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It's concerning that such a young person has symptoms bad enough that require hospitalization.My main camino friend in Madrid has sent me a link to this story.
Ocho peregrinos están confinados en un albergue de Palas por un positivo
Una de las integrantes del grupo fue ingresada en el Chus de Santiago âºSanidade desplazará personal al establecimiento para hacer las PCRwww.diariodepontevedra.es
Of a group of 9, one tested positive and is in the hospital. The other 8 are quarantining in Palas de Rei in a private albergue.
Stay safe peregrinos!
There are many young people in the USA as well as Spain being hospitalized from the Delta Variance. It is the Epidemic of the unvaccinated!It's concerning that such a young person has symptoms bad enough that require hospitalization.
There is no mention of any track and tracing in the news reports.
It appears that all of them have tested positive by now; apparently, the one who got ill and was tested first travelled by plane from Mallorca, took a bus to Sarria, and the group of 9 friends from uni then stayed in a place (polideportivo???) with either 50 other pilgrims or with beds for 50 pilgrims, occupied by other groups of pilgrims.
Luckily, the one tested and reported to have been admitted to a hospital in Santiago is reported as having only light symptoms.
Alfonso Rueda, vicepresident of the regional government insists that the Camino in Galicia is a safe route. The hotels and hostels are complying with the established protocols and, in addition, incidents do occur, they are isolated cases.
https://www.crtvg.es/informativos/o...n-palas-por-un-posible-gromo-de-covid-5220509 (video has some unrelated footage of current, mainly young, pilgrims in Galicia - fantastic weather apparently) and other news from Galicia
He also said - correctly - that last week around 7,000 pilgrims arrived in Santiago (to claim their Compostela).Alfonso Rueda, vicepresident of the regional government insists that the Camino in Galicia is a safe route. The hotels and hostels are complying with the established protocols and, in addition, while incidents do occur, they are isolated cases. That's what he said.
No mention of vaccines in the article. I wonder how many or if any had been vaccinated?
Does it matter (whether we know or don't know)? Fact is that there is a significant proportion of unvaccinated persons and that fully vaccinated persons can get infected. In the UK, the health minister, 51, double vaccinated, second dose received in May, felt a bit groggy last Friday, had a rapid test on Saturday that said he is infected, confirmed by a PCR test on Sunday.No mention of vaccines in the article. I wonder how many or if any had been vaccinated?
Does it matter?
Eeek.They had a communal dinner and I’m in a room where 8 of the 10 beds are filled. Some masks here but it’s rather relaxed, even at the bar where I went for an Estrella Galicia : ) Maybe smaller towns are like that?
All being fully vaccinated could make a big difference.Apparently, the group considered themselves a 'safe bubble' even if they came together recently from different corners of the country.
It doesn't work that way.....
Does it matter?
I should have been clearer. I meant to say: "Do we need to know whether these nine young pilgrims were vaccinated or not."YES. If your health condition allows, get vaccinated.
This is not accurate information. Do your own research.YES.
If your health condition allows, get vaccinated.
Vaccination does NOT prevent you from getting sick.
It is not a covid-germ-repellent.
It teaches your immunity system to face the real thing, so that with high probability, when you eventually get sick [which does require stronger infection than for unvaccinated people], you most likely won't end up in hospital, but "just" in bed with a fever and a headache.
Exceptions are possible. To compare vaccination to something most people can relate: you won't stop wearing seat belts in a car just because someone survived a crash without it, and the other guy did not with the belt on.
Apparently you haven't read how many people that are vaccinated are getting Covid? And passing it around?There are many young people in the USA as well as Spain being hospitalized from the Delta Variance. It is the Epidemic of the unvaccinated!
Young unvaccinated people travel in Spain and elsewhere in Europe right now and will continue to do so during the rest of July and August. I am not sure what you mean by "proof of vaccination needs to be required". My EU DC vaccination certificate is not an amuletIt seems crazy that unvaccinated people are traveling around. The result of the Delta variant spreading like wildfire is inevitable. There are certainly risks for spread among the vaccinated, but it’s far less likely one will become very sick. At the least , proof of vaccination needs to be required.
This is not surprising and is not distressing to the epidemiologists or the infectious diseases experts. It was expected. Passing an asymptomatic infection to other vaccinated people is not expected to result in the expression of disease in a significant number of cases. Some people will still get sick; some will still die. But the hospital systems won’t be shoved into such a high crisis that they can’t provide care for everyone (Cov+ or not).Apparently you haven't read how many people that are vaccinated are getting Covid? And passing it around?
Sadly, this virus is not over, not by any stretch. It is not a safe world, yet, and may take a few years to get there. It will have to be over before everyone will believe. And likely not even then.My main camino friend in Madrid has sent me a link to this story.
Ocho peregrinos están confinados en un albergue de Palas por un positivo
Una de las integrantes del grupo fue ingresada en el Chus de Santiago âºSanidade desplazará personal al establecimiento para hacer las PCRwww.diariodepontevedra.es
Of a group of 9, one tested positive and is in the hospital. The other 8 are quarantining in Palas de Rei in a private albergue.
Stay safe peregrinos!
Great analogyYES.
If your health condition allows, get vaccinated.
Vaccination does NOT prevent you from getting sick.
It is not a covid-germ-repellent.
It teaches your immunity system to face the real thing, so that with high probability, when you eventually get sick [which does require stronger infection than for unvaccinated people], you most likely won't end up in hospital, but "just" in bed with a fever and a headache.
Exceptions are possible. To compare vaccination to something most people can relate: you won't stop wearing seat belts in a car just because someone survived a crash without it, and the other guy did not with the belt on.
Of course you are right. What people of all ages can do is avoid leisure activities which can spread it to others.I guess I just wanted to say some young people can't avoid being exposed... I guess the same is true to everyone using public transport to get to school or work too.
Not being an epidemiologist, virologist, or public health expert I will trust what the overwhelming majority of experts in those fields who have years of study and work experience recommend.This is not accurate information. Do your own research.
please Note this just a comment about what you said, it’s not my intention to “start anything”There are many young people in the USA as well as Spain being hospitalized from the Delta Variance. It is the Epidemic of the unvaccinated!
In my area just around 46% are vaccinated, but when I go to the store only about 1-5% are wearing masks. Simple math tells me that most of the unmasked are also unvaccinated. Although I am vaccinated I wear a mask in most indoor public places.please Note this just a comment about what you said, it’s not my intention to “start anything”
before you comment about the unvaccinated being responsible for the new epidemic, please consider the fact that the vaccinated, don’t were mask, gather in large groups, takes more risks, less caution about taking appropriate measure and can carry the virus without knowing and spreading like wild fire, I think the vaccinated is the issue not the other way around. Just my two cents. Please don’t reply. Thanks
I’m fully vaccinated and continue to wear my mask as many others do. I’m a licensed healthcare professional who works in close contact with people in small closed rooms. I’m not permitted to ask others about their status and I can’t accurately guess if they are or aren’t vaccinated. Vaccination isn’t a guarantee that you don’t get the virus.please Note this just a comment about what you said, it’s not my intention to “start anything”
before you comment about the unvaccinated being responsible for the new epidemic, please consider the fact that the vaccinated, don’t were mask, gather in large groups, takes more risks, less caution about taking appropriate measure and can carry the virus without knowing and spreading like wild fire, I think the vaccinated is the issue not the other way around. Just my two cents. Please don’t reply. Thanks
It really does matter regarding whether or not a person is vaccinated or not. Young people are getting the Delta Variant as it is much more contagious and as you have noted many younger people are not vaccinated. Having the vaccine is not a guarantee that you are 100% safe and there will always be people who are fully vaccinated who will contract Covid especially in this more virulent strain. What the vaccine does help to insure that in the event a person does get Covid after vaccination they will very, very likely have symptoms that will not require hospitalization. There will always be outliers that a practitioner may see clinically. That may actually be significant in that individuals practice. But the statistical evidence is overwhelming that being fully vaccinated shows that a person is far safer not to contract the Covid and if they do it is far more likely they will not suffer serious effects.Does it matter? In the UK, the health minister, 51, double vaccinated, second dose received in May, felt a bit groggy last Friday, had a rapid test on Saturday that said he is infected, confirmed by a PCR test on Sunday.
And in addition to what @MinaKamina already mentioned, here are the percentages for the age group typical for university students in Spain:
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I tried to clarify what I meant to say in a later post. I have now also edited my earlier post. It now says: Does it matter (whether we know or don't know)? Fact is that there is a significant proportion of unvaccinated persons and that fully vaccinated persons can get infected.It really does matter regarding whether or not a person is vaccinated or not.
Just before I saw this post I thought about editing mine to just say that I am not sure but it sounds like you are saying that it does not matter at all if you have a vaccine. Not to assume that you felt that way but that is how it sounded. It is all good and have a really good day.I tried to clarify what I meant to say in a later post. I have now also edited my earlier post. It now says: Does it matter (whether we know or don't know)? Fact is that there is a significant proportion of unvaccinated persons and that fully vaccinated persons can get infected.
Even when vaccinated, someone can catch and pass on COVID, especially the delta variant.
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