsi, as my ever present companions. The cook at restaurant waves when I arrive to pick-up the goods. And, I am fast-tracked. Others wait for their vitals; I place my order and am gone within minutes.

I need the simplicity of the camino. I need a light backpack, a hot sun turning my black hair blonde, matrimonio bunks, the slip and slide of scree on downside of Alto de Perdón.

The tears of loss are welling as I write. Will, I ever again know the joy of lonely solace while walking; eating wild blackberries; enjoying a noisy and tasty meal of bread and lentils at communal dinner in Grañon; a two week hospitalera stint somewhere along the Way: I wonder.

In these last few years since my last full camino winter 2014, life has presented obstacles to walking. However, last November I was gifted eight days to try and walk, autoimmune illness permitting. It was cold, hard, and that darn hill out of Ourense nearly defeated me. But, I was there. I was there.

Now, life overwhelms: COVID, civil unrest a twenty minute drive from my home in any direction, and a host of life’s challenges before the aforementioned with which to concern myself.

But, no camino.

The way is fluid. It will be very different from what is was.

Will I recognize it?

Will it await for life to right itself so I can trek that dusty trail?

Do I wish to walk again: yes!

Will I? Can I? Can we all?
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances(2006) Portugues(2013)
San Salvador (2017) Ingles (2019)
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
Yes, @domigee , I do. When? - that will be after some time. When the colour green appears beside Spain in the list issued by the Dept of Foreign Affairs. Meantime, my actual concern about ”The Camino” is for the life of those whose bread and butter, or pan y vino, has been whooshed out of their very hands. Just yesterday as a result of following up on a thread posted by another forum member, I found a very positive expression of support in the form of a camino being planned with the aim of informing all hopeful pilgrims of the conditions on the Camino Francés around mid August. Check out the UK CSJ website for more details.
Hang on in, there, @domigee. And @malingerer, please resist the call to fly out of the window!
 

AJGuillaume

Pèlerin du monde
Camino(s) past & future
Via Gebennensis (2018)
Via Podiensis (2018)
Voie Nive Bidassoa (2018)
Camino Del Norte (2018)
My virtual experience on the Camino (VdlP) has been keeping the dream alive. Add to that two great zoom presentations by @peregrina2000 on the Invierno and the Olvidado, and I definitely have a dream and a goal.

We were going to walk the Caminho Português this year, so I have just postponed all arrangements to next year. And I'm putting my confinement time to good use by planning the VdlP for 2022, and the Olvidado and Invierno for 2023.
 

Paladina

old woman of the roads
Camino(s) past & future
CF, primitivo & del norte (2017); VdlP/Sanabres, ingles etc (2018), Mozarabe etc (2019), tbc (2020)
Having bought non-refundable tickets for the ferry to Spain I waited for the company to cancel the bookings. Now that I’ve received my replacement vouchers, I’m wondering when, or even if, I will ever use them. My misgivings concern not just the possible transmission of Covid but the fundamental sustainability of global travel. I am immensely grateful that I had the opportunity to walk and cycle various caminos when I did. It would have better still had I been able to do so thirty years earlier, but in those days I was a commercial organic grower, unable to take French (or Spanish) leave. I’m now spending the first of many seasons reclaiming this neglected land, and with the relaxation of the restrictions, rediscovering the roads less travelled and the sights overlooked in my own locality. One of the greatest gifts of the Camino is the capacity to take pleasure in the small and often unappreciated curiosities of one’s surroundings, including, in this instance, the wild orchids in the lane and the robin’s nest (incorporating my own hair) on my bookshelves. Such delights sustain me.
 

Stephen Nicholls

Steve Nicholls, Suffolk, U.K.
Camino(s) past & future
Too many caminos to list in the permitted 100 characters!!
I am so very pleased that I kept diaries of the first eight caminos I walked, and I took over 300 photos on EACH camino! I spend hours - probably too many hours - re-reading the diaries. I'm hoping for one final camino next May - just a very short one. But by then I will be 82 years old, and wonder if I will be up to it.
Only time will tell!
Meanwhile, I love this forum - thank you, Ivar!
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
The way is fluid. It will be very different from what is was.
Will I recognize it?
Will it await for life to right itself so I can trek that dusty trail?
Do I wish to walk again: yes!
Will I? Can I? Can we all?
Your beautiful post speaks eloquently for all of us, @nycwalking .

I sure hope so, for you, for me, for us all.
 

Phoenix

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2014, CF: partial
2016, CF
2018, CF: partial
2019, CP
Yes, I have a strong desire to go.
Yes, I will go again.
Yes, I have a time window narrowed down to within a few weeks of when I will go.
But, over the past 4 months, I have learned to not reveal any details here.
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
The cold and wet, hot and dry trek across Spain is my go-to when life overwhelms.

Instead of camino release; I am relegated to living in a state of shock and denial with chili-cheese fries, Coke and Pepsi, as my ever present companions. The cook at restaurant waves when I arrive to pick-up the goods. And, I am fast-tracked. Others wait for their vitals; I place my order and am gone within minutes.

I need the simplicity of the camino. I need a light backpack, a hot sun turning my black hair blonde, matrimonio bunks, the slip and slide of scree on downside of Alto de Perdón.

The tears of loss are welling as I write. Will, I ever again know the joy of lonely solace while walking; eating wild blackberries; enjoying a noisy and tasty meal of bread and lentils at communal dinner in Grañon; a two week hospitalera stint somewhere along the Way: I wonder.

In these last few years since my last full camino winter 2014, life has presented obstacles to walking. However, last November I was gifted eight days to try and walk, autoimmune illness permitting. It was cold, hard, and that darn hill out of Ourense nearly defeated me. But, I was there. I was there.

Now, life overwhelms: COVID, civil unrest a twenty minute drive from my home in any direction, and a host of life’s challenges before the aforementioned with which to concern myself.

But, no camino.

The way is fluid. It will be very different from what is was.

Will I recognize it?

Will it await for life to right itself so I can trek that dusty trail?

Do I wish to walk again: yes!

Will I? Can I? Can we all?
My dear friend, my own tears well up as I read what you have shared. My heart goes out to you. I have my own angst about the future of the camino and what it will look like. I stubbornly do not want the "new normal"...I want more of what my Camino memories have brought me, as do you.
 

malingerer

samarkand
Camino(s) past & future
cf (2), de la plata, cp. (2003 -2018)
The cold and wet, hot and dry trek across Spain is my go-to when life overwhelms.

Instead of camino release; I am relegated to living in a state of shock and denial with chili-cheese fries, Coke and Pepsi, as my ever present companions. The cook at restaurant waves when I arrive to pick-up the goods. And, I am fast-tracked. Others wait for their vitals; I place my order and am gone within minutes.

I need the simplicity of the camino. I need a light backpack, a hot sun turning my black hair blonde, matrimonio bunks, the slip and slide of scree on downside of Alto de Perdón.

The tears of loss are welling as I write. Will, I ever again know the joy of lonely solace while walking; eating wild blackberries; enjoying a noisy and tasty meal of bread and lentils at communal dinner in Grañon; a two week hospitalera stint somewhere along the Way: I wonder.

In these last few years since my last full camino winter 2014, life has presented obstacles to walking. However, last November I was gifted eight days to try and walk, autoimmune illness permitting. It was cold, hard, and that darn hill out of Ourense nearly defeated me. But, I was there. I was there.

Now, life overwhelms: COVID, civil unrest a twenty minute drive from my home in any direction, and a host of life’s challenges before the aforementioned with which to concern myself.

But, no camino.

The way is fluid. It will be very different from what is was.

Will I recognize it?

Will it await for life to right itself so I can trek that dusty trail?

Do I wish to walk again: yes!

Will I? Can I? Can we all?

Go git 'em lady!

The Malingerer

:)
 

Albertagirl

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015); Aragones-Frances (2016); VdlP-Sanabres (2017); Madrid-Frances-Invierno (2019)Levante
I would like to say how much I rely on our mutual support at present. I am pretty much drained as I try to encourage my family members, fellow parishioners, and those around me. The forum provides a place of renewal and hope. Thank you to all of you, and especially to Ivar, who has encouraged us all in this difficult time.
 

John R McLean

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Completed Camino Frances (2016)
Camino Portuguese from Porto (2017)
Iona-Rome-Jerusalem (2019-20)
Yes!
I will be walking as soon as the flight is confirmed, as soon as the countries lift restrictions, as soon as each country gives the green light and welcomes pilgrims. Yes, I will walk.
 

mspath

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances, autumn/winter; 2004, 2005-2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
The following post was originally written 21/03 at the beginning of confinement here in France; months have passed since then but my sincerity remains ever true.

My husband Bill and I at 80 and 81 after a year of extreme serious illnesses battened down. After closing our Marne-side b&b/pilgrim house, stocking medicine and food for the next months we continue to go forward together with courage and strength of will towards the inevitable.

All life is chance; things are or are not. I try not to worry about what I can't control but hope for the best while attempting to make things better.
Memories of successful past camino efforts help me keep going.

Ever since I found this Forum in 2009 each morning I have read/replied to the posted entries of the past day as the Forum became a part of my normal routine. One pleasure across the past decade has been the discovery of digital friends in unmet fellow walkers/readers with whom so much could be shared. Such are you for me.

Stay safe and well dear companions,
We who can not continue to walk as in the past can still continue on the pathways of our memory,

May we all have the mental and physical strength to persevere.

In the truest sense, Ultreia,

Margaret Meredith
 
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D74

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Walked Frances 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019
Walking Portuguese from Porto 2020 (now 2021)
I, like many others on here, have loved my trips to the Camino. The Camino has given me so much, friendships, growth and many many happy memories, alongside a few choice blisters and a bad bout of tendinitis. I would love to be able to go back out there and get back on the trail, using my money to help the local businesses that rely on passing pilgrims (I have donated online to a few too). But, I think it might be a very different experience while we get used to this new normal.

So many questions pop up when thinking about going back this year, what will albergue life be like now, how will others outside my group interact with me and will the 'magic' still be there? A bigger question is what will happen if you catch it out there? If it's mild and you're not laid up, who will want to house you while you're coughing/infectious? So many more serious questions than my normal 'should I take 2 or 3 pairs of undies?'

I do so miss my peaceful early morning Camino walks, just before the sun has risen, feeling like I'm the only person on the trail. That for me is a magical time on the Camino where I have time to think and reflect on my journey and my life. I will be back, as it's an important part of my life, I'm just not sure when...
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2015, 2017, 2019) and plans for 2021 (Sept, Oct)
Yes, certainly my wife and I will walk the camino again, hopefully several times. We've been on a two year cycle, completing the 800 km CF in 2015, 2017 (with my brother and his wife) and 2019. We were planning to hike this year to avoid the Jubilee year crowds in 2021. Each time we've hiked from mid-Sept to late October and really like this time of the year. With COVID-19, we'll cancel all our reservations for overnights; I'm a planner and we have private room reservations every night. Even if Spain loosens restrictions late summer or this fall, we'll not risk getting an infection and just wait until a vaccine is available. I won't be surprised if the jubilee year crowds are muted / reduced next year, which is fine with us ! Bob
 

PeteD

Active member
Camino(s) past & future
Bicigrino CF SJPdP - SdC Mar 2016
Kumano Kodo Sept 2018
VdlP (Mar 2020 X)
VdlP (Mat 2022)
Yes, I most definitely feel like walking again.
Plans for March April this year went astray, however I feel that the time to walk in Spain again is not yet here. I would like to feel that when I walk again, most people would want and welcome me to be walking through their villages and daily lives. I don't want anyone to feel threatened by my being a pilgrim passing through.
I can walk now for me, but I want to walk when it is right for them.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2019)
I will probably walk another Camino but I am not sure when.

Initially I was quite disappointed at not being able to walk from May to August this year as I had a number of Caminos planned. However, it was a glorious Autumn here in NZ and I have really enjoyed my garden planting some late lettuces and other vegetables that have enjoyed the extended sunshine.

Now that Winter is here I am missing the Spanish Summer but I certainly am not missing the extra hassle of traveling at this time.

The other downside is that the longer I leave it the less enthusiastic I am about planning my next Camino and I am starting to wonder if I will ever get back to Spain again.

When I walked last year, I had a feeling that this might be the last time that I get to travel to Europe but I never thought that it would be because of a pandemic.
 
Camino(s) past & future
I am walking in March and April of 2019.
I bought tickets for January, with the hope that it will be safe by then. But then i read an article that was posted on this forum about Santo Domingo de la Calzada and how hard they were hit with Corona Virus, especially the elders of the town, and i am not sure i want to go till there is a vaccine. It seems, to me, irresponsible to expose the locals to a deadly virus just so i can indulge my camino desires.
 

Peadarmac

Irlandes Pedro
Camino(s) past & future
Astorga-S de C '11,'18,19
St Jean-Belorado '13 & '17
Belorado-Astorga '15
Fisterra-Muxia '11,'18,'19
Yes, I most definitely feel like walking again.
Plans for March April this year went astray, however I feel that the time to walk in Spain again is not yet here. I would like to feel that when I walk again, most people would want and welcome me to be walking through their villages and daily lives. I don't want anyone to feel threatened by my being a pilgrim passing through.
I can walk now for me, but I want to walk when it is right for them.
Very well said my friend. Thank you for putting so succinctly into words what has been troubling me deeply.

I was beginning to despair reading about people wanting to fulfil their OWN desire to walk the Camino again while seemingly completely disregarding the feelings of the local folks who will have to brace themselves for a potential second wave of the virus. Unfortunately it appears that science has been overtaken by economics. The loudest voices for a relaxation of lockdown measures are coming from the leisure/tourism sectors. With regards to the Camino this means that (some) Albergue, Pension, Bar, Restaurant and Hotel owners want to see Pilgrims and tourists again but are these people speaking for the majority of residents in small towns like Santo Domingo for example ? Santo Domingo de la Calzada suffered horrendously during the pandemic.The situation there in now stable but the one thing guaranteed to bring in fresh cases of the Covid virus are people travelling into the town from outside the region.

I think we owe it to the very people who have welcomed us time and again over the years on the Camino to return but only when it is safe and proper and right for them first and foremost.

Gracias y ultreia .
 
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Linda Fantillo

RiverWalker
Camino(s) past & future
September/October 14, May 17, September 18, MAY 2020
The following post was originally written 21/03 at the beginning of confinement here in France; months have passed since then but my sincereity remains ever true.

My husband Bill and I at 80 and 81 after a year of extreme serious illnesses battened down. After closing our Marne-side b&b/pilgrim house, stocking medicine and food for the next months we continue to go forward together with courage and strength of will towards the inevitable.

All life is chance; things are or are not. I try not to worry about what I can't control but hope for the best while attempting to make things better.
Memories of successful past camino efforts help me keep going.

Ever since I found this Forum in 2009 each morning I have read/replied to the posted entries of the past day as the Forum became a part of my normal routine. One pleasure across the past decade has been the discovery of digital friends in unmet fellow walkers/readers with whom so much could be shared. Such are you for me.

Stay safe and well dear companions,
We who can not continue to walk as in the past can still continue on the pathways of our memory,

May we all have the mental and physical strength to persevere.

In the truest sense, Ultreia,

Margaret Meredith
Margaret, you are my Camino hero!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances , Pamplona Burgos august 2018 Burgos to Santiago 19 /04 to 20/05/2019
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
 

Oxford Alice

Member
Camino(s) past & future
(Bits of) Camino Frances (2001)
Camino Frances (2014)
Camino Frances (2018)
I was meant to start my 2020 CF on 2 April, and have spent the last couple of months thinking .... I would be in Granon now, I would be half way across the Meseta now, I would be walking into Santiago now. Probably not very healthy thinking! It seems that most of the things I care about are in the rear view mirror. So I was feeling like you, Domigee, having a hard time working up enthusiasm for a re-booked Camino.

And then, and then .... I got the ad for the Camino face mask and everything changed! I ordered one and can't wait until it arrives. I intend to wear it around Oxford in the hopes that people who know what it signifies will stop and talk to me. I'm going to tie one of those Camino ribbons around my wrist, and at that point it's game on. My hope is to walk in the spring of 2020, D.V. I guess the mask made me think that somehow Covid-10 and the Camino are not mutually exclusive, and that when it's safe and desirable to do so, I will walk.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances , Pamplona Burgos august 2018 Burgos to Santiago 19 /04 to 20/05/2019
If the flight to Porto from Brest in Brittany where I live is reconnected and I feel the spell , after considering the pros and cons I might just not think too much and just leave to walk the Camino Portugues
It will probably be a spontaneous decision .. my backpack is ready
First week of July I will walk a beautiful trail
On the pink granite coast of Brittany .The GR 34 runs all around Bretagne and also a pilgrimage route of 600kms called TroBreiz is available

Mixed feelings then..
The Camino is part of my life too and brought me a purpose ! But I don want to be a burden if I would become sick on the way !
 
Camino(s) past & future
I am walking in March and April of 2019.
Very well said my friend. Thank you for putting so succinctly into words what has been troubling me deeply.

I was beginning to despair reading about people wanting to fulfil their OWN desire to walk the Camino again while seemingly completely disregarding the feelings of the local folks who will have to brace themselves for a potential second wave of the virus. Unfortunately it appears that science has been overtaken by economics. The loudest voices for a relaxation of lockdown measures is coming from the leisure/tourism sectors. With regards to the Camino this means that (some) Albergue, Pension, Bar, Restaurant and Hotel owners want to see Pilgrims and tourists again but are these people speaking for the majority of residents in small towns like Santo Domingo for example ? Santo Domingo de la Calzada suffered horrendously during the pandemic.The situation there in now stable but the one thing guaranteed to bring in fresh cases of the Covid virus are people travelling into the town from outside region.

I thing we owe it to the very people who have welcomed us time and again over the years on the Camino to return but only when it is safe and proper and right for them first and foremost.

Gracias y ultreia .
Thanks for replying i am glad to know someone else feels this way too. I
 

Lucy Keenan

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2016 Northern Route, 2017 Santiago to Muxia and Fisterra. 2018 Frances, 2018 Ingles, 2019 Portugues
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
I totally agree with you and I am from the UK as well and should be on the Camino now. I don't think the infrastructure is ready and nor are the locals for an influx of pilgrims. I am really not sure about the future, but COVID 19 has destroyed the spirit of the Camino, but I guess there will be just a different feel to it in the post COVID world.
 

linkster

Nunca dejes de creer!
Camino(s) past & future
CF (17) Sarria - Portomarín
CF (17) SJPdP - SdC
CF (18) SJPdP - Fisterra
CP (19) Porto - Muxia
I wanted to walk and serve as a hospitalero this year, but alas that will not happen. I am hopeful that I may return next year. The Camino has taught me to be more accepting, but acceptance is a bitch for control freaks. I will do my best to accept the delay.

Hopefully, the environment will be different next year. Time will tell what the new normal will be like. I think the spiritual part of the walk will be the same. I am not sure about the rest. Albergues, social interaction, Camino families, etc.

In the past, the Spanish people have made me feel welcome, supported, and shared their culture. I hope this virus does not change that. How cool is it to be welcomed with a kiss on both cheeks? Very Cool!

I want to return. I feel a little nostalgic. I will continue to enhance my Spanglish in anticipation of my return. But for now, I want the Spanish people to have the time and space needed to assimilate.

The day will come when we are healthy and strong, happy and peaceful, and safe and protected!👣:D:cool:
 

An Tincéir

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Portuguese (2009) Norte (2016) Norte/Primitivo (2018)
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
I’m in the same boat myself. I had planned for the Portuguese starting in April but now I am happy to wait until next year. I don’t consider it to be fear though, rather prudence. We need to give the Spanish and Portuguese people time to recover before we put them and ourselves at further risk by unknowingly and unintentionally triggering a second phase. It only takes one person to do it.
 

firstshirt

Member
Camino(s) past & future
November (2018)
Absolutely, more than ever! However, will wait until a vaccine along with Spain and the U.S. being on solid ground regarding this virus. In fact hope to do two two trips overseas to make up for lost time-one in April/May, maybe explore Tomar, Portugal to check out the Knight's Templar along with a side trip to walk Muxia/Finisterre and one in October to start the Norte in Irun.
 

Rmarkob

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
April 2020 (postponed indefinitely)
I retired on 10 April and was supposed to start the CF on 20 April this year. I was hoping September/October might be an option, but until there’s a vaccine I’m having second thoughts. Like others have said, not only do I not want to get sick (at age 65 I’m just in that risky demographic), but I also wouldn’t want to infect other pilgrims or locals along the Camino.

I didn’t want to go in 2021 due to Holy Year crowds, but if there’s a vaccine by then I may reconsider. Fortunately, I’m in good health but still would rather go sooner than later while that’s still the case. But I’m heartened to see that some of you are still doing the Camino into your 70s and 80s!

Meanwhile, my property borders the Appalachian Trail, and I’ve continued my training hikes that I started in January so I’m fit for the Camino whenever it’s possible for me to go. I’ve also continued to contribute part-time hours at my old job since all travel plans in my post-retirement have been postponed. Plus the extra income will come in handy to finance future travel and possibly more expensive lodging options on the Camino.
 

firstshirt

Member
Camino(s) past & future
November (2018)
I retired on 10 April and was supposed to start the CF on 20 April this year. I was hoping September/October might be an option, but until there’s a vaccine I’m having second thoughts. Like others have said, not only do I not want to get sick (at age 65 I’m just in that risky demographic), but I also wouldn’t want to infect other pilgrims or locals along the Camino.

I didn’t want to go in 2021 due to Holy Year crowds, but if there’s a vaccine by then I may reconsider. Fortunately, I’m in good health but still would rather go sooner than later while that’s still the case. But I’m heartened to see that some of you are still doing the Camino into your 70s and 80s!

Meanwhile, my property borders the Appalachian Trail, and I’ve continued my training hikes that I started in January so I’m fit for the Camino whenever it’s possible for me to go. I’ve also continued to contribute part-time hours at my old job since all travel plans in my post-retirement have been postponed. Plus the extra income will come in handy to finance future travel and possibly more expensive lodging options on the Camino.
Hiked the A.T. in 2000, passed thru your town. Just took a break at the ATC building and moved on.
 

Joejoe

El Topo Verde.
Camino(s) past & future
The French way, plus aiming to walk the mozarabe through to muxia.
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
life is too short for regrets , go for it. Spain is coping pretty well really.
I am aim to walk the Mozarabe route in September,from Almeria.
 

ObeeOne

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Planning stage for 2020
I am scheduled for October but my enthusiasm has faded. I do not want to fly the Atlantic wearing a mask or walk with a face covering and all that. Will see what things look like about August but I may cancel. Had been gathering supplies since last year for my walk which should have been in May. But things are changed to say the least.
 

Edit

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
French Way 2007, 8,15 VDLP 2011, Porto-SDC 2015,16,17 Geneva-Astorga 2016 Budapest-Finisterre 2017+
Yes!
I will be walking as soon as the flight is confirmed, as soon as the countries lift restrictions, as soon as each country gives the green light and welcomes pilgrims. Yes, I will walk.
Spain opens its Caminos, pilgrim's offices, the Cathedral in Santiago, albergues 1st of July! It's official!
Our original plan was the Norte from 1st of August, and now I am pretty sure we can do it!!!!
 

Undermanager

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Madrid (x2)
VDLP
Salvador
Primitivo
Finisterra / Muxia
Lana
Keen to go but can"t see it happening this year. I"d prefer not to fly if possible, which means ludicrous prices for train tickets, and would prefer camping to hostels now, although always need a shower at the end of the day. Tricky one!
 

Marbe2

Active member
Camino(s) past & future
2015-2019 walked all or more than half of CF 7 times... CP recently cancelled by Covid 19!
That is my state, too. However, I am pleased to say that I am feeling fairly content about it. I have enjoyed being at home, not working, during springtime in an area with many beautiful walks, and it has been a huge pleasure. I have not been meeting my walking targets but I have been working in the garden for a similar time. I haven't come close to being bored yet.

I do hope to go to the Camino again, but it is highly unlikely to be before spring 2021, for various reasons.
Would love to walk again. In the meantime, I am hand constructing a rock/ Flower garden on the path/trail behnd our home. Not putting lots of walking mileage in (about 3 miles per day) but have been lugging rocks, planting, digging, weeding and breathing heavy 3-4 hrs per day. Not bored at all....

First hopeful medication I have heard of so far is dexamethazone. I believe it is used for altitude sckness and has shown some promise for severe cases and of COVID 19. It gives me hope that within a year they will find a cockail which will likely reduce the risk of travel abroad.

I do too hope to be able to return in 2021, if med combo or a safe vaccine for seniors becomes available.
 

venerabledom

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Sept 2020 is booked for my first Camino Frances!
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
Hi,

I have flights booked since last year for Mid-Sept, I have daily changed my mind about whether I want to be able to come or not on my first Camino. I think, in the end, I do want to come, but I am not some kind of Covid denier nutter. I know that its real, and anything we do in public now carries a risk. Because of this, no one should feel bad either way - wanting to come, or not wanting to come - this is a deeply personal matter I feel. I hope to come and be able to take necessary precautions, but give the Spanish economy some of my tourist money as well. Personally, unless there is a second wave, I will come if I am welcome.
 

Alan Pearce

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Aragones 2008, del Norte 2009, VdlP 2011, Ingles 2014, Camino de Madri 2015, Frances 2017
This is the first year since 2008 that I have not travelled from Australia to Spain, so I guess it's hardly surprising that I miss the camino. I have been lucky in that a part time job that I started just after I retired has funded these trips, but this year I have the money still in my bank account. I am helping ease my pain of not being on camino by using the money to buy red wine. This plan is working, and I now think about red wine nearly as much as being in Spain.

Be brave. Life is joyous.

Alan
 

Jeff B

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2019
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
Definitely planning on going (Primitivo)...maybe September? Had bookings for May/June but cancelled. Waiting to see how the virus progresses in Spain.
 

JNast

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Planned August 21-Oct 10 (2017)
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
I'm ready to walk... still have my flights planned for July 24th and WILL NOT cancel the flight unless Spain will not let me in from the USA... My Plan is to walk and experience an even more quiet, peaceful and serene Camino.
 

Mycroft

Active Member
The cold and wet, hot and dry trek across Spain is my go-to when life overwhelms.

Instead of camino release; I am relegated to living in a state of shock and denial with chili-cheese fries, Coke and Pepsi, as my ever present companions. The cook at restaurant waves when I arrive to pick-up the goods. And, I am fast-tracked. Others wait for their vitals; I place my order and am gone within minutes.

I need the simplicity of the camino. I need a light backpack, a hot sun turning my black hair blonde, matrimonio bunks, the slip and slide of scree on downside of Alto de Perdón.

The tears of loss are welling as I write. Will, I ever again know the joy of lonely solace while walking; eating wild blackberries; enjoying a noisy and tasty meal of bread and lentils at communal dinner in Grañon; a two week hospitalera stint somewhere along the Way: I wonder.

In these last few years since my last full camino winter 2014, life has presented obstacles to walking. However, last November I was gifted eight days to try and walk, autoimmune illness permitting. It was cold, hard, and that darn hill out of Ourense nearly defeated me. But, I was there. I was there.

Now, life overwhelms: COVID, civil unrest a twenty minute drive from my home in any direction, and a host of life’s challenges before the aforementioned with which to concern myself.

But, no camino.

The way is fluid. It will be very different from what is was.

Will I recognize it?

Will it await for life to right itself so I can trek that dusty trail?

Do I wish to walk again: yes!

Will I? Can I? Can we all?
Similar feelings, NYCwalking. I can relate. But worried that you are consuming unhealthy foods.
 

CaroleH

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
VdlP 2006, Portugues 2007;Madrid 2009, Finisterre 2009; Sur and VdlP 2011,2013; Manchego and Madrid 2014; VdlP (parts) 2016; Hospitalero plan 2017.
What a worthwhile thread! Thank you Domigee. Thank you also for the wonderful inputs from all of you.

I don't want anyone to feel threatened by my being a pilgrim passing through.
I can walk now for me, but I want to walk when it is right for them.
Well said PeteD...

All life is chance; things are or are not. I try not to worry about what I can't control but hope for the best while attempting to make things better.
Memories of successful past camino efforts help me keep going.

Ever since I found this Forum in 2009 each morning I have read/replied to the posted entries of the past day as the Forum became a part of my normal routine. One pleasure across the past decade has been the discovery of digital friends in unmet fellow walkers/readers with whom so much could be shared. Such are you for me.

Stay safe and well dear companions,
We who can not continue to walk as in the past can still continue on the pathways of our memory,

May we all have the mental and physical strength to persevere.

In the truest sense, Ultreia,

Margaret Meredith
mspath... so beautifully written. Ultreia to you

Buen camino of life everyone. Carole
 

CaroleH

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
VdlP 2006, Portugues 2007;Madrid 2009, Finisterre 2009; Sur and VdlP 2011,2013; Manchego and Madrid 2014; VdlP (parts) 2016; Hospitalero plan 2017.
Thank you all.
So often during this pandemic and for most of this year, during our bushfire summer here in Oz and during big family health issues, I have longed to be on camino, have thought that what I need, we all need, is to be on camino. . .
But, like Domigee , this year I have no overwhelming desire to go to Spain for any reason. Yet I have, for decades wanted to actually live there. Australia is for now one of the safest places to be (until next summer?) and until second waves of Covid are sorted and hopefully some vaccine, I feel the need to stay home.

This kind of surprises me as my hubby and I have been walking caminos most years since 2006 and I still want to walk more and be involved with the camino world... and my body (which for some reason is getting older) and spirit (which is getting younger) need their annual tune up, which camino and training bring.

So sadly.. I'm not considering a camino for some time, am content-ish to stay home this year. Next year?... that's another story. . .
 
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Mycroft

Active Member
No worries.

Yesterday, I ate my chili cheese fries, twenty minutes or so later they decided to bi-evacuate, if you ken my meaning. So, I will have to leave those goods at the restaurant: Too bad.
Occasional chili cheese fries--OK. Sugary (or artificial), carbonated sodas--never! In any case, sounds like your body spoke and you listened!
 

MikeJS

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Francis (2011), Norte (12), VdlP (16). Sureste/Invierno (17). Olvidado/San Salvador/Primitivo (19)
I intended to walk another camino this Sept, probably a version of the camino Madrid, but will not do it now as I would prefer things had a chance to settle down. So I will delay until next year. It is not the virus itself that stops me but rather the current disruption.
 

Annie Sutton

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances
My best friend of 40 years, a Catholic priest died suddenly, tragically, in Feb 2019. My husband and I had planned to do the Camino with him in 2021, to arrive in Santiago de Compostela on 30 June, which would have been his 50th anniversary of ordination. Upon his death, we moved our Camino forward by a year. I had hoped it would help me deal with his loss, you see. But now, even though the desire is there, and we have moved our booking forward a year, at this stage, with Covid re-surging in many places; the constant upheaval and changes; my fear for the locals; I really can't see us doing it. I hope this is my 'at the bottom of the mountain not able to see the peak' moment and that things will settle and I will be more optimistic about it.
 

Lance Chambers

Lance Chambers
Camino(s) past & future
Sarria (2015), SJPdP (2016), Burgos (2017), SJPdP (2018), Burgos (2019), SJPdP (2020?).
I plan to do my 6th Seances when it is safe to do so. Will not travel outside of Western Australia until any and all Covid threats are gone.

I can and will wait.

Plenty of other things to keep me busy and interested.
 

enjoyingthejourney

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2019
I walked my first camino Frances in 2019 and I would have walked the del Norte in may/June this year. I am still sad my second camino did not work out as planned. thought maybe September/October 2020, since things are started to look better and borders are opening up, but this weekend I decided to not walk a camino this year. Maybe next year, when we will know more about this virus and maybe have a vaccine. Last week I was a bit stressed out because of work and I decided spontaneously to walk on a German camino for three days since hotels and hostels opened up and the stages are only 1,5 hours from where I live.
walking is definitely not the problem. I met a few other pilgrims and we kept our distance while chatting. The outdoors are fine. The German hotels (I bet the Spanish will too!!) are putting a lot of effort into hygiene, etc. You have to wear a mask if your are anywhere else than your room or your breakfast table. There are special forms you have to fill out every restaurant and hotel you go with exact time you stayed and where you sat for contact tracing. This was all fine once getting used it. Most people were patient and nice about all of this. The borders are open, so there were also a lot of French and Dutch people on holidays.
Everyone tried to be as compliant as possible.

So, I tried to imagine how it would be to walk a camino in Spain and I realized even after having a good experience this weekend, I think for the rest of the year a 4-6 weeks pilgrimage seems not a good idea to me. No matter how compliant you are and you wear a mask, etc. in these past three days I had more contact to people than in the last three months together, because I was walking from town to town and I needed a place to sleep and stop at many locations for food. And then even in Germany masks are mandatory, there are always some people who do not take it seriously. And then all the recent spikes of infections here, I don’t know...

I think next year hopefully things will be more hopeful. I miss walking so much.
Buen Camino
 
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peregrino_tom

Member
Camino(s) past & future
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I've got extremely mixed feelings about it all - on the one side, that we all need to work closely together to beat this thing and erring on the side of caution can only help. Just to be patient.
But on the other side....
no sense of personal jeopardy as I'm pretty sure I already endured C-19 back in March, and fortunately only reacted mildly to it. Sitting here looking out the window (and in complete denial about my deteriorating knees!) I can't help but imagine walking a crowd-free camino late September, where there's an even greater sense of camaraderie between those of us who've been able to make it there and those willing to provide hospitality along the way, and swap our stories, condolences and hopes for the future...
 

Turga

Camino tortuga
Camino(s) past & future
CF (Aug/Sep 2017)
CF (Aug/Sep 2018)
What I most of all require when walking a Camino is simplicity. Simplicity of walking, eating, sleeping, being. To me, that doesn’t comply well with constantly having to worry about keeping distance, touching anything/anybody, wearing masks, disinfect, filling out documents, being tracked and whatever.

I think I will return to the Camino when simplicity is restored in one way or another.
 

RJM

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
A few times
No, I do not. I have walked multiple Camino routes multiple times, but the current situation has taken all the wind from my sails in regards to the Camino.
Honestly I don't foresee a normality in walking it to come back for several years from now. Only when the covid 19 is controlled through vaccine.
 

Lexicos

Jim
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances
2017
Camino Portuguese 2019
Very hard to know what to do. Very difficult to decide. September is only two months away.
 
Camino(s) past & future
2017 2018
I am still holding out hope that I can complete my camino in October if things go well with the virus. I have read here folks saying that the camino will always be there which is true but I wont and am consious of being an old age pensioner.
So hopefully things will continue to improve and I will be on the camino in autumn but if not I will bring the zimmer frame in 2021:) Love to all.
 

Albertagirl

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015); Aragones-Frances (2016); VdlP-Sanabres (2017); Madrid-Frances-Invierno (2019)Levante
I am still holding out hope that I can complete my camino in October if things go well with the virus. I have read here folks saying that the camino will always be there which is true but I wont and am consious of being an old age pensioner.
So hopefully things will continue to improve and I will be on the camino in autumn but if not I will bring the zimmer frame in 2021:) Love to all.
Maybe you will be lucky and will be able to do without the zimmer frame for the next few years. Buen camino.
 

ObeeOne

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Planning stage for 2020
Just cancelled my postponed Camino. I had so wanted to make the walk but the world is so uncertain at this time. Chaos all over the place. And international travel could be iffy if even allowed. I do not want to be stranded in Spain! I paid a big penalty for cancelling but now perhaps I can take some state side trips this fall. But the evil ones causing so much trouble are not done yet.
I spent months watching videos on the Camino; I almost had it memorized. I gathered supplies and looked forward to it for months. If peace returns perhaps another year but it may never happen for me to make the walk. So sorry about this.
 

ObeeOne

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Planning stage for 2020
No, I do not. I have walked multiple Camino routes multiple times, but the current situation has taken all the wind from my sails in regards to the Camino.
Honestly I don't foresee a normality in walking it to come back for several years from now. Only when the covid 19 is controlled through vaccine.
Both the flu and the common cold cannot be controlled and this will not be either. And rushed vaccines could have terrible consequences.
 

Ger.vieira

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
29/02/2017
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
I do. More than ever now......
 

David with new Kit!

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF September (2019) SJPP to Logrono
CF May/June (2020) Logrono to ? (Delayed).
I hear what people say about not going to Spain and letting people have time to recover. We could say the same about any COVID affected country.

But, living in England with ‘broadly’ similar grim stats to match those of Spain I look around me and see the new norm with shops and hotels very keen to open and do business. (And holidays being booked)

So, I’m not sitting somewhere safe and tut tutting, I’m just getting on with the new norm as otherwise I’d never leave my house

I don’t see a lot different with the status of things in Spain just now.

Surely their thinking is not a lot different from ours about visitors ( either Spanish or otherwise)? They will want economic recovery too.

Certainly, if things stay as they are, orimprove, and Europe allows travel, I’ll be heading to Spain in September.

just my thoughts people, don’t shoot me for them 😁 because your views may differ.
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF in sections 2019/2020
I will also head to Spain. On July 2, I will pick up my CF section’s walk from Fromista, where I ended in February and it is my intention to walk my second, final section into SDC later, by the end of August. I will do everything to manage the risks to the Spanish people by travelling covered in masks, shields, desinfectant etc., I will sleep in single rooms and for back up purposes -of course inspired by Dave Bugg- I am bringing a just 369 grams tent (Big Agnes Scout 1). I realise that there is some risk, but I have decided not to wait. The curve of the virus is now at its lowest point both in the Netherlands, where I live and in Spain. Furthermore, during the summer months, all eating and socialising can take place outside. And if I read the Spanish government, as difficult as the dillema is, I think the Spanish people are hoping that we return.
 

The Kolbist

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
past: Frances, inland Portuguese, Fatima
future: Del Norte, coastal Porugues, Englis
The Del Norte awaits. Our hearts aches to walk more than our heels. We keep training as if we fire up our adrenaline on the bridge of Puente de Santiago. Yet, we know that it might not even happen this year. Perhaps next year when a massive number of pilgrims descend on Santiago on a holy year. For now, it might be wise for us to do a Camino de Fatima from Caminha through the coastal route if enough albergue opens in Oct. Until then we cross our fingers and ask the intercession of Santiago for a petition to walk the camino. Just like Alfonso The Chaste.
 

Helen1

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
London to Santiago (2014)
Narbonne to Oloron (2015)
Camino Portugues (2016)
Sentier Cathar (2017)
We should have walked for a week in March but events overtook our plans and we rebooked our flights for mid-September. I am still hopeful we will be able to go. Assuming things don’t change we would like to go, the big thing holding us back is what the locals think and what will be open. We don’t want to go if local people feel uncomfortable with us there. I will be interested to read about people’s experiences.

It’s very hard to gauge people’s feelings from the outside. I think the UK stats are worse than Spain’s but in London at least there is no sense of mourning or needing time to recover. However, my relatives in Wales are very concerned about opening up. There is considerable hostility towards letting tourists in who might not follow the social distancing rules and whose numbers will cause long queues in the local shops. The business grant scheme in Wales was pretty generous so the economic pressure to open up isn’t so great but that might change as the support stops.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Francis SJPDP-SDC (2014, 2015, 2016, 2017) , Norte 2018
Pilgrim Office 2018, Hospitalero Acebo 2019
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
I still wish that I could walk the Camino again this year but I am extremely fearful that if I got sick could i make my way home again?
 

Mycroft

Active Member
Fair play to you
the camino’s can wait and not going anywhere
I plan to do my 6th Seances when it is safe to do so. Will not travel outside of Western Australia until any and all Covid threats are gone.

I can and will wait.

Plenty of other things to keep me busy and interested.
Trying to figure out what '6th Seances' means. Is it a play on your name Sean?
 

Lexicos

Jim
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances
2017
Camino Portuguese 2019
Unfortunately as the days tick over it's looking worse and worse and yet, we hold hope as vaccines are being tested by 10 different labs around the world. It's not looking good for this year, not if you want to minimise your risk and risks to others, that's the reality far as I can tell. I'm now seriously thinking about long hikes here at home where I can at least better control my environment and minimise my risk to self and others. Much as I would love to head for Spain in a few weeks and walk that friendly and peaceful path to Santiago, I find myself letting go of the idea, little by little, day by day. Sigh!
 

Airfix

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Past - Sarria to Santiago May 19;
Future-
Sept 19
May20
Great post. For the record we have re-booked our Portuguese Camino for same dates in April/May 2021. We have some great walks around us in South Wales (UK) keeping us sane in these lockdown times but nothing compares to the Camino experience.
Will be keeping an eye on progress, if possible we'll try and go for a week in September this year.
 

Sean Lad

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
2010 to 2019 walked total of 31 caminos
Trying to figure out what '6th Seances' means. Is it a play on your name Sean?
My Croft sean-lad is a Irish slang word meaning old fella
6th sence an extrasensory perception beyond our five recognised senses ie. hearing, taste, sight, smell and touch
to awaken 6th sence 1. Pay attention. Slow down and train yourself to notice even the smallest things around you
2. feel the vibes
3. keep a dream journal
4. Meditate
5. learn to watch and listen closely
6. Spend time in nature
buen camino but in my humble opinion not for a while yet
 

Coachtolife

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Portugues in September
I just wondered

how many of you considered walking the Caminos after this virus scare....

I guess I should have started a poll but can’t remember how to do it 😁



The reason I ask? I have spent (as per usual) the Winter months planning itineraries and now? I have NO desire to walk.



It isn’t just fear - frankly staying where I am now, in the UK, is probably the most dangerous place to be....



I can’t explain it. So I’d love to know how you all feel 🙂

PS when I say NO desire to walk, it isn’t quite right, I am dying to go!!!! But somehow I don’t feel it is even a consideration....
I had a Camino planned this year as well. Sad to say that I too have put it off and am playing the waiting game with this virus.
I hope we all get to walk next year.
 

Lance Chambers

Lance Chambers
Camino(s) past & future
Sarria (2015), SJPdP (2016), Burgos (2017), SJPdP (2018), Burgos (2019), SJPdP (2020?).
Trying to figure out what '6th Seances' means. Is it a play on your name Sean?
That was me. Got the spelling wrong I guess and I can't remember what word I wanted in there today. I was writing something about this next Frances being my 6th when I can get to it.

Mea Culpa.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
That was me. Got the spelling wrong I guess and I can't remember what word I wanted in there today. I was writing something about this next Frances being my 6th when I can get to it.

Mea Culpa.
Sounds like Francés was aurocorrected to Seances
 

Peter Fransiscus

Be a Rainbow in someone else's cloud.
Camino(s) past & future
All that we are is the result of what we have thought.
If Spain permits it, I will be walking in October. I had to cancel my scheduled 4 May start. There is an old saying that tomorrow is promised to no one, and at 75, I hesitate to delay anything any more than absolutely necessary.
Your age place you in the high risk catogary and that said you are a risk for others.
 

mvanert

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Bits and pieces - 2014, 2016, 2018 and 2020?
My plans to walk in August have been moved to May 2021. It won't be the same as my previous caminos but that is not necessarily a bad thing. I look forward to a new experience.
 

SabineP

Camino = Gratitude + Compassion.
Camino(s) past & future
some and then more. see my signature.
Your age place you in the high risk catogary and that said you are a risk for others.
With all respect but I think that a 75 year old person in a good condition ( no obesity, no smoking or excessive alcohol intake and with an active lifestyle ) is in a less high risk category than a 45 year with too much weight,smoking and drinking excessively and out of breath after three k. of walking.

In that aspect everyone is a risk for others seeing a high percentage of people are asymptomatic carriers of the virus.

So @Buz Radican : go for it! I'm pretty sure you will have a mask and disinfecting gel in your pack!
 

David with new Kit!

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF September (2019) SJPP to Logrono
CF May/June (2020) Logrono to ? (Delayed).
Well said @SabineP - We are all adults here and understand the risks, there is no need for others to point out the blindingly obvious.

Everyone has their own criteria for going, or not, we should simply support others if that is what they choose to do (whether that is go, or not go)
 

malingerer

samarkand
Camino(s) past & future
cf (2), de la plata, cp. (2003 -2018)
There is too much yak about good red wine! I make my own and good mead too. Guess what? The medications I take for Meniere's says no alcohol! I have tried a sneaky glass of low alcohol now and then but great god almighty that, to me, is like café con leche, another invention of the devil :) Have a heart folks! I also now use decaff coffee! Verily my sins have found me out! HOWEVER a good stove top of the real MC COY is worth any thing the wretched medical diagnosis can throw at me! I am waiting a consultation by an Otologist to see if they can put a handle on my afflictions but I am prepared to levitate if it would get me on Camino whilst avoiding the travel hassle! :)

Walk soft and stay safe

The Malingerer.
 

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