malingerer
samarkand
- Time of past OR future Camino
- cf (2), de la plata, cp. (2003 -2018)
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Hi and thanks for swift reply! its really the good old veedlepee that I want to finish from Salamanca/Zamora to Astorga. I have never used a "forwarding" style for my rucksack and am thinking of trailer for extra water and carrying a tarp for shade. The weight still has to be thought of no matter what means I use, and my comfort zone is now down to 10kms which not much use on the vdlpThis really is my last shot in the locker! Arthritis in hips and spine have me almost crippled if I walk too far or carry too much in back pack. Cycling is out of the question as I am in the clutches of the balance rehabilitation clinic for severe problems with balance. and NO ITS NOT because of good red wine or strong black coffee!
Hi MalingererThis really is my last shot in the locker! Arthritis in hips and spine have me almost crippled if I walk too far or carry too much in back pack. Cycling is out of the question as I am in the clutches of the balance rehabilitation clinic for severe problems with balance. and NO ITS NOT because of good red wine or strong black coffee!
... my comfort zone is now down to 10kms which not much use on the vdlp... looks like the sedan chair after all
... but at 79 I am more bloody minded than ever!
This really is my last shot in the locker! Arthritis in hips and spine have me almost crippled if I walk too far or carry too much in back pack. Cycling is out of the question as I am in the clutches of the balance rehabilitation clinic for severe problems with balance. and NO ITS NOT because of good red wine or strong black coffee!
I met a lady on the VDLP with a trailer, she really loved it, but it did look a bit of a nightmare to me. The side pieces were her poles, which could come off and the trailer could be carried a short distance if the path was just too bad for it. But it struck me that it's like a bike - you need spare tyres, and a pump and whatnot. I cannot comment on how suitable the path might be on this section for the trailer.
and carrying a tarp for shade.
If I'm gonna take a chair it will be the saddle on a bloody great motorbike!You can also include a lightweight chair if you are pulling a cart, sitting and resting every couple of km might be helpful.
Have you considered a pack umbrella attached to your small day pack?
The Philistines amongst whom I dwell think ive lost the plot!
This really is my last shot in the locker! Arthritis in hips and spine have me almost crippled if I walk too far or carry too much in back pack. Cycling is out of the question as I am in the clutches of the balance rehabilitation clinic for severe problems with balance. and NO ITS NOT because of good red wine or strong black coffee!
Hey I could earn EUR5 a day if I got a cart and brought my own pack and someone else's
@malingerer
... have you actually considered walking with a donkey? BC SY
PS As we are speaking VdlP here, perhaps Don Blas in Fuenterobles can put you in contact with somebody that has one?
This is getting hilarious! Were I a doggie person I could have a wheelie sled and mush the trail! However, its nice to see the wheelsThe donkey could pull the (bigger) cart and that could be €5 x 10 packs a day.
What would be ideal would be two small wheels on the front, then you could use as a go-kart on the downhills.
What would be ideal would be two small wheels on the front, then you could use as a go-kart on the downhills.
I dunno; this Emoji --We need a "laugh out loud" button.
I have trouble with emojis but I like this one! Methinks this thread has gone to hellI dunno; this Emoji ---- works pretty well.
don't know where to find the damn things (hiking trailers) anyway!!
We need a "laugh out loud" button.
I have trouble with emojis but I like this one! Methinks this thread has gone to hell
on a handcart!
don't know where to find the damn things anyway!!
Vaya con Dios.
The Malingerer
Hi Glen, I meant to say I couldn't find the emojis! The info and help re the trailers has been fantastic! Thanks to u and all who contributed. Much food for thought so many blessings etcMalingerer,
There are several links in this thread (including mine) that lead straight to said hiking trailers, and AFAIK they all have price/purchasing information.
As best I can tell, your issue is not one of ABILITY (can't find) but MOTIVATION (choose not to find).
Regards as always.
Oops... Sorry about that.Hi Glen, I meant to say I couldn't find the emojis!
Hi and thanks for the update! You realise I am just about turning green with envy at your prowess! Would it be possible to have a meet next time you are back in Weston? I will even buy the coffee! You have heard "Beware of Greeks bringing gifts" ? Beware of Celts in hot pursuit of trailers!Hi, just an update. The trailers are marvelous and one cannot know how brilliant they are unless they have tried one. Jenny has been walking with the one I made and I with the Radical Design one. One never has to twist round corners and they are never ever too wide. There is no sense of weight or pulling. No weight on knees or feet. Jenny has arthritic knee and problem foot and has has had zero problems, same for me. No sweaty back, no pain, no stress. It just goes where you go and rides easily over any terrain and that military report shows a reduction of 88% in energy expenditure. We both use small grab bags, tiny shoulder bags, for when we walk away from the trailer with our important items. In hot weather, and it has been hot, we can carry as much water as we want with no extra stress or feeling of weight. I added two tubes to each trailer. One to carry a walking pole but we never have to use them as the trailer gives stability going downhill, and the other to carry an umbrella, which we use daily as sun shades. Oh! And we fitted bicycle bells too!!
The truth is this - they are far superior to wearing a pack!!
Buen Camino!!!
P.s. single wheel trailers don't work well as the weight is equal between the wheel and the hipbelts so the hips/waist is heavy. The design has to be two wheels with the weight over the wheels/axle, then there is zero load on the body.
Hi and thanks for the update! You realise I am just about turning green with envy at your prowess! Would it be possible to have a meet next time you are back in Weston? I will even buy the coffee! You have heard "Beware of Greeks bringing gifts" ? Beware of Celts in hot pursuit of trailers!Am lighting extra candles in the church and going to the bookies to "make a rise" as they say. I WILL have a trailer come what may n then its raise the pennies to git back to the veedlepee and start again from Salamanca. Thinking next time of a tarp + s/bag + mat + plenty water means I could still do short hops and be self sufficient without a weight penalty if trailer is as good as you say! Might even add a bottle of mead to the bribery!
Walk soft. Stay safe. love to Jenny and as always
Vaya con Dios.
The Malingerer
Since Radical Design is Dutch, it might be worth checking the Dutch second-hand site 'Marktplaats'. They don't come up often, but since I've been following this thread one or two used Wheelie trailers rolled by. Still pricey, but cheaper than new.
If you need help translating (or maybe even purchasing), you can always pm me.
am a bit apprehensive about dragging a trailer in the wet!
Malingerer - Sean? - message me your email address and I will send you loads of info about building one!!
@malingerer I recommend that you edit your post and remove your email address unless you like lots of spam emails!Hi Dave, am not moving amuscle till I see the trailer of yours in front of my very eyes! been in hospital ref eyes today PC went down and now back on! I am at
I like the look of the Carrix as it is half way to what I am trying to put together. Good point about the mud! I have a trolley that I use for fishing. The handle extends and the sides fold. The wheels are solid tho and IM not too sure about them. Figuring it all out slowly and not in a rush. I have 2 see (no pun intended!) eye consultant again in July, medication review this Friday. and balance clinic some whenever!
Nice nursey sez its AGE. Sheeesh! sez me under me breath and other things. Walk soft and stay safe.
Sean aka The Malingerer!
Hi Dave, am not moving a muscle till I see the trailer of yours in front of my very eyes! been in hospital ref eyes todayPC went down and now back on!
I like the look of the Carrix as it is half way to what I am trying to put together. Good point about the mud! I have a trolley that I use for fishing. The handle extends and the sides fold. The wheels are solid tho and IM not too sure about them. Figuring it all out slowly and not in a rush. I have 2 see (no pun intended!) eye consultant again in July, medication review this Friday. and balance clinic some whenever!
Nice nursey sez its AGE. Sheeesh! sez me under me breath and other things. Walk soft and stay safe.
Sean aka The Malingerer!
email removed! many thanks! n thanks again for info!Stay away from the Carrix - it is a travois so half the weight rests on your waist and hips - you have to have the load directly over a two wheel axle.
also - edit your post and remove your email address!!! Use the PM facility instead for info like that.
I once slipped in rain and fell on a steep stretch somewhere after Roncesvalles, and damaged my shoulder and hip. Stubbornly carrying my pack until Logrono made the injuries much worse than the incident itself, and I was on the point of aborting my Camino. But I decided to buck convention, bought a small golf cart and pulled my pack along until I could ditch the cart (near Castrojeriz) and carry the pack again .
PRO : it was the only way I could continue the Camino, and it allowed me to do the journey and still walk into Santiago more or less on schedule. I felt guilty for a while but I was still "carrying" my stuff under my own steam, and in fact a greater load with the cart.
CON : there are certainly issues with some terrain - it's not an easy option at all - boulders and mud (December walk). And it even created some additional strain on the good arm and body due to different posture. So pulling a trailer by the hip could help avoid the secondary impact.
Simple point I wish to offer : if it's the only option which allows the completion of the Camino, well, then it's the only option. It's not a 2nd best. It's the best in the circumstances.
Now that sounds very interesting ! All the best with it, and I hope it allows you to get the job done.have built a secret weapon
This really is my last shot in the locker! Arthritis in hips and spine have me almost crippled if I walk too far or carry too much in back pack. Cycling is out of the question as I am in the clutches of the balance rehabilitation clinic for severe problems with balance. and NO ITS NOT because of good red wine or strong black coffee!
Hi @MinaKamina ,Hi, that looks interesting! Very Radical Design! Will you be pushing this or pulling it? Have you tried it out yet, how does it perform in different types of terrain (hills, rocks, sand etc)? Please keep us posted!
alas! plans gone to hell on a rail! still battling the medics over hips n spine etc! steroid injections didn't work and now waiting for x rays and further consultations with musculoskeletal outfit whatever the hell they are ! haven't given up yet tho even if I do that last bit by bus, train or taxiI have just discovered this thread - well about an hour ago - and read the lot with great pleasure, although I am not looking for a trailer. Am wondering where Malingerer is now on his way back to he VdlP.
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O dear! I am so sorry! However when you look at what ailments people manage to walk with... Since I discovered this forum almost a year ago this never ceases to impress me. Bought the book "I'll push you"....
Excellent idea to go by bus and finish on foot. I will keep my fingers crossed if that is any help!? By the way where did you stop walking the VdlP?
Will go now and try to find your poem - not very good with these IT things - cyber dummy.
There was an excellent thread earlier this year from a man who walked extensively with a trailer, and built one for a woman, probably the woman mentioned in this thread with a bad shoulder.These fellows who passed me up on the VDLP in 2013 didn't seem to be having much trouble. They were smoking me! I think the key to success on this route might be the ONE wheel at the back. Something to consider. BTW, over the years I've been doing the various routes of the Camino I have seen many many versions of this. Here also is a photo of a fellow we passed at Orisson last season, I believe. View attachment 34342
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I have now modified my Radical Design Wheelie. I found that the big black bag was just not the thing as there were no outside zippable pockets for all those things we need during the day. Also that as there are just two large compartments when you put something fairly small in it just disappears down to the bottom! The water bottle holders are too short so that the bottles lean outwards and rub on the wheels, and when you get to a refugio the hospitelaros show you a good place for it downstairs and then you have to sort what you need and leave the rest below.
So! I removed the bag and replaced it with a rucksack. Not just any rucksack but one that is parallel all the way up and is exactly the right width and height. (a Yellowstone Edinburgh 65l - I need the space for all my first aid supplies). I bought two wide army style webbing belts and clipped one tightly to the bottom frame and one tightly to the top frame so that the rucksack just rests on the frame. Then bought two narrow army style webbing belts and ran these through the shoulder strap D fittings and they then run to the top cross bar. I clip the pack at the bottom using the hip belt (on this pack it is a perfect shape and design for that) and by clipping the two top belts. It is then secure and snug and I have access to all the pouches on the pack. Also, in just a moment I can unclip it from the trailer and carry it wherever I want.
I keep a long cycle cable lock with me (number code tumblers rather than a key lock - never want to worry about losing a key!) and can lock the trailer up when it is empty.
I have also replaced their hipbelt with a lighter, more comfortable one, and used webbing belt clips as part of the fixings so it unclips easily. And as you can see, added two plastic tubes, one for a walking pole and the other for an umbrella/parasol, both accessible when walking. Oh! and a bicycle bell too!!!
Perfect!!
This really works and is a huge improvement. I did write to them explaining how I felt the black bag was good for trekking over wildernesses but not right for pilgrims, told them how I had adapted it and included photos, but they didn't reply - ah well.
Radical Design sell the trailers without the black bag at a little less cost.
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This looks very tempting @David as my legs seem to get worse with each Camino!
Which model is it? Or which of their current models would you suggest?
And what spare parts do you carry?
Hi David,I have now modified my Radical Design Wheelie. I found that the big black bag was just not the thing as there were no outside zippable pockets for all those things we need during the day. Also that as there are just two large compartments when you put something fairly small in it just disappears down to the bottom! The water bottle holders are too short so that the bottles lean outwards and rub on the wheels, and when you get to a refugio the hospitelaros show you a good place for it downstairs and then you have to sort what you need and leave the rest below.
So! I removed the bag and replaced it with a rucksack. Not just any rucksack but one that is parallel all the way up and is exactly the right width and height. (a Yellowstone Edinburgh 65l - I need the space for all my first aid supplies). I bought two wide army style webbing belts and clipped one tightly to the bottom frame and one tightly to the top frame so that the rucksack just rests on the frame. Then bought two narrow army style webbing belts and ran these through the shoulder strap D fittings and they then run to the top cross bar. I clip the pack at the bottom using the hip belt (on this pack it is a perfect shape and design for that) and by clipping the two top belts. It is then secure and snug and I have access to all the pouches on the pack. Also, in just a moment I can unclip it from the trailer and carry it wherever I want.
I keep a long cycle cable lock with me (number code tumblers rather than a key lock - never want to worry about losing a key!) and can lock the trailer up when it is empty.
I have also replaced their hipbelt with a lighter, more comfortable one, and used webbing belt clips as part of the fixings so it unclips easily. And as you can see, added two plastic tubes, one for a walking pole and the other for an umbrella/parasol, both accessible when walking. Oh! and a bicycle bell too!!!
Perfect!!
This really works and is a huge improvement. I did write to them explaining how I felt the black bag was good for trekking over wildernesses but not right for pilgrims, told them how I had adapted it and included photos, but they didn't reply - ah well.
Radical Design sell the trailers without the black bag at a little less cost.
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Thanks. - Cool - you are in the UK so easy peasy!Big thank you for your detailed advice David. Yes love to know what kind of clips you used for your tow bars and where you bought them.
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