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in my experience - for such endeavours, one does not 'find' time ... one 'takes' it.I often wonder, “How do people find time to do the Camino?”
Given part of my job is being the tech support guy to my customers, it is even more dramatic. Can you imagine not being able to log into your account and receiving and auto reply that someone will get back to you in a month? This does not also consider loss sales.
I am putting a strategy in place that allows me to go, the planning for it is as large as planning the trip itself. I won’t bore you with those details though. In addition, I have the additional cost of flying from the USA with 4 days budgeted for traveling.
Unless you are retired, unemployed, financially established or have a job like a school teacher or place that can have someone fill in for you, what are your other options and how do you manage it?
I often wonder, “How do people find time to do the Camino?”
Given part of my job is being the tech support guy to my customers, it is even more dramatic. Can you imagine not being able to log into your account and receiving and auto reply that someone will get back to you in a month? This does not also consider loss sales. I think with remote connection, I will not have to so much work, but maybe direct where they can get help from.
I am putting a strategy in place that allows me to go, the planning for it is as large as planning the trip itself. I won’t bore you with those details though. In addition, I have the additional cost of flying from the USA with 4 days budgeted for traveling.
Unless you are retired, unemployed, financially established or have a job like a school teacher or place that can have someone fill in for you, what are your other options and how do you manage it?
First off, only about 10% of people do the whole trail. Second, many people do it over multiple seasons. The first day I caught up to a young man from Norway who was doing the first half in 12 days plus a couple travel days. Many folks from Ireland who had limited time were doing it over multiple years. Of course a large number only do the last 100 miles or so. Seems like most that do the whole thing do find a way to get the five weeks off if they are working age but many are people who are retired, business owners, students or between jobs. I did it in three weeks but I do not recommend that to most folks ( plus the travel time from the states)I often wonder, “How do people find time to do the Camino?”
Given part of my job is being the tech support guy to my customers, it is even more dramatic. Can you imagine not being able to log into your account and receiving and auto reply that someone will get back to you in a month? This does not also consider loss sales. I think with remote connection, I will not have to so much work, but maybe direct where they can get help from.
I am putting a strategy in place that allows me to go, the planning for it is as large as planning the trip itself. I won’t bore you with those details though. In addition, I have the additional cost of flying from the USA with 4 days budgeted for traveling.
Unless you are retired, unemployed, financially established or have a job like a school teacher or place that can have someone fill in for you, what are your other options and how do you manage it?
Retired after 30 years military service and now work part time, taking 2 months off (without pay) and looking forward to my first Camino stating on 17 April. plenty of time ;-) Buen Caminoone does not 'find' time ... one 'takes' it.
In the States many people have told me they did the Camino but after questioning them they had started in Pamplona, Bourgos, Leon or Sarria.
As Dutch said , 10% / the whole trail? ?? How did you came at 10 % ?? and what is the whole trail in your opinion. ?? For some is the whole trail the last 100km, for others is that from SJPDP and for some is that from home . Take your pick, Peter.First off, only about 10% of people do the whole trail. Second, many people do it over multiple seasons. The first day I caught up to a young man from Norway who was doing the first half in 12 days plus a couple travel days. Many folks from Ireland who had limited time were doing it over multiple years. Of course a large number only do the last 100 miles or so. Seems like most that do the whole thing do find a way to get the five weeks off if they are working age but many are people who are retired, business owners, students or between jobs. I did it in three weeks but I do not recommend that to most folks ( plus the travel time from the states)
outlive our responsibilities.Some of us just get old and...
I often wonder, “How do people find time to do the Camino?”
Given part of my job is being the tech support guy to my customers, it is even more dramatic. Can you imagine not being able to log into your account and receiving and auto reply that someone will get back to you in a month? This does not also consider loss sales. I think with remote connection, I will not have to so much work, but maybe direct where they can get help from.
You are so right , there are still people thinking that the only way starts from Sjpdp .Peter .
Wayfarer, I noticed last year you say almost Orrisson what happened, as I walked it last year 2nd Sept.Blessed retirement.
Check these.Wayfarer, I noticed last year you say almost Orrisson what happened, as I walked it last year 2nd Sept.
I have never taken off two weeks. I have gone to Canada for a week at a time without Internet. But never two weeks. There is a big difference when you are not part of an organization that is either big enough to let you go or replace you while gone.How do you take your holidays WldWil? What happens if yu take a 2 week off, or is that difficult too?
In my (european?) view, in every healthy organisation it is possible to replace anyone for any time. People can get ill, a different job, needs holiday, get children, and...need to do camino's sometimes. As a teammanager I do take care for that in my own team, and I feel it as my duty to be able to be replaced any moment. For me this is part of being a healthy organisation. For me the same counts for self employed people. Is there really no one who can give the tech support when you are gone?
I have never taken off two weeks. I have gone to Canada for a week at a time without Internet. But never two weeks. There is a big difference when you are not part of an organization that is either big enough to let you go or replace you while gone.
I am the organization and team manager and owner, etc..... The lights are basically out when I am gone. I am in the process of hiring someone right now to reduce this. I will skip the list of what that involves with insurances, additional government taxes, costs and regulations. Even if I found someone that could relatively do what I do, I would have to share passwords and access to most all my clients accounts, emails and some financial institutions.
Part of my business success is what I do and many others cannot or at least not as well. I also am flying from the USA which adds another 4 days of travel. My plans to go from Sept 2-20 is a huge leap. My plans (which could change again) are to start in SJPP and get to wherever I go (My target is Sahagun, but I want to be part of the Camino, not just travel across it) and return the following year to return and end in Santiago. (It is also a good excuse to go twice)
I gave serious thought of doing a single shorter trip from perhaps Leon and even starting in Pamplona and skipping some sections. This may be a once in a lifetime trip for me and I would prefer to think I did my best to make it my best (I would hope to repeat someday, if possible)
In conclusion, my goal is to achieve the greatest level of disconnect I can reasonably obtain without to high of price and be more fully immersed in the Camino. Part of the plan to achieve this goal is:
Work reduction and/or management
Studying of culture and History
Light conversational Spanish (I knew only vino tinto last October)
Physical preparation
Gear preparation
Spiritual preparation
Let go and let God
At this point it is the Finding, Making or Taking of time that is still a concern. I am grateful that I at least have an opportunity to do this, where I am sure many others do not. That is something we should all be thankful for.
PS. I really have enjoyed the responses to this thread and hope other continue to share as well..
What a FABULOUS word for a retiree which resonates with celebrating the next chapter of one's life. A chapter I'm going to be opening in just a little over five months time. I can't wait for it - nor beginning my first (of what I hope will be many) Camino...... "jubilados" are retirees.....
I often wonder, “How do people find time to do the Camino?”
Given part of my job is being the tech support guy to my customers, it is even more dramatic. Can you imagine not being able to log into your account and receiving and auto reply that someone will get back to you in a month? This does not also consider loss sales. I think with remote connection, I will not have to so much work, but maybe direct where they can get help from.
I am putting a strategy in place that allows me to go, the planning for it is as large as planning the trip itself. I won’t bore you with those details though. In addition, I have the additional cost of flying from the USA with 4 days budgeted for traveling.
Unless you are retired, unemployed, financially established or have a job like a school teacher or place that can have someone fill in for you, what are your other options and how do you manage it?
" aposentado " is the Portugese word for "jubilado " when a Brasilean pronounces it, it sounds like bossa nova and samba musicYes - Jubilados is a much nicer word for retirees. I have relatives and friends who say 'You stop working you sit down and die' - I find that awful! To retire from work means you can fill your life with all the activities you have tried fitting around work before now. If you are lucky enough to be fairly healthy, allowing for limits set by available funds - you should embrace it surely? Having spent many years being disabled and dreaming from my armchair - I can only think of work as a means to an end - not an end itself. Obviously it is different for those with a vocation.
I think I will use the term Jubilados instead of retirees - it makes me look forward with glee!
Actually, I thought about that as well. I might have someone at home missing me a bit to much though as I am going solo..WldWil, here's an idea out of the box.......how about taking two or three MONTHS and going slowly but working at the same time. You'll find wifi just about everywhere, so you could do a couple of hour's work every day and no-one need even know you were gone!
The person who invented work could not possibly have had much to fill his days with..."I can't hardly imagine anymore I worked in a strict regime and discipline.
I never regretted I stopped a very interesting and well paid job.
Age is of little importance on the Camino. Connectivity is... I am 61: Got a message from a 23-years old Dutch if we could meet again in Santiago in May... We will.Seems like I will be one of the younger ones on the camino in the next few weeks...!
Probably notThe person who invented work could not possibly have had much to fill his days with...
Take it from me - leaving someone at home for three months is too long!!! I did it last year (and hubby actually came over for a couple of weeks to walk with the kids and me, but it was a long six weeks after he went home)Actually, I thought about that as well. I might have someone at home missing me a bit to much though as I am going solo..
I have the blessing to go though and tickets bought. This means not if, but how. The how continues to get better though as well.
In medieval times, the trail started where you lived, and it ended where you lived. In other words, people walked out of their front doors, to Santiago (and Fisterra), and then back home again. For most, the only means of transport used were boats and ships (to cross lakes in Switzerland, rivers in Spain and the sea from England). I do appreciate that this is a little difficult for Australians and Americans. Maybe that's why the Middle Ages ended in 1492, when America was discovered. Okay, I know, it was the Caribbean...Only 10% do the whole trail? Where did you get that number? And what is the "whole" trail? Where does that start?
I often wonder, “How do people find time to do the Camino?”
WldWil, this is my first post/reply since joining the forum. I too am self employed and have client list that occasionally has emergencies (at least to the client). We both seem to be in costumer service to some degree. The most I have taken off is 2 weeks. Even at that, I took my laptop and knew where the wifi connections were. I also left a phone message (indicating to e-mail) and auto reply on e-mail that I was unavailable and would reply asap. For emergencies that required a warm body (which there is only one or two of), I left a colleague's number. Obviously I trusted him. I did this from Hawaii, France, St. John, Yellowstone, Smokey Mountains, ... So for my first Camino Primitivo, I will be out of pocket for 20 days. This time I am leaving my laptop with my colleague and will compensate for the accepting all calls and e-mails. If the client can wait, I will get to them when I get back. Otherwise, he will take care of it. I am sure it will take me a few days to finally let go and enjoy the Camino. It is a control issue, it is our livelihood. But I also trust the relationship that I have built with my clients. Find your comfort level, even it means finding the wifi, to stop and check in. Allow yourself the peace to walk and enjoy. This is my mantra for now. I am also thinking that once I put my first step down, it is out of my control and darn well better make the most out of a great opportunity that I have chosen to take on over all other choices.
Good luck
Hmmm, bank robbery, walk from Sarria, get a compostella and all your sins are forgiven, isn't it?Retirement. Inheritance. Bank robbery without being caught.
One thing I would never ever do is take work (or other commitments) with me on the Camino. To me, pilgrimage is about getting away from things, not taking them along.
I agree. Leaving someone at home is tough. The year I was planning my wedding I flew 3000 miles away to Seattle USA for 3+ months to build a house. Bad idea. My wings got clipped for awhile when I got back. Lol. But it was hard for both of usTake it from me - leaving someone at home for three months is too long!!! I did it last year (and hubby actually came over for a couple of weeks to walk with the kids and me, but it was a long six weeks after he went home)
That said, I'm not against the idea of doing it again!
For me, it was something I just had to do that year in that specific month. It was a sudden and strong urge or calling to do it even though I had heard of it years previously and hadn't given it much thought until then. I figured if it was meant to be it would happen. I asked at work and luckily I got the leave I asked for. It did take a bit of effort though. We arranged it so that I could bundle a few extra weeks leave into the year I chose to go. This was not normal practice at work so the Camino definitely provided on this occasion. I kinda feel that if people really want to do it and the time is right they will find a way. Best of luck!I often wonder, “How do people find time to do the Camino?”
Given part of my job is being the tech support guy to my customers, it is even more dramatic. Can you imagine not being able to log into your account and receiving and auto reply that someone will get back to you in a month? This does not also consider loss sales. I think with remote connection, I will not have to so much work, but maybe direct where they can get help from.
I am putting a strategy in place that allows me to go, the planning for it is as large as planning the trip itself. I won’t bore you with those details though. In addition, I have the additional cost of flying from the USA with 4 days budgeted for traveling.
Unless you are retired, unemployed, financially established or have a job like a school teacher or place that can have someone fill in for you, what are your other options and how do you manage it?
repeated visits of between 12-15 days ,for me, is my way of walking the Camino while holding down a job.In the not too distant future when retirement is a reality I would hope to be able to commit to a full 5-6 week continuous Camino but for now I'm just fortunate and blessed to be able to fulfil my Camino dreams ,bit by bit and journey by journey and I can honestly say that each step to date has been memorable and enriching.
Oh, that was easy, I just developed an autoimmunic disease (probably caused by stress) and got myself hospitalized for some time. Thanks to that I couldn't go on annual leave so I saved a bunch of days
I am really sorry to hear that you got ill and had to be hospitalized. That must have been hard, but what a great thing to be able to go on Camino. Kind of a nice salve over a bad burn? I hope that your health is good now, and that you are happy and well. Any trips planned?
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