BeatriceKarjalainen
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You can't![...]The longing back to those roads, charging camino meals and sleep in dormitories with strangers. My god I miss it so much that it brought me into tears. How can I explain to someone who hasn't been there?
Hola Beatrice - you are not the first to pick up this error. In fact the producers picked it up during the first public screening but decided to leave it that way. Also agree about the Camino being "infectious". Buen CaminoThey had added The Way to Netflix so I saw it tonight. It wasn't much of a movie and it was quite irritating when the stops were in the wrong order BUT the infection the camino bug has given me bloomed out in its full power.
That is the same program on PBS that I first learned about the Camino from (spring 2012), and the same path I took to eventually walking the Camino. Very cool.I am always surprised by the number of North Americans whose primary impetus for doing the Camino, at least the Frances, is seeing the film, "The Way." They see the film, decide they want to do it, buy the gear, and show up at St. Jean Pied de Port. A number of these folks, realizing that the filmmakers took liberal literary license are disheartened and some fall out early.
I learned about the Camino first from a Rick Steves travel program shown in the US on "Galicia and the Camino de Santiago." That led me to a web search. The resulting Wikipedia article on the "Way of St. James" contained many useful links, including one for the film. I had pretty much decided that this was something I had to do. But, when I saw the film, I was hooked. However, once I reviewed the Brierley guide, I knew the film was out of sequence, so I knew what to expect in terms of sequencing. Anyway, it is what it is.
"The Way" was produced in 2010. It followed a 2008 journey by the Estavez family to their ancestral lands in Navarra. The Estavez family originally emigrated to the US from Navarra. While there, they learned about the Camino. At that time, they drove sections of the Caminio to get a "feel" for the scope and expanse of the journey.
Afterwards, they decided to find out more about it. They discovered Jack Hitt's book on the Camino Frances. Hitt was a writer who was "between jobs." I recall he walked the Camino Frances in the late 1990s. From there, either Ramon or Martin came up with the idea of a film. The rest is known...
FYI - Martin Sheen's real name is Ramon Antonio Gerardo Estavez. His son, Emilio Estavez, retained the family name during his career. He produced, directed, and co-starred in "The Way." The other sons include Ramon, Carlos (better known as actor Charlie Sheen (the one who is always in some sort of trouble)) and Renee. I think there may be another son named Joe Estavez.
The film is now in general release internationally. One of the more recent translation versions was into French in 2012. In late 2012, I bought it in a Dutch / German / English version, in Belgium to give to several of my Belgian friends. Now that Netflix is available in more EU countries, you can enjoy it via that streaming service.
The last copy I bought online, about six weeks ago, cost only USD 4.70 on Amazon. I like to have a copy on hand for those dark, winter days when I need a Camino fix. I even have it on my notebook and iPod Touch. I needed it to replace a copy of the DVD I loaned out and never got back...no big deal. I do not even remember who I loaned it to.
BTW, "The Way" is also available for download purchase on iTunes.
I hope this helps.
I didn't know the movie existed until after my plane tickets were bought, it was a nurse in a podiatrist office that asked, "did you see 'the' movie?" (isn't that always the way it is asked?). I got it pretty instantly.They had added The Way to Netflix so I saw it tonight. It wasn't much of a movie and it was quite irritating when the stops were in the wrong order BUT the infection the camino bug has given me bloomed out in its full power. The longing back to those roads, charging camino meals and sleep in dormitories with strangers. My god I miss it so much that it brought me into tears. How can I explain to someone who hasn't been there?
But; you have ALREADY started your Camino by commiting yourself: Happy planning!I find it wondrous how the Camino can take over one's life before even setting foot on the trail.
Thank you, Alex. That is so, so true.But; you have ALREADY started your Camino by commiting yourself: Happy planning!
I miss it too!They had added The Way to Netflix so I saw it tonight. It wasn't much of a movie and it was quite irritating when the stops were in the wrong order BUT the infection the camino bug has given me bloomed out in its full power. The longing back to those roads, charging camino meals and sleep in dormitories with strangers. My god I miss it so much that it brought me into tears. How can I explain to someone who hasn't been there?
I agree. I loved the movie errors and all. While walking the Camino I very quickly figured out that the actors may have driven on the Camino, but not walked it. The movie was kind of a mini Camino. The movie led me to many books regarding the Camino and from there it led to plan my own Camino. I had no illusions that it would be tough, but I went on anyway. The Camino kept calling me and I answered its call. I love the movie because It reminds me of where I have been and the joy I experienced while I was there. God willing I'll go back in 2016.I'm with Kanga, love the movie. Have watched it many times. It brings tears to my eyes when I see the sellos and the scenery. Makes my heart ache.
Hola Dennis - well at least you have been able to actually see the camino doco - (Six Ways to Santiago?). We in the world outside of the NSTC TV realm are still waiting for the PAL version.I agree that The Way was mostly entertainment. I saw it before I walked the Camino. The movie Camino Documentary gives one a more honest look at some of the experiences that one might expect to encounter. The best way to learn about the Camino is to go there and walk it. caminodocumentary.org/
I think if you view it "as a movie" not a documentary you get more out of it.I liked the film in general, but it was unpleasant to me the gipsy party episode (flamenco included) and the Hopitalero who wanted to be a bullfighter. That association flamenco/bullfights to the Camino I think is out of place.
Not sure if anyone said the movie changed their life. I think one would be hard pressed to have a movie actually be a life changing event. More like that the movie introduced them to the Camino which in turn led them to walking it which in turn had an impact of sorts on their life. Hopefully a positive impact.I expected a really good movie after all the talk about it. I see a lot of movies and this was certainly not one of the best movies. It brought up memories from my own walk but as a story it was quite dull. I can enjoy slow drama sometimes but the only thing that kept me awake was the game of trying to figure out where they were. As I sometimes do when movies are shot it Trollywood my old hometown Trollhättan now turned into a movie making town.
If I need a camino fix I'll not use the movie. I prefer the lovely photos, blogs and videos posted by members here. They are so much better for that. I might have liked it more if I had been able to recognise my self in any of the characters.
But a note to my self. Do not ever again say on the forum that you didn't like the holy The Way as it was a life changing movie for some other members and a lot if them will try to explain the movie for me. Im not stupid I got the intended message but that doesn't makes it a good movie. But I do prefer horror before drama do I wait for the zombie camino movie ;-)
I loved the movie! To each his own in what they like. I was aware that is wasn't filmed in perfect sequence but I understand filmaking and these things happen. I'm one of those that saw the movie and learned about the Camino by watching it. I just returned a few weeks ago. I had limited time so I was able to walk from SJPDP to Pamplona then fast forward by train to Sarria then walked on to Santiago. It was an amazing experience for the short time that I did have, so I know for sure that I will go back and complete what I didn't do the first time.I expected a really good movie after all the talk about it. I see a lot of movies and this was certainly not one of the best movies. It brought up memories from my own walk but as a story it was quite dull. I can enjoy slow drama sometimes but the only thing that kept me awake was the game of trying to figure out where they were. As I sometimes do when movies are shot it Trollywood my old hometown Trollhättan now turned into a movie making town.
If I need a camino fix I'll not use the movie. I prefer the lovely photos, blogs and videos posted by members here. They are so much better for that. I might have liked it more if I had been able to recognise my self in any of the characters.
But a note to my self. Do not ever again say on the forum that you didn't like the holy The Way as it was a life changing movie for some other members and a lot if them will try to explain the movie for me. Im not stupid I got the intended message but that doesn't makes it a good movie. But I do prefer horror before drama do I wait for the zombie camino movie ;-)
SO people please; Please; PLEASE when will we be able to buy a copy????????
They came to our town a few months ago and showed the movie in our theater. I enjoyed it.
According to their Web site the DVD will be available on 11 November. But it won't be the PAL Version. I have a portable DVD player that will play universal DVDS. Hopefully you can gets your hands on one. It would be very smart of them to make it available in other formats. Hopefully they will.
It is nice to hear from you Mike. Buen Camino
I didn't find anything painful about the Camino. Knees and feet would be a little sore at the end of the day, but nothing truly painful. I thought it was a fairly easy walk.I enjoyed the movie but it was an after the fact thing. My youngest son watched the movie and just had to go with us on our next Camino. He suffered and would never do it again. The movie is all glamour with none of the pains. Some one earlier associated the movie with the increased number of North American walkeers and those who pretend they have walked and I agree. The reference to it as "The Way" some how takes away from the actuality of the Camino De Santiago.
I used to be able to flyfish in solitude until that stupid movie came out. So I guess I can say the Camino suffers from the river runs through it syndrome.
Heck no!"I didn't find anything painful about the Camino. Knees and feet would be a little sore at the end of the day, but nothing truly painful. I thought it was a fairly easy walk."
Aren't you the special one.
I'm looking forward to the release of this film too. Is it true that it wont be available in European dvd format? Do you know if it would play on a computer?
They had added The Way to Netflix so I saw it tonight. It wasn't much of a movie and it was quite irritating when the stops were in the wrong order BUT the infection the camino bug has given me bloomed out in its full power. The longing back to those roads, charging camino meals and sleep in dormitories with strangers. My god I miss it so much that it brought me into tears. How can I explain to someone who hasn't been there?
Hola Dennis - well at least you have been able to actually see the camino doco - (Six Ways to Santiago?). We in the world outside of the NSTC TV realm are still waiting for the PAL version.
SO people please; Please; PLEASE when will we be able to buy a copy????????
HOLD THE PRESS = Right after I posted her email, I received the following correction:
"Hi Dennis!
Just reading the fine print on the Beyond Words website where you can buy our
DVD. It says “All Regions” - so that means it will work on DVD players over here
in Europe. So people can order it from over here! Can you please update your
post?
Thank you! Sally
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Sally F. Bentley
Producer
Walking the Camino; Six Ways to Santiago
http://www.caminodocumentary.org/
+33 6 48 22 65 37
ES"
I hope this helps - Buen Camino
...Did I meet a bull fighting inn owner/crazy hospitalero/or drug using Dutchman? Nope.
He, he. I did.
Also met a crazy hospitalera, a real bad handful; Stay away from Larrasoana between Roncesvalles and Pamplona: The woman in the albergue is a bitch in a really bad way: Rude and unfriendly, and the only alternative in town is a private hostal trying to squeeze 55 Euros out of you, and with only one cafe in the pueblo... Not a pilgrim friendly place, indeed... Edit: For those of you wanting to start up an albergue, Larrasoana should be the perfect place: Shitty competition, easy to outperform, and you'd get a good name & reputation within a few weeks.
As far as I know, any guide edition is prepared about 2 years before it being put on the shelves. In 2010 the mayor of Sarraoña was as dynamic as ever. But the municipality has not been able to improve (finance?) upon the albergue's reputation. Both physical (main building and dependance) remained what they were[...]I have just checked my copy of Brieley(9th ed - 2013) and he is full of praise for this establishment and the energetic mayor of the town.[..]
...Did I meet a bull fighting inn owner/crazy hospitalero/or drug using Dutchman? Nope...
Yeah, I think the director mentions the Wizard of Oz bit if you watch the DVD with the commentary on."The Way" is a remake of the 1939 movie, The Wizard of Oz.
Tom is the new Dorothy, transported by a storm of emotions to a mystical faraway kingdom. There Tom begins a journey (on the Yellow Brick Road) to find his way back to the love and understanding that he once shared with his son, and to find acceptance of his sons passing.
Along the way, Tom meets a Dutchman, who has lost the love and respect of his family and friends, and ultimately his self respect, and is now walking on the YBR to find the courage to be himself.
Next on the way, Tom meets a woman who has lost all love for others, and truly for herself. She walks the YBR to find the love for herself, and thereby to forgive herself.
The scarecrow needed a brain, and so does the Irish writer. A man who knows the story is within him, but cannot find it (even when well oiled with wine and self pity).
The four pilgrims must constantly battle the wicked witch, Fear. For Fear is the only thing that can destroy them all.
When they overcome the witch and her harpies, they arrive at Oz (Santiago) each hoping to be given the secrets to make their dreams come true.
What they find at the end of the Road is that everything they desired, acceptance, love, forgiveness, feeling, understandings, were within them all the time. And that only Fear can hide these things from the true searcher.
Fade Out.
The End
I had to laugh at this one. It is so true. Just lift your head, and wait and see: More signs will be coming your way... It is very strange, but true. It happens.Perhaps it is selective perception, but it seems that a few months ago I had never heard of the Camino and now it is everywhere.
Not possible, I am afraid.My god I miss it so much that it brought me into tears. How can I explain to someone who hasn't been there?
Didn't know there was commentary. Good, a reason to watch again.Yeah, I think the director mentions the Wizard of Oz bit if you watch the DVD with the commentary on.
The commentary is on the DVD version - its a conversation between Martin Shean / Emilio Estevez (his real son) and David Alexanian one of the EPs. For me its actually better than the movie for it explains the background to each significant scene and how the Estevez Family fit into NW Spain (Martin's father was born in Galicia). The end line in the credits - dedicating the film to Emilio's Grandfather really surprised Martin - he did not know it was to be included and when he saw the film - sitting with his sister - it brought tears to both of their eyes.Didn't know there was commentary. Good, a reason to watch again.
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