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I second that of course ..Sometimes you just feel the urge to punch someone who does this kind of stupidity!
Camino rageSometimes you just feel the urge to punch someone who does this kind of stupidity!
I can only change myself, so I refuse to be vexed.I really don’t know how we change this, but change it must.
I will admit here that in Sarria, I bought a can of white spray paint and - where appropriate and where it wouldn't show up as bad as the graffiti - I "erased" it. Especially that damn "Wild Sheep."
That compulsion will soon disappear; they are almost all gone!! They were a bad idea by the Xunta.people who feel the compulsion to steal the little brass plates from the milage markers
You can,t fix stupid!!! The blame lies with the parent's who failed to instill in their children the norms of a responsible society. Again you can,t fix stupid if it is taught as a norm.My wife and I are currently walking through Galicia and have noticed that virtually every distance marker has graffiti spoiling it - who does this?!
I particularly noticed the one shown...how mean and judgemental...and ridiculous. I am pretty sure that Jesus didn’t start from SJPP either...or Rome...or anyone’s front door. In fact I’m pretty sure he never went to Santiago de Compostela!!
Everyone does their own Camino, at their own pace etc etc and everyone should let everyone else do their own too.
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I have a scenario in my mind of some idiot who stole a brass plate showing it off to his/her friends, or perhaps having it displayed in his/her home.As much as the graffiti annoys me what really gets my goat is the people who feel the compulsion to steal the little brass plates from the milage markers. I'd care ever so slightly less if I thought someone was going to get home and have some kind of beautiful momento but what would anyone even do with such a thing?
The old one were; the distance was etched in the granite. You could take a picture, but you could not take marker!local governments or organizations will simply have to design the markers and roadway signs to be in effect, "child proof".
My wife and I are currently walking through Galicia and have noticed that virtually every distance marker has graffiti spoiling it - who does this?!
I particularly noticed the one shown...how mean and judgemental...and ridiculous. I am pretty sure that Jesus didn’t start from SJPP either...or Rome...or anyone’s front door. In fact I’m pretty sure he never went to Santiago de Compostela!!
Everyone does their own Camino, at their own pace etc etc and everyone should let everyone else do their own too.
Buen Camino to allView attachment 42268
As much as the graffiti annoys me what really gets my goat is the people who feel the compulsion to steal the little brass plates from the milage markers. I'd care ever so slightly less if I thought someone was going to get home and have some kind of beautiful momento but what would anyone even do with such a thing?
I wonder if venting in here is the right place?
I agree with you all, and over the last few years I have tried my hardest to grasp on to perfection spurred from the imperfection of others, which causes just more dissatisfaction in myself, causing more emotional turmoil. Don’t waste your own energies and emotions of these people or their imperfect ways. Search for your own balance of mind and feel sorry for those around us in society that don’t feel as we do about our fellow human. Nothing is permanent, be satisfied in knowing this, rather than encouraging permanent dissatisfaction of society that you cannot control.
Buen Camino
I wonder if venting in here is the right place?
I agree with you all, and over the last few years I have tried my hardest to grasp on to perfection spurred from the imperfection of others, which causes just more dissatisfaction in myself, causing more emotional turmoil. Don’t waste your own energies and emotions of these people or their imperfect ways. Search for your own balance of mind and feel sorry for those around us in society that don’t feel as we do about our fellow human. Nothing is permanent, be satisfied in knowing this, rather than encouraging permanent dissatisfaction of society that you cannot control.
Buen Camino
I disagree. The only thing evil needs is for good people to do and say nothing. Is it okay for someone to key your car, knowing your car isn’t permanent? Or should we stand by ‘peacefully’ and allow racism, sexism, hate crimes and so forth because we don’t believe we can or should “change people” or that we have a responsibility or the power to do so?
I’m greatly offended by these disrespects of the Camino. It insults the country that hosts us as pilgrims and it insults the religion and history of the Camino. It’s not difficult to start a campaign of awareness. It’s not difficult to empower people who observe these things to stand up for what is right. Together we can stop this - or at least limit it. But by throwing up our hands in helplessness, we create an environment for this to flourish.
Maybe at age 60 I’m just old fashion but I too don’t get graffiti or the need to leave one’s Mark on WC walls, bunk bed slates, road signs (except yellow arrows), camino markers, stone/wood/aluminum fences & walls OR homes along the Way. Ok some graffiti in road underpasses is art but all the personal declarations of love to another pilgrim posted on camino stone markers, motivational phrases.......I anticipate this will worsen in coming years as more tourists walk El Camino
That angered me, too, it is so disrespectful. Not just the brass km markers, also many of the square ceramic shells above them were popped off.As much as the graffiti annoys me what really gets my goat is the people who feel the compulsion to steal the little brass plates from the milage markers. I'd care ever so slightly less if I thought someone was going to get home and have some kind of beautiful momento but what would anyone even do with such a thing?
I reckon Jesus would have got a bus from Sarria
Jill - Here its the same proceedure ever year at the beginning of March. This Year I have bought anti graffiti film which you fix with a hot air drier maybe it will work and save a can of spray next YearI will admit here that in Sarria, I bought a can of white spray paint and - where appropriate and where it wouldn't show up as bad as the graffiti - I "erased" it. Especially that damn "Wild Sheep."
guess what I actually meant by this was tontey to help find your own peace with people around you and not live a life of frustration. I do agree that the situation is abhorant, so please apologies if you took this as me being a bit wishy washyI disagree. The only thing evil needs is for good people to do and say nothing. Is it okay for someone to key your car, knowing your car isn’t permanent? Or should we stand by ‘peacefully’ and allow racism, sexism, hate crimes and so forth because we don’t believe we can or should “change people” or that we have a responsibility or the power to do so?
I’m greatly offended by these disrespects of the Camino. It insults the country that hosts us as pilgrims and it insults the religion and history of the Camino. It’s not difficult to start a campaign of awareness. It’s not difficult to empower people who observe these things to stand up for what is right. Together we can stop this - or at least limit it. But by throwing up our hands in helplessness, we create an environment for this to flourish.
'Wild Sheep'! I'd forgotten all about that. It's taken me right back there (I shared your feelings by the way )I will admit here that in Sarria, I bought a can of white spray paint and - where appropriate and where it wouldn't show up as bad as the graffiti - I "erased" it. Especially that damn "Wild Sheep."
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guess what I actually meant by this was tontey to help find your own peace with people around you and not live a life of frustration. I do agree that the situation is abhorant, so please apologies if you took this as me being a bit wishy washy
....Or maybe a chariot?
You might have to start in Madrid or Barcelona, cities covered in graffiti, but almost completely lacking pilgrims.I’m willing to get involved
No way man,chariots were well expensive,bus def much cheaper.
Tim, You and your wife are the kind of peregrinos that I would have liked to share a meal and a glass of vino Tinto on the camino. Thank you for the kind thought.I remember seeing it. I think somebody was feeling clever, or momentarily superior, and possibly regrets doing it. I like to think someone somewhere would like to go back and scape it off. My wife and I turned it into a game for several miles — list all the other things Jesus didn’t do. He didn’t look down on the poor and needy. He didn’t speak unkindly, even to people who were harsh to him. He didn’t judge people by appearances. It ended up being a thought provoking game for us. Just another lesson from the Camino on kindness, forgiveness, and thankfulness. Blessings can come from strange places.
Those wild sheep are in their teritoryI will admit here that in Sarria, I bought a can of white spray paint and - where appropriate and where it wouldn't show up as bad as the graffiti - I "erased" it. Especially that damn "Wild Sheep."
I appreciated your post, and thought back to the comment I made in my pilgrimage journal from my 2016 camino:My wife and I are currently walking through Galicia and have noticed that virtually every distance marker has graffiti spoiling it - who does this?!
I particularly noticed the one shown...how mean and judgemental...and ridiculous. I am pretty sure that Jesus didn’t start from SJPP either...or Rome...or anyone’s front door. In fact I’m pretty sure he never went to Santiago de Compostela!!
Everyone does their own Camino, at their own pace etc etc and everyone should let everyone else do their own too.
Buen Camino to allView attachment 42268
Someone is obviously tired of all the "Turigrinos" ruining their environment. Just smile and move on. And think of it as modern day petroglyphs...My wife and I are currently walking through Galicia and have noticed that virtually every distance marker has graffiti spoiling it - who does this?!
I particularly noticed the one shown...how mean and judgemental...and ridiculous. I am pretty sure that Jesus didn’t start from SJPP either...or Rome...or anyone’s front door. In fact I’m pretty sure he never went to Santiago de Compostela!!
Everyone does their own Camino, at their own pace etc etc and everyone should let everyone else do their own too.
Buen Camino to allView attachment 42268
Those old, solid and practical markers are great. Last forever and could be cleaned up from time to time with a portable high pressure wash and the shells and arrows repainted yellow. Somebody in the local government thought otherwise I guess and tried to fix something that wasn't broken.The old one were; the distance was etched in the granite. You could take a picture, but you could not take marker!
Oh...you've become a graffiti writer yourself!I will admit here that in Sarria, I bought a can of white spray paint and - where appropriate and where it wouldn't show up as bad as the graffiti - I "erased" it. Especially that damn "Wild Sheep."
Ha!the graffiti that falls squarely in the category of “bullshit camino philosophy.”
That sounds rather cliche-ish, ha ha.Maybe we should stop looking at the minutiae and look outward... or just smile when passing by one of these 21st century petroglyphs and continue on your journey.
We walked the Norte last fall and saw very little graffiti or vandalizing of the markers until we reached the Camino Francais. The vandalism is a sign of disrespect of the person within themselves. It's a shame it is manifested outwardly for all to seeMy wife and I are currently walking through Galicia and have noticed that virtually every distance marker has graffiti spoiling it - who does this?!
I particularly noticed the one shown...how mean and judgemental...and ridiculous. I am pretty sure that Jesus didn’t start from SJPP either...or Rome...or anyone’s front door. In fact I’m pretty sure he never went to Santiago de Compostela!!
Everyone does their own Camino, at their own pace etc etc and everyone should let everyone else do their own too.
Buen Camino to allView attachment 42268
And especially toilet paper!The litter and trash everywhere is what gets me. I pick it up when I can, but often it’s just too much. It often looks pilgrim-related, too (water bottles, picnic food wrappers, candy wrappers, etc).
The litter and trash everywhere is what gets me. I pick it up when I can, but often it’s just too much. It often looks pilgrim-related, too (water bottles, picnic food wrappers, candy wrappers, etc).
Don't go 10 meters into the woods, any woods!! The Camino is almost a 750 km latrine. It is not just the bears...How about all the toilet tissue left in the bushes.
In my experience there is not that much graffiti on the "other" caminos de Santiago. Just the normal stuff you get in virtually any city in the west, and I never noticed anything specifically pilgrim-related.Finally - and in some ways most interestingly - is the graffiti that falls squarely in the category of “bullshit camino philosophy.” This is ubiquitous on the road to St. James."
And is simply built in as the numbers increase. Hopefully, this will become less fashionable and just calm down a bitGraffiti on the Camino is probably one of the most disappointing things to see.
By-product of the selfish and immature.
"There are people who like to criticize others but they do not like being criticized."In my experience there is not that much graffiti on the "other" caminos de Santiago. Just the normal stuff you get in virtually any city in the west, and I never noticed anything specifically pilgrim-related.
On the Camino Portugues del Interior near Lamego I did see that somebody had taken the trouble to write in 2' high orange letters (running out of space), the phrase "Hay gente que gostar de criticar os otros ma nao gostam de ser criticados." It probably qualifies as "bullshit camino philosophy", but is difficult to disagree with, even for people who don't feel the need to cover a wall with it.
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