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I think the variable here is that your friend has read the almost-never-applied-unless-they-need-a-reason regulation, whereas pretty much everyone else has not.I have a friend traveling to Madrid as the entry point for them doing the Camino next month and they read the entry requirements which require proof of finances for € 90 daily and if using a credit card for that proof a bank statement or the credit card statement. My friend is staying 3 weeks, has a RT confirmed ticket, hotels booked at the beginning and end of the Camino and had several bank and atm cards and $500 in euros.
I’ve been to Spain 6 times over the last 10 years and never had this come up entering Madrid. Anyone else ever have issues upon entry and if so what was required/shown to satisfy the officials?
Yes, I know my niece studied in Barcelona for a semester and she had to show that she had adequate resources for before they gave her the student visa.The question is most likely asked of visitors who have had to get a visa before landing. They are the ones that authorities worry may not leave the EU when they are supposed to.
Correct. There are some quite ‘known to nobody’ rules if you have a few days to wade through. For example if you are a non EU citizen staying with friends in France, you have to be registered with the local town hall. That’s what a newspaper reported anyway.I think the variable here is that your friend has read the almost-never-applied-unless-they-need-a-reason regulation, whereas pretty much everyone else has not.
I’ve been to Spain from the UK probably 70 times in the past 40 years; and some time ago I most certainly looked as though I had no visible means of support; but nobody ever asked the question.
Of course, for most of those 40 years, the rule did not apply to you. It is only in very recent years that it does and that’s why it is currently making headlines in some newspapers in the world. And generates traffic on social media.I’ve been to Spain from the UK probably 70 times in the past 40 years
Yes absolutely right! It’s media gold for both sides ‘Brit’s in holiday misery’ is a big seller. Especially a big story in Jan/Feb which are the big summer holiday booking months and the lead up to end of July when people are starting holidays.Of course, for most of those 40 years, the rule did not apply to you. It is only in very recent years that it does and that’s why it is currently making headlines in some newspapers in the world. And generates traffic on social media.
It’s a requirement that is almost never checked in a country that has millions of tourist every year. But the border officials might if they think an incoming passenger might be the kind of person they don’t want to let in. How shifty does your friend look, generally?I have a friend traveling to Madrid as the entry point for them doing the Camino next month and they read the entry requirements which require proof of finances for € 90 daily and if using a credit card for that proof a bank statement or the credit card statement. My friend is staying 3 weeks, has a RT confirmed ticket, hotels booked at the beginning and end of the Camino and had several bank and atm cards and $500 in euros.
I’ve been to Spain 6 times over the last 10 years and never had this come up entering Madrid. Anyone else ever have issues upon entry and if so what was required/shown to satisfy the officials?
Since he is probably reading these posts I’d say he is shifty, ugly, little troll. Truth be told he’s well spoken, clean cut, intelligent and kitted out in the best REI has to offer. He’ll not appear a threat in the least.
When I went to school to study in 1973 in England and some fellow classmates went to Italy, France and Spain we all had to show proof of having enough money before we got our student visas. When My daughter went overseas to study in 2013 I had to give her documentation for her student visa. I guess this has been standard procedure for many years.Yes, I know my niece studied in Barcelona for a semester and she had to show that she had adequate resources for before they gave her the student visa.
Maybe I should explain this remark: The entry requirements mentioned in the first post have been in place for decades. And they have been public knowledge for decades. They are listed in the Practical Handbook for Border Guards (Schengen Handbook) which has been accessible for the public for many years - both online and in print. They do indeed apply to travellers who are not EU nationals and don't require a visa - which includes US travellers for example. They are "can do" rules and not "must do" rules for border guards.Of course, for most of those 40 years, the rule did not apply to you. It is only in very recent years that it does and that’s why it is currently making headlines in some newspapers in the world
I think people are not reading the complete law. It depends from which country your passport is issued as to whether you have to show financial stability. European passports, US and Canada do not. Countries that are considered third world and for those planning on staying more than 90 days they may be required to show their ability to support themselves.I have a friend traveling to Madrid as the entry point for them doing the Camino next month and they read the entry requirements which require proof of finances for € 90 daily and if using a credit card for that proof a bank statement or the credit card statement. My friend is staying 3 weeks, has a RT confirmed ticket, hotels booked at the beginning and end of the Camino and had several bank and atm cards and $500 in euros.
I’ve been to Spain 6 times over the last 10 years and never had this come up entering Madrid. Anyone else ever have issues upon entry and if so what was required/shown to satisfy the officials?
Well American students are now exempt from proving financial ability when getting a student visa in the UK, so it seems the rules are relaxing for some of us!When I went to school to study in 1973 in England and some fellow classmates went to Italy, France and Spain we all had to show proof of having enough money before we got our student visas. When My daughter went overseas to study in 2013 I had to give her documentation for her student visa. I guess this has been standard procedure for many years.
I don't think that's exactly true. I think that any non EU citizen, even those from non-visa countries can be asked about their ability to support themselves if the border officer suspects that they may be planning to work or overstay.I think people are not reading the complete law. It depends from which country your passport is issued as to whether you have to show financial stability. European passports, US and Canada do not. Countries that are considered third world and for those planning on staying more than 90 days they may be required to show their ability to support themselves.
Good to know because it was a long long time ago for meWell American students are now exempt from proving financial ability when getting a student visa in the UK, so it seems the rules are relaxing for some of us!
To add to the mix, I saw this is an email from a travel insurance company:I have a friend traveling to Madrid as the entry point for them doing the Camino next month and they read the entry requirements which require proof of finances for € 90 daily and if using a credit card for that proof a bank statement or the credit card statement. My friend is staying 3 weeks, has a RT confirmed ticket, hotels booked at the beginning and end of the Camino and had several bank and atm cards and $500 in euros.
I’ve been to Spain 6 times over the last 10 years and never had this come up entering Madrid. Anyone else ever have issues upon entry and if so what was required/shown to satisfy the officials?
This comes up periodically.To add to the mix, I saw this is an email from a travel insurance company
4. You’ll need a visa waiver to travel to 26 European countries.
Thinking about traveling to Europe in 2023? Beginning in November, American travelers will need to apply for a visa waiver before visiting any of the 26 Schengen visa countries. In short: If you’re over 18 and under 70, you’ll have to fill out a form online and pay a €7 fee so you can be screened by the European Travel Information and Authorization System (ETIAS). This security system will issue an authorization for most travelers in minutes, although if you’re flagged as a security risk, it can take up to 96 hours for your application to be reviewed. For this reason, you shouldn’t wait until the last minute to apply. An ETIAS waiver is valid for three years.
After watching too many episodes of Border Security, I've come to the conclusion that border authorities are primarily concerned with those entering from less affluent countries who have the intention to work illegally, or may otherwise be a burden on the state.I have a friend traveling to Madrid as the entry point for them doing the Camino next month and they read the entry requirements which require proof of finances for € 90 daily and if using a credit card for that proof a bank statement or the credit card statement. My friend is staying 3 weeks, has a RT confirmed ticket, hotels booked at the beginning and end of the Camino and had several bank and atm cards and $500 in euros.
I’ve been to Spain 6 times over the last 10 years and never had this come up entering Madrid. Anyone else ever have issues upon entry and if so what was required/shown to satisfy the officials?
OMG, I am addicted to all the different versions of that show!!! And yes, they definitely are seeking a specific traveler profile.After watching too many episodes of Border Security
Student visas are different. The requirements for intending students are much stricter than for tourists in every country that I know of.When I went to school to study in 1973 in England and some fellow classmates went to Italy, France and Spain we all had to show proof of having enough money before we got our student visas. When My daughter went overseas to study in 2013 I had to give her documentation for her student visa. I guess this has been standard procedure for many years.
I'd be curious to see the episode. There are some of these TV episodes on Border Control (at EU airports) on YouTube including Spain but they all show customs control events and not passport control events. I'd be curious to know whether this guy was questioned at passport control or at customs (luggage) control.an episode where someone unsuccessfully used the cover of being a pilgrim to Santiago as his reason for wanting to enter the country yet had no money - he was not allowed after he couldn’t name any cities, albergues, etc. The border agent was well-versed on the route, apparently
Sixth degree..."The only time I got the sixth degree was entering Canada in a business suit with a briefcase, and coming back to the U.S."
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