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The Guardian article reminds me of the Dolores Redondo trilogy, all of which takes place in the País Vasco. I see there are movie versions of all of them, and if the movies are as good as the books, they would be good watching experiences. I am not entirely sure what the definition of "noir" includes, though.

We have had some forum discussions about these books (I've linked to only one), and most of us who have walked the Camino Baztán really enjoyed them. And now that I think about it, there is actually another Dolores Redondo book that takes place in Galicia. All This I will Give to You.

 

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The Guardian article reminds me of the Dolores Redondo trilogy, all of which takes place in the País Vasco. I see there are movie versions of all of them, and if the movies are as good as the books, they would be good watching experiences. I am not entirely sure what the definition of "noir" includes, though.

We have had some forum discussions about these books (I've linked to only one), and most of us who have walked the Camino Baztán really enjoyed them. And now that I think about it, there is actually another Dolores Redondo book that takes place in Galicia. All This I will Give to You.

"Noir" is a filmic genre... usually a detective/gum-shoe story (The Big Sleep; Casablanca) etc, but it can also be a morality tale of family life (Mildred Pierce, for example), and the genre repeats in some Science Fiction morality stories (the first Blade Runner, for example)... and is defined by the presence of visual light/dark in juxtaposition... lots of shadows on actors faces... lots of dark corners in the places they visit.... tons of rain...
Stories of good and evil... complicated by characters whose situations might compel morally questionable actions.
 

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"Noir" is a filmic genre... usually a detective/gum-shoe story (The Big Sleep; Casablanca) etc, but it can also be a morality tale of family life (Mildred Pierce, for example), and the genre repeats in some Science Fiction morality stories (the first Blade Runner, for example)... and is defined by the presence of visual light/dark in juxtaposition... lots of shadows on actors faces... lots of dark corners in the places they visit.... tons of rain...
Stories of good and evil... complicated by characters whose situations might compel morally questionable actions.
Well, the work of Dolores Redondo definitely fits that description! If those Baztán trilogy movies are available on Netflix, you might enjoy them.
 
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Well, the work of Dolores Redondo definitely fits that description! If those Baztán trilogy movies are available on Netflix, you might enjoy them.
Watched the Baztan trilogy. Brilliant series...now we are just waiting to walk the Baztan Camino!
Faye walker....both Galecian films also wonderful.... " .Bitter Daisies and the Mess you left behind". and from what I remember, the second one was dubbed .....I think...
Beautiful scenery and I believe some scenes were shot around the river Sil, near the Invierno.
 

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The Guardian article reminds me of the Dolores Redondo trilogy, all of which takes place in the País Vasco. I see there are movie versions of all of them, and if the movies are as good as the books, they would be good watching experiences. I am not entirely sure what the definition of "noir" includes, though.

We have had some forum discussions about these books (I've linked to only one), and most of us who have walked the Camino Baztán really enjoyed them. And now that I think about it, there is actually another Dolores Redondo book that takes place in Galicia. All This I will Give to You.

Actually, Laurie, All this I will Give to you is set in the are of Belesar/Chantada/Rodeiro in Camino de Invierno, you will enjoy that part for sure! OTher than that, this novel is lacking the character of the Baztan Trilogy, still, it depicts the wine harvest and the camelia plantations in the are, surely will bring memories to you!
 

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The Guardian article reminds me of the Dolores Redondo trilogy, all of which takes place in the País Vasco. I see there are movie versions of all of them, and if the movies are as good as the books, they would be good watching experiences. I am not entirely sure what the definition of "noir" includes, though.

We have had some forum discussions about these books (I've linked to only one), and most of us who have walked the Camino Baztán really enjoyed them. And now that I think about it, there is actually another Dolores Redondo book that takes place in Galicia. All This I will Give to You.

Has anyone come across an English translation of Crime en Compostela? The Guardian article on Galician noir says that was kind of the start of it. Would LOVE to read it!
 
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I read about book pricing once online. It was talking about how sometimes the prices are set by an algorithm, not actually by a person. And it depends on what the algorithm thinks about its rarity and desirability. I’ve seen some art monographs priced at thousands of dollars, but then when I’ve looked around at individual dealer sites (where they actually expect to sell it) they are a fraction of that. You can see that on this ad, if you look at the other sellers option, below the listing, there’s a copy for €13.
 

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I read about book pricing once online. It was talking about how sometimes the prices are set by an algorithm, not actually by a person. And it depends on what the algorithm thinks about its rarity and desirability. I’ve seen some art monographs priced at thousands of dollars, but then when I’ve looked around at individual dealer sites (where they actually expect to sell it) they are a fraction of that. You can see that on this ad, if you look at the other sellers option, below the listing, there’s a copy for €13.
Yes..this might have been a rare copy (and probably not a translation) or be subject to the algorithm and a book could be obtained for less than the shipping of this one.
 
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I read about book pricing once online. It was talking about how sometimes the prices are set by an algorithm, not actually by a person. And it depends on what the algorithm thinks about its rarity and desirability. I’ve seen some art monographs priced at thousands of dollars, but then when I’ve looked around at individual dealer sites (where they actually expect to sell it) they are a fraction of that. You can see that on this ad, if you look at the other sellers option, below the listing, there’s a copy for €13.
What gets wild is when algorithmic pricing is based on the pricing at another seller, which is also set algorithmically. Sometimes this causes a pricing spiral where each algorithm pushes the other's price up and they can get to absurd levels. For example, an algorithm at bookseller A may be "every minute look at bookseller B's price and price our copy $1 more than theirs" while at the same time, bookseller B's algorithm says "every minute look at bookseller A's price and price our copy $1 more than theirs". After a few unattended weeks, the prices get pretty high.
 

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What gets wild is when algorithmic pricing is based on the pricing at another seller, which is also set algorithmically. Sometimes this causes a pricing spiral where each algorithm pushes the other's price up and they can get to absurd levels. For example, an algorithm at bookseller A may be "every minute look at bookseller B's price and price our copy $1 more than theirs" while at the same time, bookseller B's algorithm says "every minute look at bookseller A's price and price our copy $1 more than theirs". After a few unattended weeks, the prices get pretty high.
I shall watch this one with amused interest.
Edit: just looked and it is now listed as out of stock. Someone must have dived in and bagged themselves a bargain.
 

Hurry Krishna

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I read about book pricing once online. It was talking about how sometimes the prices are set by an algorithm, not actually by a person. And it depends on what the algorithm thinks about its rarity and desirability. I’ve seen some art monographs priced at thousands of dollars, but then when I’ve looked around at individual dealer sites (where they actually expect to sell it) they are a fraction of that. You can see that on this ad, if you look at the other sellers option, below the listing, there’s a copy for €13.
Much better! Thank you🙏🏽
 

Hurry Krishna

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Yes..this might have been a rare copy (and probably not a translation) or be subject to the algorithm and a book could be obtained for less than the shipping of this one.
I took. Closer look. Both are in Spanish - which sadly I don’t read.
 
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I shall watch this one with amused interest.
Edit: just looked and it is now listed as out of stock. Someone must have dived in and bagged themselves a bargain.
Someone on the forum probably swooped in and bought it after seeing the link you posted...you should get a finder's fee, but I'll bet you won't see a dime.
 

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Has anyone come across an English translation of Crime en Compostela? The Guardian article on Galician noir says that was kind of the start of it. Would LOVE to read it!
@Hurry Krishna: Crime en Compostela has not been translated into English. The author, Carlos Reigosa, is bilingual Galician-Spanish. "Crime en Compostela" was published in Galician, the author himself translated it into Spanish and it was also translated into Catalan. The book earned him a prize for literature. The Spanish version is available on Amazon websites as a Kindle version for around € 3,00. So let's see whether my Spanish has become good enough to tackle it. A buyer comments on Amazon: The mixture of crime novel [novela negra] and guide (monuments and culture) of Santiago de Compostela makes it a different and delightful novel. Let's see whether this buyer is right.

@Faye Walker: Thanks for posting this. It's always nice to learn something about Galicia. And other things. Nordic noir - I had never heard of it before but it's good to have a name for the genre of somewhat weird police TV series playing in locations in Denmark or Sweden or thereabouts that I occasionally came across on one or the other channel on my TV screen. ☺️
 
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