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Why isn't Asia listed?
Interesting. As a percentage of population Ireland would top the list. And Australia second, I think.
As a Brit I find the number of pilgrims from Ireland on the Caminos quite extraordinary. Last year the pilgrim office recorded 8,241 pilgrims from the UK and 6,671 from Ireland. Not so far apart in numbers. But by population the UK is thirteen times larger than Ireland!As a percentage of population Ireland would top the list.
Sounds about right!!Interesting. As a percentage of population Ireland would top the list. And Australia second, I think.
Stab in the dark… Ireland a lot more religious country than UK? Think Ireland has slightly younger demographic?As a Brit I find the number of pilgrims from Ireland on the Caminos quite extraordinary. Last year the pilgrim office recorded 8,241 pilgrims from the UK and 6,671 from Ireland. Not so far apart in numbers. But by population the UK is thirteen times larger than Ireland!
Certainly true historically and church attendance is still significantly higher in Ireland than in the UK. And it has been a predominantly Catholic country and the cultural and historical influence of the Catholic church remains strong. So I'm not surprised that Irish pilgrims are a significant feature on the Caminos. I do find the sheer scale of the difference in numbers between the UK and Ireland remarkable though. Especially as so many of those walking the Caminos now have no particular personal religious affiliation or interest,Stab in the dark… Ireland a lot more religious country than UK? Think Ireland has slightly younger demographic?
Yes 100% agree!! It is quite remarkable.Certainly true historically and church attendance is still significantly higher in Ireland than in the UK. And it has been a predominantly Catholic country and the cultural and historical influence of the Catholic church remains strong. So I'm not surprised that Irish pilgrims are a significant feature on the Caminos. I do find the sheer scale of the difference in numbers between the UK and Ireland remarkable though. Especially as so many of those walking the Caminos now have no particular personal religious affiliation or interest,
AFAIK the term refers to the geographical formation, the archipelago. Not limited to territory under British sovereignty."British Isles"
What is the defintion of "active user" in the forum software?This is what my statistics say:
I get that, and we enjoy seeing those locations in the member profiles. However, I was curious to check the validity of some impressions that have occasionally been expressed by forum members - Is the forum overwhelmingly dominated, on a day-to-day basis, by North Americans?I get that it's a rough pole, but there are members living Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. Fyi I'm in Indonesia.
Yes, one might call it laziness on my part. I was aware that I would run into difficulties in defining the continents (e.g. What is North America, What is Asia? Do I include Antarctica?) I am rather particular about that sort of thing and I knew I would get it wrong, whatever I did! So, I took the easy way out and had a category for "Other."why not all the continents?
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German by birth but living in the far North of Sweden now
"British Isles"
North America.
Long Beach, California
North America- Montreal, Quebec Canada
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California, USA,
North America (Canada)
Not that I am suggesting anyone does it, as it is taking a bit of fun far too seriously, but I guess for me the question. ‘Is the forum NA dominated’ is more about posts rather than posters. NA posters seem rather more prolific than others. No harm or surprise in that. I guess folks from that region have more to organise, have a much bigger population, and I am sure that are a myriad of other reasons too. So for example, as a very frequent visitor to USA, religion is far more openly discussed than, and on TV than in Europe, so that a topic I think that is another, albeit minor factor, in maybe conversations here. Plenty more too. Very interesting tho and thank you for setting up the poll!I get that, and we enjoy seeing those locations in the member profiles. However, I was curious to check the validity of some impressions that have occasionally been expressed by forum members - Is the forum overwhelmingly dominated, on a day-to-day basis, by North Americans?
So far, the answer seems to be that the North Americans are the largest contributors, but it is certainly not overwhelming. That shouldn't be a surprise, given the populations of the major English-speaking countries in the world..
Yes, one might call it laziness on my part. I was aware that I would run into difficulties in defining the continents (e.g. What is North America, What is Asia? Do I include Antarctica?) I am rather particular about that sort of thing and I knew I would get it wrong, whatever I did! So, I took the easy way out and had a category for "Other."That seemed to serve the purpose of my poll. Now @ivar's statistics are great and they fill in some details.
Yes, I thought about that, and wondered if certain groups are more voluble than others! I found a thread that would appeal to a very broad range of members, and that had over 100 posts, and I started to count the individual posts. It got messy as I had to decide how to count multiple posts by the same person (I did count them), whether to count the OP's replies as well (I did), and some people's locations were unknown. Anyway, my very rough count halfway through a single thread of 130-ish posts was not much different from the results we are seeing here - something like 55% North American, 20% Europe/UK, and 25% Other. The "Other" included the unknowns, so it was higher.‘Is the forum NA dominated’ is more about posts rather than posters.
Thank you! That’s good if there is similarity across the data. I only engage in certain topics, mainly travel, financial, insurance and a few others, as I don’t have the knowledge to get involved in many others (albergues, history) or the desire on a relative few topics (snoring, bedbugs) so maybe my ‘feel’ is very narrow, and not accurate. Thanks again!Yes, I thought about that, and wondered if certain groups are more voluble than others! I found a thread that would appeal to a very broad range of members, and that had over 100 posts, and I started to count the individual posts. It got messy as I had to decide how to count multiple posts by the same person (I did count them), whether to count the OP's replies as well (I did), and some people's locations were unknown. Anyway, my very rough count halfway through a single thread of 130-ish posts was not much different from the results we are seeing here - something like 55% North American, 20% Europe/UK, and 25% Other. The "Other" included the unknowns, so it was higher.
It is however considered a controversial term! It is not used by the Irish government because it has political connotations. It has always been far from a neutral geographical term for the islands in this particular archipelago. More nuanced terminology has been proposed that avoid political connotations.AFAIK the term refers to the geographical formation, the archipelago. Not limited to territory under British sovereignty.
I was not aware of that to be honest. Time to change some Wikipedia entries then?It is however considered a controversial term! It is not used by the Irish government because it has political connotations. It has always been far from a neutral geographical term for the islands in this particular archipelago. More nuanced terminology has been proposed that avoid political connotations.
It’s a term that seems very rarely used as, yes, it does carry political connotations. We (UK folks) tend to use individual countries, Britain, or UK. I don’t think many folks would even be able to define British Isles, or how it differs from British!It is however considered a controversial term! It is not used by the Irish government because it has political connotations. It has always been far from a neutral geographical term for the islands in this particular archipelago. More nuanced terminology has been proposed that avoid political connotations.
We (UK folks) tend to use individual countries, Britain, or UK
Yes but.... Not a terribly popular phrasing in the Ireland part of these isles and in fairness when you think about it, it is an antiquated and unsuitable term (IMHO). As someone from Ireland, i appreciate it when folk try to use alternative phrasing. Britain & Ireland doesn't take that much longer to say or write and covers all bases.AFAIK the term refers to the geographical formation, the archipelago. Not limited to territory under British sovereignty.
Are youse looking to discuss that??@Corned Beef That Wikipedia link is a historical entry about the official term in use from 1801 to 1922. The current official term is mentioned in the first paragraph and is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". "Great Britain" is the landmass which includes England, Scotland and Wales and their dependent islands. Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom but not part of Great Britain.
Oh no, here we goBritain & Ireland doesn't take that much longer to say or write and covers all bases.
The Wiki article concerns the political situation from 1801 to the 1920s - the modern title was adopted in 1927 (it would seem) - "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".Isn't it United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. We've given up United Kingdom and Ireland though Wikipedia hasn't. A very confused nation on a relatively small piece of land.
I spent a few interesting months in Belfast in the 1990s. Enough discussion on that topic then to last me a lifetime or two...Are youse looking to discuss that??
That probably explains your impressions. Those very topics are ones that are of particular interest to people from outside the greater-European-continent-west-of-the-Urals-plus-nearby-islands, and are of much less interest to Europeans.I only engage in certain topics, mainly travel, financial, insurance and a few others
Yes, I will (with trepidation) henceforth go with the National Geographic definition:I think Europe would have done!
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We haven't had a poll for awhile! There was some discussion on another thread about where most of the currently active forum members are from. I thought a simple poll would give us a rough idea. Each member can cast only one "vote" and the answers are anonymous.
I am asking for residence rather than origin. And I've used the word "normally" without defining it. Let's not debate the wording of the question or the answers.
I'll leave the poll open for enough time to cover all time zones equally.
In Ireland, for whatever reason, awareness of the Camino is universal. In almost anyone’s company if you mention the Camino the person you are talking to will at least have heard of it, and quite often will say “I’d love to walk on it”. Why this is is not clear, as while we are a catholic country by tradition, practicing catholics are in decline. Maybe it’s the ancient Celtic links that make us want to visit feel at home in parts of northern Spain.Certainly true historically and church attendance is still significantly higher in Ireland than in the UK. And it has been a predominantly Catholic country and the cultural and historical influence of the Catholic church remains strong. So I'm not surprised that Irish pilgrims are a significant feature on the Caminos. I do find the sheer scale of the difference in numbers between the UK and Ireland remarkable though. Especially as so many of those walking the Caminos now have no particular personal religious affiliation or interest,
While this is very true, the poll is addressing the question of where forum members come from. For information about where pilgrims come from, the Pilgrim Office website is the best source.I’m not so sure as to how many realise that forum members represent only a very tiny fraction of people walking the Camino.
It seems to be similar in Germany, independent from faith and more depending on cultural background. When I mention the Camino among Germans they usually know what I am talking about and most think it at least an exciting idea to do it themselves one day - even if just hypothetically ;-)In Ireland, for whatever reason, awareness of the Camino is universal. In almost anyone’s company if you mention the Camino the person you are talking to will at least have heard of it, and quite often will say “I’d love to walk on it”. Why this is is not clear, as while we are a catholic country by tradition, practicing catholics are in decline. Maybe it’s the ancient Celtic links that make us want to visit feel at home in parts of northern Spain.
Agree totally with @Corned Beef (well that's what I teach my French students, anyway)Are youse looking to discuss that??
Yea but I don’t think you could cover the vast majority of the world under Asia. You would need to at least say, south Asia, south east Asia and east Asia to break it down.Yes I thought other was a bit broad for the majority of the world. I know I have met a surprising number of people from Korea for example. Still this pill is a start.
I certainly don’t think that’s the case in England, certainly not amongst my friends anyway. I only heard of it 4 or 5 years ago. Many other treks are far more well known.In Ireland, for whatever reason, awareness of the Camino is universal. In almost anyone’s company if you mention the Camino the person you are talking to will at least have heard of it, and quite often will say “I’d love to walk on it”. Why this is is not clear, as while we are a catholic country by tradition, practicing catholics are in decline. Maybe it’s the ancient Celtic links that make us want to visit feel at home in parts of northern Spain.
Why am I not surprised that’s in capitals?TEXAS!
“The number of unique users who engaged with your site. “What is the defintion of "active user" in the forum software?
Of course it is in capital letters! We have a saying in America that "everything is big in Texas"!...(including their ten gallon hats).Why am I not surprised that’s in capitals?
Never seen food portions like I did in Texas!!!Of course it is in capital letters! We have a saying in America that "everything is big in Texas"!...(including their ten gallon hats).
My "worst" painfully large portion was actually in Oviedo ;-) But then again, I have NEVER ever been to Texas.Never seen food portions like I did in Texas!!!
Well Texas and Florida are the ‘gold standard’ for me!!!My "worst" painfully large portion was actually in Oviedo ;-) But then again, I have NEVER ever been to Texas.
In any case, Donal, Ireland is firmly in Europe."British Isles"
My worst painfully large portion was in Portugal on the Fisherman's Trail. A "specialty", but can't recall its name at the moment. @JabbaPapa will know; he ate one this past year and critiqued it.My "worst" painfully large portion was actually in Oviedo ;-) But then again, I have NEVER ever been to Texas.
Looks like a Francesinha. But that's the skinny version - where are the chips and the fried egg?A "specialty", but can't recall its name at the moment.
That looks like it includes what I would consider Central America. When I was in school, Central America was distinguished from North America but it looks like it is now included.When most of us think of "North America" we picture Canada, USA and perhaps Mexico. Here's a list of countries in North America according to Wikipedia:
I think Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom (as are England, Scotland, Wales). Hence it would be United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and not United Kingdom and ... . But I could be wrong.Isn't it United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. We've given up United Kingdom and Ireland though Wikipedia hasn't. A very confused nation on a relatively small piece of land.
You are absolutely right!I think Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom (as are England, Scotland, Wales). Hence it would be United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and not United Kingdom and ... . But I could be wrong.
I recognize many people think Ireland is pretty great, too.
As is UK!In any case, Donal, Ireland is firmly in Europe.
What is the time frame for calling them "active"? Does this include members who joined 10 years ago but don't visit anymore, as well as those who visit but don't post?“The number of unique users who engaged with your site. “
So if you visit every day, you are only counted once.
Not sure about that. Can’t see graphic but top of head Central America is Nicaragua, Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, Panama, Costa Rica and El Salvador.That looks like it includes what I would consider Central America. When I was in school, Central America was distinguished from North America but it looks like it is now included.
I think most of us realize that. There were over 400,000 Compostelas given out last year. I think most of us realize there aren't anywhere near that number of members. As well, this being an English language Internet forum, I think it us recognized that there are a number of ways that we are not necessarily a representative sample of people on the Camino. But the purpose of this poll as described by the person who published it is not to draw conclusions about those on the Camino but to perhaps get a better understanding of who is actively using the forum. So there us no need to represent people walking the Camino.I’m not so sure as to how many realise that forum members represent only a very tiny fraction of people walking the Camino.
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I expect it is the month that the statistics represent. It is counting users rather than members. If someone (member or not) visits the site in a month, they are considered active users in that month.What is the time frame for calling them "active"? Does this include members who joined 10 years ago but don't visit anymore, as well as those who visit but don't post?
I think I selected the last 30 days..What is the time frame for calling them "active"? Does this include members who joined 10 years ago but don't visit anymore, as well as those who visit but don't post?
The graphic and the Wikipedia article (and other current sources I checked after seeing the Wikipedia article) seem to include Panama and anything north, as well as Caribbean islands, in North America. That includes Central America.Not sure about that. Can’t see graphic but top of head Central America is Nicaragua, Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, Panama, Costa Rica and El Salvador.
Yes, that's the name; very heavy and dense. I can't recall all the internal ingredients under the goop, but possibly an egg was involved.Looks like a Francesinha. But that's the skinny version - where are the chips and the fried egg?
There is only one union flag for the UK (or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland). Whilst we’re not typically as demonstrative as many from the US, some of us take that seriously.
As is UK!
Yea and many people, companies, and media still do (as do my Irish parents) and it annoys me too. It’s wrong. It’s nothing to do with the EU. People say it whether they are going to Bosnia or Croatia, France or Serbia , Sweden or Norway, Switzerland or Italy (i.e. EU or non EU countries) and so on!!! That said saying ‘I am travelling within Europe’ sounds a bit odd to most of us! Habits I guess!Is it? For many years while the UK was part of the EU brits said “Europe” where they used to say “the continent” - “I go to Europe for my holidays this year” rather than “I go to the continent”. They referred to “the continent” for centuries, I suppose, but I noticed it in the 60s, certainly. I don’t remember when I started noticing the change. And being irritated by it. As if the UK was not part of Europe….
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Many moons ago I worked for a UK company. Whenever colleagues made the trip across the Irish Sea for a visit It was always great sport watching the reaction of the natives when they referred to Britain as the “mainland”. It ranged from stunned science to horror. The usual response was “do you mean Europe?”Oh no, here we go
Yes, when I was in school, besides North America, there was Central America, and the Caribbean. Coming from the Caribbean I thought that was quite appropriate.That looks like it includes what I would consider Central America. When I was in school, Central America was distinguished from North America but it looks like it is now included.
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