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The article says that the man himself called for help and reported that he was lost. He was unable to give his exact location and what he could describe of the area was ambiguous. So search teams were sent to several possible locations.
I don't think this is correct. AlertCOPS uses the normal mobile telephone service and relies on you having a valid SIM installed. It appears it cannot work just on a data connexion. The Advanced Mobile Location service (AML) is the same. It sends an SMS message when you make a telephone call to an emergency number. Note that different countries have more than just the 112 number programmed into their systems as part of the AML arrangements.In Spain, it is advisable to also have AlertCops (for communication with police and rescue, IF you have an internet data connection)
I don't understand the details, but recall some discussion that led me to believe that there is a specific data need. I haven't pursued it further because I always get a local SIM card to have both phone and internet connected. However, I am happy to be corrected, and have edited my post to indicate my uncertainty.I don't think this is correct. AlertCOPS uses the normal mobile telephone service and relies on you having a valid SIM installed. It appears it cannot work just on a data connexion.
This seems overly complex. I think that the simplest approach is to have the Emergency Location Service or its iOS equivalent enabled. Then when you dial an enabled emergency service your phone will automatically send a location message via SMS, and it will appear in the control centre within a few seconds. Even if you have the Emergency Location Service turned off, the protocol allows it to be turned on, but this will delay determining your location and sending the SMS, But even then, it should do so in less than 25 seconds of the call being initiated.In an emergency, call 112. The person who answers will ask you if you have WhatsApp installed on your phone. If you do, and since they already have your phone number (since you called them), they will send you a WhatsApp message.
I am very grateful that you have resurrected this subject bcause I read the the sentence quoted, and thought "Do I actually know how to do this on my iPhone?" Well, actually, no, it turned out. So, read on, Paul.By the way, finding your location can be handy for nonemergency use...
Turns out to be good advice in my case. I looked for LOCATION in my phone, and at first couldn't find it. It appears at a third level in Settings>Privacy and Security>Location Services. Although my LS was indeed turned on, and at the next level Share My Location was also on, I was picturing myself in a ditch with a broken bone wondering "How the **** do I actually share my location?"Being familiar with it ahead of time can save you a lot of stress if you ever have the bad luck to need it.
This very reassuring. It had also occurred to me that an extra hazard for me in an emergency might be that I can't find my glasses, but dialling 112 should certainly not be a problem, and I now assume that the phone does the rest.I think that the simplest approach is to have the Emergency Location Service or its iOS equivalent enabled. Then when you dial an enabled emergency service your phone will automatically send a location message via SMS, and it will appear in the control centre within a few seconds.
Thank you for spurring me to look into this.This seems overly complex. I think that the simplest approach is to have the Emergency Location Service or its iOS equivalent enabled.
This seems overly complex. I think that the simplest approach is to have the Emergency Location Service or its iOS equivalent enabled. Then when you dial an enabled emergency service your phone will automatically send a location message via SMS, and it will appear in the control centre within a few seconds. Even if you have the Emergency Location Service turned off, the protocol allows it to be turned on, but this will delay determining your location and sending the SMS, But even then, it should do so in less than 25 seconds of the call being initiated.
I never noticed this, but yes!You can dial it without unlocking the phone
Even if people do not turn the Emergency Location Service on, it seems it will be turned on automatically when you initiate a call to a recognized emergency number. It appears that the service is then turned off again at some point either during or immediately after the call if it had to be turned on.It is a good reminder to make sure that is ON, when I am walking the Camino, as a basic safety measure, even if I don't want Google to follow me around at home.
Thanks!section 10 of TS 122 101
Thank you for the link. The standard make clear three things:Edited: the real freaks can consult section 10 of TS 122 101
I believe that in Spain this is no longer the case as AML, Advanced Mobile Location [for emergencies] is implemented. The steps that they requested that you do for them are now likely done automatically if using supported smartphones and operating systems and most of the ones we use are, even older ones (oh, and you have the correct user settings).In an emergency, call 112. The person who answers will ask you if you have WhatsApp installed on your phone. If you do, and since they already have your phone number (since you called them), they will send you a WhatsApp message. You respond to their WhatsApp by sharing your location. If you don’t know how to do that, they will instruct you. But this is something that you can easily learn ahead of time — practice with friends!
Yes, I learned that too after posting my comment. Thanks to those who helped me figure this out!I believe that in Spain this is no longer the case as AML, Advanced Mobile Location [for emergencies] is implemented.
I do note that the Australian TripleZero agency has identified circumstances where it might not be technically possible to obtain the handset location using the AML service. I don't know how common these might be nor do I know if the same issues exist elsewhere. How I interpret that is that were that to happen in Spain, it would still be necessary for the FFCCSE to obtain that information from you, eg by WhatsApp if you have it installed.I believe that in Spain this is no longer the case as AML, Advanced Mobile Location [for emergencies] is implemented.
Note that what3words is not used by the emergency services in Spain and Portugal. My recollection is that in Europe, only the UK and Germany have implemented it in their emergency service organizations.The ‘what3words’ App has divided the world, (yes, the world!) into 3 metre squares, each located with a unique combination of 3 words.
Or for those of us who are staunch Meta refusniks, know how to access your location information, and your options for sending it without WhatsApp, "in case." Coordinates can always be transmitted verbally if need be.I am not entirely convinced that there won't be some limited circumstances where @peregrina2000's advice to have WhatsApp installed is spot on the money.
I suppose you are talking about one built into the iPhone. If so, yes. I think it would be easier to give your location in decimal degrees though so if I had this I would try to change things in the settings if it possible.Just a coment.
I notice when the Compass App is opened, it shows the coordinates. Is this enough information to provide the emergency people our location?
The DMS format of the location coordinates of the built-in Compass app on iPhones cannot be changed to other formats.suppose you are talking about one builtin to the iPhone. If so, yes. I think it would be easier to give your location in decimal degrees though so if I had this I would try to change things in the settings if it possible.
Sorry, curmudgeonly.muppet.owners is not found. Do you mean ///television.sock.puppets?I think the attitude of the muppets who own/run it is curmudgeonly
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