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Not just you, I enjoyed it all, as Henry's dad said, its real life, not to be missed.See lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this. Personaly I enjoy them as well as being out in the wild. Its interesting to see the architecture, wall murals and the way different people live. Starting the Portuguese from Lisbon mid March and relishing the first couple of days which some seem to try and avoid. Maybe it's just me.
I would say there are many (maybe even most) people on the forum who say they are an important part of the Camino, that they reveal an important view of Spain and life, and that shouldn't be avoided.See lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this.
There are several places where you have a clear choice between highway/industrial, and a more natural path. Haven't you ever chosen the natural one over the highway/industrial path? Isn't that avoiding, even if not "skipping"? (Just keeping things real here!)I have never skipped an industrial/ugly portion of an urban city while walking the Camino
Of course I prefer, and have taken, the natural paths when they have been an option, but I can recall plenty of times when there has been no avoiding them.There are several places where you have a clear choice between highway/industrial, and a more natural path. Haven't you ever chosen the natural one over the highway/industrial path? Isn't that avoiding, even if not "skipping"? (Just keeping things real here!)
I completely agree. And often I'll be walking with someone and having good conversation and barely notice the scenery through those areas.See lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this. Personaly I enjoy them as well as being out in the wild. Its interesting to see the architecture, wall murals and the way different people live. Starting the Portuguese from Lisbon mid March and relishing the first couple of days which some seem to try and avoid. Maybe it's just me.
There are several places where you have a clear choice between highway/industrial, and a more natural path. Haven't you ever chosen the natural one over the highway/industrial path? Isn't that avoiding, even if not "skipping"? (Just keeping things real here!)
I'm with @Camino Chrissy I'll take alternate paths that are more scenic, but not a bus.Of course I prefer, and have taken, the natural paths when they have been an option, but I can recall plenty of times when there has been no avoiding them.
My main point is that I have never intentionally taken a bus to avoid an industrial section.
Me too.I'm with @Camino Chrissy I'll take alternate paths that are more scenic, but not a bus.
So true. But a bit of pride is a good thing. I have taken some bits of transport assistance for good reasons - but those good reasons haven't (yet) included the fact that an area might be industrial, boring, ugly or otherwise just not appealing.I came to realise it was just my pride.
I agree. It’s all part of it.I agree. I would/have taken transport assistance for good reasons - but those good reasons don't include being industrial, boring or ugly.
Obviously not.Maybe it's just me
Exactly. At home we probably drive or take public transit in and out of cities, and so don't get the embodied feel of what it is to live through them, at a human speed.even for those of who grew up in cities, we really have not had the experience of walking through them.
Me too. Into Burgos along the river and the alternate way to Hospital de Orbigo are the places that come to mind. But when I think of it, I'm more likely to want an alternative to a shoulderless rural road than to the exit from a city.Haven't you ever chosen the natural one over the highway/industrial path?
I’m all for ‘to each his own’ but whenever I hear or read that ‘advice’ I feel a little sad.we also hear of pilgrims taking a bus to 'miss' the Meseta as they have been told it is 'boring
I agree about the good food, coffee, and cheap wine in these areas. Well worth the hike through! A touch of quotidian secular life when on the Camino...Love it.
Out of Ferrol. On the Ingles for instance. Supermarkets, factories and industrial parts. Perfect spot also to find a decent café that serves honest food for the local workers.
I grew up in a dirty industrial city, I don't want to walk through them, I like natureSee lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this. Personaly I enjoy them as well as being out in the wild. Its interesting to see the architecture, wall murals and the way different people live. Starting the Portuguese from Lisbon mid March and relishing the first couple of days which some seem to try and avoid. Maybe it's just me.
You'll love the walk out of Lisbon. Range of streetscapes, architecture, industrial/residential, tiles. Did I mention tiles??See lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this. Personaly I enjoy them as well as being out in the wild. Its interesting to see the architecture, wall murals and the way different people live. Starting the Portuguese from Lisbon mid March and relishing the first couple of days which some seem to try and avoid. Maybe it's just me.
So true! Every industrial approach I have made delivered a cafe that served the truckers… and while I still had the option to sit at a little table outside, I also *invariably* received — included with the coffee — a particularly delightful pastry or cake. Outside Leon the pastry was a custardy small apple cake with a brûlée top and apple slices on it. Outside Albergaria I received a half sausage in a flakey pastry (what we here call a pig in a blanket)…. I have received a small wedge of tarte-tatin….Love it.
Out of Ferrol. On the Ingles for instance. Supermarkets, factories and industrial parts. Perfect spot also to find a decent café that serves honest food for the local workers.
The tire factory on the walk into Burgos is fascinating. Enormous (maybe a 1/2 mile long) with gorgeous landscaping. You can find beauty in anything if you try hard enough . . . .Agreed! Here in the states, even for those of who grew up in cities, we really have not had the experience of walking through them.
Back in 2014, my late Camigo was fussing about the walk through Burgos and I noted this fact. As in, "maybe you will get a clue as to how cities evolve their spaces over time". And, unlike our hometowns, this was a safe environment for study.
But, yeah, I am with @C clearly . Given an option in future times, I will opt for greener spaces.
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Lol and don't forget the McDonald's as you go around the bay...couldn't believe my eyes.Love it.
Out of Ferrol. On the Ingles for instance. Supermarkets, factories and industrial parts. Perfect spot also to find a decent café that serves honest food for the local workers.
So true! I *loathe* the meseta in many ways (it was the most physically painful stretch on my first go and so seemed interminable).... But met my spouse half way through on my second, and saw it anew... I'm not in love with it now, but we are actually walking on our treadmills under a partial lockdown, and following BK Lee step for step... about to reach Burgos, and we find ourselves laughing *a lot* about things that are peculiar to the meseta -- including the tedium... and the long stretches we have both wiped from memory.I’m all for ‘to each his own’ but whenever I hear or read that ‘advice’ I feel a little sad.
Lol and don't forget the McDonald's as you go around the bay...couldn't believe my eyes.
I agree with you fully I enjoy both the urban and country.See lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this. Personaly I enjoy them as well as being out in the wild. Its interesting to see the architecture, wall murals and the way different people live. Starting the Portuguese from Lisbon mid March and relishing the first couple of days which some seem to try and avoid. Maybe it's just me.
Prefer wandering in nature but try to enjoy every on the Camino. We missed the river path into Burgos & the industrial route was harsh on the feet.
I am very curious about what I will experience as scenery shifts on the Norte, eventually heading south... not completely sure which turn-off I will take yet because it depends on weather... But I know I will be in for surprises kind of like what you describe here...Or when you come out of the " enchanted forest " on the last etapa from Sigueiro ( also on the Ingles ) to Santiago and bam out of the forest track you walk into the enormous gasstation/barstop. Poligono do Tambre.
Ir makes me even more aware how priviliged I am to be able to take time off from work and walk in that gorgeous country.
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I’ve been pondering this post all day, in a background kind of way, and what suddenly struck me was this…See lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this. Personaly I enjoy them as well as being out in the wild. Its interesting to see the architecture, wall murals and the way different people live. Starting the Portuguese from Lisbon mid March and relishing the first couple of days which some seem to try and avoid. Maybe it's just me.
It's all part of the walk and the experience to see all types of life. But each of us might have our favorite parts, and that's okay.See lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this. Personaly I enjoy them as well as being out in the wild. Its interesting to see the architecture, wall murals and the way different people live. Starting the Portuguese from Lisbon mid March and relishing the first couple of days which some seem to try and avoid. Maybe it's just me.
I don't care for industrial areas, but I like strolling through residential or "historic" areas.I love them. The scruffier the industrial estate, the happier I am. It’s real life happening all around you.
Maybe you remember this one near Beasain? It was the wonderful typeface that caught my eye (1930s?). And then I just stood there, imagining it bustling with endeavour and activity in its heyday.I appreciate these stretches, too. The 2nd and 3rd days of the Vasco had a fair amount of 'real life,' much of it a little worse for wear. But it was fascinating, some even eye-catching
i agree! coming from australia, it is so different that i love drinking it in!See lots of posts about walking through urban environments and how some try to avoid this. Personaly I enjoy them as well as being out in the wild. Its interesting to see the architecture, wall murals and the way different people live. Starting the Portuguese from Lisbon mid March and relishing the first couple of days which some seem to try and avoid. Maybe it's just me.
Last Summer, I chose the industrial way on the Portuguese path, thinking… ‘why not? It’s quicker’. It was stupid and I regretted itThere are several places where you have a clear choice between highway/industrial, and a more natural path. Haven't you ever chosen the natural one over the highway/industrial path? Isn't that avoiding, even if not "skipping"? (Just keeping things real here!)
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