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If you walked the Portugues and used the CSJ guides, please help!

peregrina2000

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Staff member
Hi, forum members,

I did the updates on the CSJ guides (Lisbon to Porto and Porto to Santiago) this past spring, and I will undoubtedly be doing the updates again next spring. By then, even if you used the guide and had some updates, criticisms, corrections, etc, you may well have forgotten them. So here is my requet -- if you walked any part of the Camino Portugues and used the CSJ online guides, please take a look and send me all of your comments. I will store them till next spring, and you can be sure I will be very very happy to have them.

Muito obrigada!

Bom caminho, Laurie
 

Diogo92

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
C. Português 2013, 2014
C. de Fátima 2014
C. do Salnés 2015
Hi, forum members,

I did the updates on the CSJ guides (Lisbon to Porto and Porto to Santiago) this past spring, and I will undoubtedly be doing the updates again next spring. By then, even if you used the guide and had some updates, criticisms, corrections, etc, you may well have forgotten them. So here is my requet -- if you walked any part of the Camino Portugues and used the CSJ online guides, please take a look and send me all of your comments. I will store them till next spring, and you can be sure I will be very very happy to have them.

Muito obrigada!

Bom caminho, Laurie
Will do the stages from Alhandra to Santarém next October, and I will print it out and do my own corrections, and then I will send them to you Laurie.

Big Hug :)
 

Diogo92

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
C. Português 2013, 2014
C. de Fátima 2014
C. do Salnés 2015
Hey, diogo, I'm going to be back in Lisbon next spring, maybe we could organize a weekend walk for two of those early stages. Or maybe we could just go sit and eat pasteis de nata in a cafe. :)
Both of the propositions sound good to me :)
 

Emia

Member
I ve heared there are 2 new private albergues.

Aloxa Hostel in Pontevedra (52 places) and La calabaza de peregrinos in Faramello/Teo (40 places)
 
Hey Laurie and Diogo, will join you on the next Pastel de Nata adventure. May I suggest an alternative meeting in Santarém, where you also can taste the local pastel de nata know as "Revolta do Pastel de Nata" and other local specialties like the Pampilho and sweetest cake you can get; Celestes.
 

Diogo92

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
C. Português 2013, 2014
C. de Fátima 2014
C. do Salnés 2015
Hey Laurie and Diogo, will join you on the next Pastel de Nata adventure. May I suggest an alternative meeting in Santarém, where you also can taste the local pastel de nata know as "Revolta do Pastel de Nata" and other local specialties like the Pampilho and sweetest cake you can get; Celestes.
Pampilhos :3
 

peregrina2000

Moderator
Staff member
Pampilhos :3
Hey Laurie and Diogo, will join you on the next Pastel de Nata adventure. May I suggest an alternative meeting in Santarém, where you also can taste the local pastel de nata know as "Revolta do Pastel de Nata" and other local specialties like the Pampilho and sweetest cake you can get; Celestes.

These posts are giving me the idea that the updated CSJ guide needs a pastry appendix. My knowledge ends with pastel de nata and one from Sintra, travesseiros (??? -- probably that's not the spelling). Looks like there are many local specialties, and what better time to try the than when you're burning several thousand calories a day!
 

amsimoes

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Hey, diogo, I'm going to be back in Lisbon next spring, maybe we could organize a weekend walk for two of those early stages. Or maybe we could just go sit and eat pasteis de nata in a cafe. :)
Hi Laurie e Diogo

I will also. Can I go with you?

AMSimoes
 

Albertinho

ninguém disse que era fácil !
Camino(s) past & future
2013 Lisboa - Sant.
2014 Ferrol -Sant.
2015 Porto -Sant.
2018 Porto -Valença
2019 Valença -Sant.

amsimoes

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
I am out.
Friends have my email.
Hi, forum members,

I did the updates on the CSJ guides (Lisbon to Porto and Porto to Santiago) this past spring, and I will undoubtedly be doing the updates again next spring. By then, even if you used the guide and had some updates, criticisms, corrections, etc, you may well have forgotten them. So here is my requet -- if you walked any part of the Camino Portugues and used the CSJ online guides, please take a look and send me all of your comments. I will store them till next spring, and you can be sure I will be very very happy to have them.

Muito obrigada!

Bom caminho, Laurie
Hi Laurie
In June, in preparation for my "Primitive Caminho", I did route "Parque das Nações" to Alhandra and saw that in Povoa de Santa Iria the caminho has changed, keeping the arrows with the directions on the "O Caminho de Fátima "with the old marking. May be the cause of some confusion.

AMSimoes
 

peregrina2000

Moderator
Staff member
Hi Laurie
In June, in preparation for my "Primitive Caminho", I did route "Parque das Nações" to Alhandra and saw that in Povoa de Santa Iria the caminho has changed, keeping the arrows with the directions on the "O Caminho de Fátima "with the old marking. May be the cause of some confusion.

AMSimoes
Thanks for this. Can you explain a bit more? Are you saying that the Fatima arrows and Santiago arrows are now all going the same way? Isn't that the way it's always been, with the split coming around Santarem? Thanks, AM. Laurie
 

amsimoes

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I am out.
Friends have my email.
Hi Laurie

After crossing the railway line, the road begins to descend and at the end of the descent, the caminho is now set to move on rather than to turn left, while the Caminho of Fatima continues with the old marking indicating continues to turn on the left.
I think it's to not cross private property.

AMSimoes
 

peregrina2000

Moderator
Staff member
Hi Laurie

After crossing the railway line, the road begins to descend and at the end of the descent, the caminho is now set to move on rather than to turn left, while the Caminho of Fatima continues with the old marking indicating continues to turn on the left.
I think it's to not cross private property.

AMSimoes
Thanks, AM, so do you recommend following the yellow arrows and ignoring the Fatima markers? Or are there two sets of arrows, one on the Fatima markers and a new set to take you around private property? Sorry to be so dense! Thanks, Laurie
 

Emia

Member
Nice alternative in Padron: hostel Flavia with dorms. Also two new (?) pilgrimfriendly places in Vila do Conde: Erva Doce Guesthouse and Bellamar hostel, both with dorms.
 

Albertinho

ninguém disse que era fácil !
Camino(s) past & future
2013 Lisboa - Sant.
2014 Ferrol -Sant.
2015 Porto -Sant.
2018 Porto -Valença
2019 Valença -Sant.
Nice alternative in Padron: hostel Flavia with dorms. Also two new (?) pilgrimfriendly places in Vila do Conde: Erva Doce Guesthouse and Bellamar hostel, both with dorms.
Good news !
 

amsimoes

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
I am out.
Friends have my email.
Hi Laurie
In June, in preparation for my "Primitive Caminho", I did route "Parque das Nações" to Alhandra and saw that in Povoa de Santa Iria the caminho has changed, keeping the arrows with the directions on the "O Caminho de Fátima "with the old marking. May be the cause of some confusion.

AMSimoes
Hi Laurie
The yellow line shows the old marking, and the "Caminho de Fatima", this has not been changed (blue arrows). .
The red line is the new marking of the "Caminho Portugues."
As I already knew, I followed the blue arrows "Caminho de Fatima". But I found a sign indicating "Private Property" (Propriedade Privada).

AMSimoes

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ranthr

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
C Frances 2005, 2007
Le Puy en Velay -SdC 2009
Via de la Plata 2011
gr 653 from Oloron to Puente la Reina 2012
Gr65 from le Puy to Figeac 2013
Irun to Santander 2013
Porto to SdC 2014
Astorga to SdC 2015
1-2km after Casa Fernanda, where everybody stay, there is some sort of hostal,Estabulo de Valinhas. there are no signs/ advertisement or so outside, just the name. It is not mentioned either in Brierleys guide, the CSJ or German Outdoor guide. I stayed there last night, booked it on booking.com because some German pilgrims said it was direct am camino and I did not know you could book ahead at Casa Fernanda, that most of the people I met that day had done.

The creepy thing is that I was completely alone. The boy who gave me the key did not speek much English, he brought me dinner and water and left. If I had known I'd be the only one I would have tried to get a bed at Fernandas.
The ten rooms were like small cells with a double bed, shower and toilett, good bed. A little bit too airy for me since there was only a moquitowindow in the door. There was kitchen and living area everyone could use. I just think it is a bit strange that they don't do anything to attract pilgrims.
By the way, I popped in at
the albergue at Portela to have a look and that was really a beauty!
 

Albertinho

ninguém disse que era fácil !
Camino(s) past & future
2013 Lisboa - Sant.
2014 Ferrol -Sant.
2015 Porto -Sant.
2018 Porto -Valença
2019 Valença -Sant.
1-2km after Casa Fernanda, where everybody stay, there is some sort of hostal,Estabulo de Valinhas. there are no signs/ advertisement or so outside, just the name. It is not mentioned either in Brierleys guide, the CSJ or German Outdoor guide. I stayed there last night, booked it on booking.com because some German pilgrims said it was direct am camino and I did not know you could book ahead at Casa Fernanda, that most of the people I met that day had done.

The creepy thing is that I was completely alone. The boy who gave me the key did not speek much English, he brought me dinner and water and left. If I had known I'd be the only one I would have tried to get a bed at Fernandas.
The ten rooms were like small cells with a double bed, shower and toilett, good bed. A little bit too airy for me since there was only a moquitowindow in the door. There was kitchen and living area everyone could use. I just think it is a bit strange that they don't do anything to attract pilgrims.
By the way, I popped in at
the albergue at Portela to have a look and that was really a beauty!
What a pity you missed Fernanda's . In Brierley's guide is the phonenumber of Fernanda. So for you too late but as an advice to everybody. If you leave Pedra Furada or Barcelos in the morning, give her a ring to reserve your stay that day

Tel + 351 914 589 521
 

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