The Way 2 - Characters

[G_the_D]

I am a self admitted fan of The Way.
No apologies for that.
We know that Jack, Jost, Tom and presumably Daniel will return.
Are there secondary characters that you would like to see in the next film?

I'd love to see Ishmael or Henri Sébastien find a place in the plot line.

Thoughts?

Gord

 

[Vacajoe]

A return cameo by El Ramon! would be enjoyable, even if he simply is in the background of a scene

 

[ChrissyandElise]

A return cameo by El Ramon! would be enjoyable, even if he simply is in the background of a scene

Haha yes! Slightly off topic, but is anyone aware if we can get an El Ramon stamp along the CF? I'll be walking this May and would love this! I am a huge fan of The Way. I know that scene takes place in Torres del Rio at the old Casa Santa Barbara, and have a note in my book about Calle la Carrera (?). Thanks in advance!

 

[Isabelpilgrim]

The El Ramon character was based on a real encounter, I think, but I don't think there is an albergue related to that in Torres del Rio anymore. There also used to be the man that would pour wine down his forehead in Hontanas, he had a stamp with that picture, though that bar has since closed, too.

 

[Kathar1na]

is anyone aware if we can get an El Ramon stamp along the CF

Which "El Ramon" stamp are you hoping to get? The gimmick sello shown in the movie "The Way" or the actual sello of Ramón Sostres?

Mr Sostres died about 20 years ago, before the movie was produced in 2009. He had apparently no next of kin. It surprised me that the movie makers chose to use his actual first name.

 

[Vacajoe]

n. It surprised me that the movie makers chose to use his actual first name.

Ramón is actually Martin Sheen’s real name and supposedly the origin of that character’s name in the movie.

In 2019, there was a youth walking the CF who had duplicated that sello and was selling a stamp in your credential in exchange for a donation to fund his walk. Problematic on several levels, but I give him an “A” for creativity

 

[Bradypus]

Ramón is actually Martin Sheen’s real name and supposedly the origin of that character’s name in the movie

No. The scenes with "Ramon" in the movie are based on a section of Jack Hitt's book "Off The Road" about a 1993 pilgrimage where Hitt meets a famous eccentric character of the Camino at the time - Ramon Sostres.

 

[Kathar1na]

No. The scenes with "Ramon" in the movie are based on a section of Jack Hitt's book "Off The Road" about a 1993 pilgrimage where Hitt meets a famous eccentric character of the Camino at the time - Ramon Sostres.

Yes. Edward F. Stanton who must have walked around the same time as Jack Hitt also describes eccentric Ramón Sostres in Torres del Rio and his house Santa Barbara (look at the inscription on the gimmick sello!) and its open air "bathroom". He was a well known Camino personality at the time. Stanton describes him as eccentric but gentle and not as crazy as portrayed in the movie.

 

[Kathar1na]

I know that scene takes place in Torres del Rio at the old Casa Santa Barbara, and have a note in my book about Calle la Carrera (?). Thanks in advance!

The movie scene takes place in a different house in Torres del Rio. Señor Sostres' own home, the Casa Santa Barbara, has been demolished. But enough of that. It is better to concentrate on the characters in "The Way" and which ones one wants to see again in The Way II. They are ALL fictive.

 

[WalkinRon]

Captain Henri would be the secondary character that I'd like to see again. He was very kind to Tom and I think he said that he would like to walk the Camino once more.

 

[CaminoPhotos]

Captain Henri would be the secondary character that I'd like to see again. He was very kind to Tom and I think he said that he would like to walk the Camino once more.

That would be a great scene to see him walk the Camino again!

 

[Gringazolana]

What about the hospitalera who never got a chance to walk, or the Roma boy who stole the backpack?

 

[G_the_D]

What about the hospitalera who never got a chance to walk, or the Roma boy who stole the backpack?

I'd love an update on Ishmael's son. That might be a great side plot!

 

[Rick of Rick and Peg]

Father Frank (Matt Clark, a friend of Martin Sheen).

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Father Frank (Matt Clark, a friend of Martin Sheen).

Rick, I wanted to mention him, too, but couldn't remember his name. The other person that came to my mind was the compassionate policeman in SJPdP who explained to Tom about the Camino.

 

[G_the_D]

Rick, I wanted to mention him, too, but couldn't remember his name. The other person that came to my mind was the compassionate policeman in SJPdP who explained to Tom about the Camino.

That was Captain Henri Sébastien. He would be a great return character.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

That was Captain Henri Sébastien. He would be a great return character.

I haven't watched that uplifting film for several years now. Thanks for providing his name.

 

[chris_yyc]

So "The Way" is basically the "Wizard of Oz": Tom is Dorothy, the Belgian is the cowardly lion (no courage), the Canadian the Tin man (no heart), and the Irishman is the Scarecrow (no brain) all on the Yellow Brick Road (the Camino). It'd be good to 'riff' on the theme by having Tom go back with the same group for a reunion after several years and face full-on the growth of the commercial / trendy aspects of the Camino vs the meaning. Maybe an initial disheartening, followed by a spiritual reawakening ...

I always remember (with embarrassment) my initial bad feelings towards those who hoped on fresh for the last 100km or so on my first Camino, making everything a bed race and without the camaraderie and shared challenges of the past few weeks. But really, who am I to define who a true pilgrim is? Maybe that's the lesson of the sequel.

 

[David61]

the Belgian is the cowardly lion

Dutch, Joost from Amsterdam

 

[chris_yyc]

Dutch, Joost from Amsterdam

Doh! It been a long day

 

[Camo]

That would be a great scene to see him walk the Camino again!

Well another thread here says Tom heads off to do some good for OTHERS pro bono as an eye doctor in the jungle some place for Doctors without Borders (or maybe Fred Hollows Foundation) or whoever rather than return to a Camino trail - but we are also told Jack contacts him with some "ground breaking news" so we need to wait to see if that takes him back to the Frances.

But as the family Estevez comes from a town beside Tui I would like to see Marty do a Camino from there to make up for his big regret of changing his name to Sheen as the follow up "father and son" theme.

 

[Peregrinopaul]

Well another thread here says Tom heads off to do some good for OTHERS pro bono as an eye doctor in the jungle some place for Doctors without Borders (or maybe Fred Hollows Foundation) or whoever rather than return to a Camino trail - but we are also told Jack contacts him with some "ground breaking news" so we need to wait to see if that takes him back to the Frances.

The pre-production info states that it’s the Norte.

 

[William Garza]

It would be interesting to have a new group shadowed by the original

 

[SabsP]

Well another thread here says Tom heads off to do some good for OTHERS pro bono as an eye doctor in the jungle some place for Doctors without Borders (or maybe Fred Hollows Foundation) or whoever rather than return to a Camino trail - but we are also told Jack contacts him with some "ground breaking news" so we need to wait to see if that takes him back to the Frances.

But as the family Estevez comes from a town beside Tui I would like to see Marty do a Camino from there to make up for his big regret of changing his name to Sheen as the follow up "father and son" theme.

It would make reading simpler if you would put the names of Tom and the other characters into brackets seeing they refer to fictional persons.
With Marty I can only presume you mean the actor Martin Sheen?

Then again, I am not a movie person so this whole thread confuses me completely.

 

[lalaone]

I was taught that “The Wizard of Oz” was a movie about 1930s monetary policy (the Yellow Brick Road = the gold standard). Imagine my confusion now. Who is Tom, who is Martin Sheen, and who is Franklin Delano Roosevelt? I like SabsP's bracket idea - [Tom] - it does help, lol

I loved "The Way" and look forward to the sequel, so here's throwing in my votes with others for Father Frank and Captain Henri Sebastien.

 

[Kathar1na]

Who is Tom, who is Martin Sheen, and who is Franklin Delano Roosevelt?

Marty is Back from The Future, and Ramón and his son Daniel-Emilio have Irish passports due to the past.

 

[Camo]

I was taught that “The Wizard of Oz” was a movie about 1930s monetary policy (the Yellow Brick Road = the gold standard). Imagine my confusion now. Who is Tom, who is Martin Sheen, and who is Franklin Delano Roosevelt? I like SabsP's bracket idea - [Tom] - it does help, lol

I loved "The Way" and look forward to the sequel, so here's throwing in my votes with others for Father Frank and Captain Henri Sebastien.

Pity about Sarah who seems to have been fully "reformed" in her The Way "outcomes" (as we must say now for 2020s monetary policies) so we don't see her any more.

She will in fact do another Camino but it will be like Shirley McClain and she will keep reciting her mantra of "do not talk to anyone".

But all seems to point to another conclusion at the Cathedral so it will be interesting to see if the front door is opened again or they are forced to go in the back door and hug the statue instead of the finger hole routine.

And as a gesture to advancing feminism in the church Sarah will pop up at the end as one of the "rope pulling persons" on the Botafumeiro thing.

 

[dick bird]

She will in fact

You cannot apply the words ¨in fact¨ to a non-existent person.

 

[William Garza]

No waters are ever the same
Time and tide will have taken the characters far from who they were
Whether or not they were transformed..did they find resolution?
May we see the waters in a different time but same place
What currents run in the flow of souls toward the sea