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Is it the standard LP5 or the wide edition? I have LP3 which I managed to get new recently, they are definitely narrower than the Olympus 2.5 and 3.5. I like using the LP3 for normal activities and work but for doing a Camino they would be too narrow in the toe box and too shallow and every day would be a painful reminder of that.I have had LPs 3-5. I haven’t noticed much difference. This I managed to get some Olympus 4s. IMHO they fit similar to the LP.
I did try a wide fit Challenger and they didn’t feel quite as wide as the LP. My foot is 3 EEE wide... and my poor little toes suffer if the shoe is narrow.Have you tried Hoka shoes. They are broad/ wide and since I have tried both female and male sizes, they seem to be alike, unlike other brands where size european 42 is unlike for men and woman. I usually buy male shoes but in Hoka I have both kinds.
Interesting. I really will need a pair by September ... I’ll search for an older model but I didn’t have much luck earlier. At least after this hiccup the wide will be available for us.I was told by Northern Runners in Newcastle that the LP5 wide would not be available in the UK until September at the earliest,which is about a week too late for me. I tried becoming a member on the US company REI and having them shipped to my address, they seemed ok with some parts of my order but not the LP5, as soon as I tried to purchase they said not available for shipping, I could have got the Olympus4 shipped by them but I was only testing to see what orders they were comfortable with sending and not. I have seen some images of the LP5 wide and they look proper wide and deep, perfect for my feet.
I have had LPs 3-5. I haven’t noticed much difference. This I managed to get some Olympus 4s. IMHO they fit similar to the LP.
I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!
Hoka are much too spongy for my taste though, it's like walking on a bouncy castle.Have you tried Hoka shoes. They are broad/ wide and since I have tried both female and male sizes, they seem to be alike, unlike other brands where size european 42 is unlike for men and woman. I usually buy male shoes but in Hoka I have both kinds.
The narrower fit is a disaster for me too.Those who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.
I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!
I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.
Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?
Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes
I recently moved from Altra Lone Peaks to the Altra Timp. I wanted just a bit more cushion for the mixed trails of dirt and concrete walking. The Timp are still nice and wide. I wear a women’s US 8.5 in everyday shoes and a 9.5 for hiking shoes. As a reference, I have worn Altras since 2009 as my sole hiking shoes with no regrets, and Timp is my new favorite. Also, if the Altra website won’t ship the wide variety to Europe, try Amazon in your home country and that should avoid the duty tax. I have seen Altra there on Amazon. Here in California, I buy my Altra from Zappos for the free shipping and I know that is now an Amazon company as of a couple years ago, so maybe you have that there also.Those who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.
I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!
I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.
Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?
Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes
It's that extra cushion that I don't want though. And Amazon in the UK haven't had Lone Peaks for several months, even from US sources. useful info about Zappos, although we end up paying import taxes.I recently moved from Altra Lone Peaks to the Altra Timp. I wanted just a bit more cushion for the mixed trails of dirt and concrete walking. The Timp are still nice and wide. I wear a women’s US 8.5 in everyday shoes and a 9.5 for hiking shoes. As a reference, I have worn Altras since 2009 as my sole hiking shoes with no regrets, and Timp is my new favorite. Also, if the Altra website won’t ship the wide variety to Europe, try Amazon in your home country and that should avoid the duty tax. I have seen Altra there on Amazon. Here in California, I buy my Altra from Zappos for the free shipping and I know that is now an Amazon company as of a couple years ago, so maybe you have that there also.
Best of luck! Great shoes are hard to find!
I was at REI yesterday and I was going to try on the Altra Lone Peak, but the person there did not recommend it if you are wearing a backpack. She said the cushion would decrease (that is what happened to her). The person at REI did not recommend the HOKA either for the same reason. She ask me how heavy my pack would be and I told her 15 lbs with water. I tried on the Keen Terradora II Waterproof (they were comfortable) and I ordered today the non waterproof to try on. I am currently trying out the Merrell Zion. They are comfortable so far (the toe box is not huge, but wider than the others) I have been trying different shoes and taking shoes back if I don't like them. I am also trying out the Oboz Arete. It's hard picking out shoes!!! I was thinking boot style but now I am going for low shoes. The sizes are all over the place. I have been ordering 9.5 and 10. I typically wear a 9. The person at REI recommended I try the Salomon Outline too. The person at REI recommended to order half size to a size up in hiking shoes.Those who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.
I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!
I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.
Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?
Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes
There is currently a fashion for having extremely thick, padded shoes and it sounds as if your store person has fallen for the hype. It's very much a personal thing, some people's feet really appreciate the padding, other people have no problem with very little padding. It also makes a big difference the type of ground you are walking on. Pepl on the Portuguese routes often find that the cobbles are hard on their feet, for example, and more padded soles would be an advantage there. Only you will know how your feet deal with it. I dislike a lot of padding which is one reason I love my older Lone Peaks and strongly dislike Hoka.I was at REI yesterday and I was going to try on the Altra Lone Peak, but the person there did not recommend it if you are wearing a backpack. She said the cushion would decrease (that is what happened to her). The person at REI did not recommend the HOKA either for the same reason. She ask me how heavy my pack would be and I told her 15 lbs with water. I tried on the Keen Terradora II Waterproof (they were comfortable) and I ordered today the non waterproof to try on. I am currently trying out the Merrell Zion. They are comfortable so far (the toe box is not huge, but wider than the others) I have been trying different shoes and taking shoes back if I don't like them. I am also trying out the Oboz Arete. It's hard picking out shoes!!! I was thinking boot style but now I am going for low shoes. The sizes are all over the place. I have been ordering 9.5 and 10. I typically wear a 9. The person at REI recommended I try the Salomon Outline too. The person at REI recommended to order half size to a size up in hiking shoes.
I was at REI yesterday and I was going to try on the Altra Lone Peak, but the person there did not recommend it if you are wearing a backpack. She said the cushion would decrease (that is what happened to her). The person at REI did not recommend the HOKA either for the same reason. She ask me how heavy my pack would be and I told her 15 lbs with water. I tried on the Keen Terradora II Waterproof (they were comfortable) and I ordered today the non waterproof to try on. I am currently trying out the Merrell Zion. They are comfortable so far (the toe box is not huge, but wider than the others) I have been trying different shoes and taking shoes back if I don't like them. I am also trying out the Oboz Arete. It's hard picking out shoes!!! I was thinking boot style but now I am going for low shoes. The sizes are all over the place. I have been ordering 9.5 and 10. I typically wear a 9. The person at REI recommended I try the Salomon Outline too. The person at REI recommended to order half size to a size up in hiking shoes.
It’s very upsetting when your favourite shoes aren’t available. I bought a few spare pairs of the Lone Peak 4s which I bought through Run & Become in Victoria. Perhaps they can import what you needThose who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.
I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!
I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.
Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?
Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes
I have had the Timp 3s for a couple months now and I walk about 50km a week. They are holding up pretty well so far. I generally wear 11 1/2 in US sizing and bought these in a 12. They fit quite snuggly at first but loosened up within a day to be very comfortable. I use pretty thin socks so factor that into your shoe sizing. They do benefit from using lace locking as that prevented my heel from riding up and also created more support in the mid-foot.I have very wide feet, and I am currently switching off during training between Altra Lone Peak 5's in a Men's 10 1/2 wide, and the Hoka Speedgoats in a Men's 11 wide. The Hoka Speedgoat wides are a LOT more narrow than the Lone Peak wides even though they are a 1/2 size larger. In fact, when lacing up the Speedgoats, I have skipped the first two sets of holes as I've seen advised to give a roomier feel in the toe box. I can only wear lightweight socks with the Speedgoats, and I can wear medium-weight socks with the Lone Peaks.
I am using Currex Hike Pro insoles in the Lone Peaks to provide extra cushion, and this is very comfortable. I also will be trying Sole brand moldable insoles in them to see which works best on long walks. Many people bring an extra pair of after-market insoles like these along on their Camino to maintain cushioning in their shoes throughout the trip.
I will definitely try on the Altra Olympus 4's even though they don't come in wide sizes to see if they fit as well as the Lone Peaks because the additional cushioning and traction would be a big plus. The MTN Racer 2's and the Topos also sound very good, and I will also try on to see if these might work better than the relatively narrow Hoka Speedgoat wides.
I read a post on the Facebook Camino group that the Lone Peak Timps only held up for 100 miles. Someone at REI told me that even Salomons in a wide are not very wide. I have also read that often the salespeople at REI are not familiar with Camino backpacking, and are making recommendations for backpacking shoes based more on carrying a backpack with a tent, plus food for several days that weighs a whole lot more, and carrying it over very rugged terrain. As has often been said, you need to find what works for you personally rather than base your decision on what works best for someone else.
I’m debating betweven wearing my Topo Terraventures vs. a brand new pair of Timp 2 that I got on sale when the 3’s came out. Wore out the soles on a pair of Timp 2s that I bought for my cancelled 2020 Camino. Topo has a sturdier Vibram sole, toe box seems slightly narrower. Lone Peaks bunch up across my foot- too much volume in the front for me.I just want to give a second vote on the Topos. I also transitioned from the LPs (having worn them on 3 Caminhos) to Topos. The toe box and amount of cushion feel nice, and the 5 mm drop should help keep my Achilles from overworking with a pack on (a problem I found with the LPs). So far, I like the shoe a lot. Good luck!
The Lone Peak is a barge and might be too wide;
Yes, the Altra Lone Peak 10.5 wides are a bit barge-like. I feel a bit like I am wearing those oversized shoes Hobbits wear.I have men’s 10.5
* Hoka Bondi 6 wide (not ultra wide)
* Hoka Speedgoat 4 wide (not waterproof)
* Altra Lone Peak 5 wide (not waterproof)
The Bondis are not wide enough (but my favorite for asphalt walking, will be buying ultra wide in the 7s).
The Speedgoats are just right with a light or medium sock.
The Lone Peak is a barge and might be too wide; I’ve not put serious miles on them yet. (I put heel lifts in them because I’m not a huge fan of zero drop and to add a little more volume displacement).
That’s my experience with the relative widths.
I think gaiters might be a decent solution. My issue with water proof shoes was that they turned into boats as the rain ran off my legs and straight in. I’m using a hiking kilt now which does seem to let the water shed further out so that might helpHi, thank you. that's the conundrum, isnt it. the lp's get wet when walking in grass/snow, but stay suprisingly comfortable and dry quickly, though not necessarily in one night. but the wp's def won't dry in a night when wet. gaitors may be the solution for rainy days, but are another thing to bring.
Mud, rain and cold made a november Mozarabe miserable for the feet and am trying to do better!
Thanks again and enjoy prepping for your camino.
I definitely found the WP ones to stay more ‘snug’ whereas the uppers on the standard ones relaxed a bit. I had a dramatic change in the fit of my Timp 3s (My most recent shoe) after wearing them for a day. I was concerned they were too tight at first and then they fit perfectly.Lots of good info here and in other threads about the trade-offs involved with waterproof shoes.
One thing I’m interested in is whether the waterproofing makes, say, a 10.5 EE waterproofed Lone Peak snugger than a 10.5 EE non-waterproofed Lone Peak.
As has been pointed out here endlessly, the fit and comfort of your shoes and your pack are the two most important factors (and after two Caminos, I completely agree), but I’ve only figured out what does and doesn’t work after a very thorough trial period - too long to feel comfortable returning anything that doesn’t work *for me*, even at places with liberal return policies like REI.
This is very expensive R&D.
You can change the insole to Superfeet Greens (as one example) and that should help a lot! I’m trying the Timps because they have thicker soles and are wide enough for me. I still might put Superfeet in them thoughI noticed some activity on this thread and realised that I never updated on the LP wide. Thankfully I was in the UK in August so was able to buy a pair. Previously I bought a man's EU 44... that was way too big. So I bought a man's 43 and again too big... I bought a man's 42 in a wide and bingo... fits great.
I walked 300km in those shoes in September right out of the box with no blisters... Yeah!!
The LP 5 wide felt good, the sizing is different than the last few versions but once I'd found the size I was happy... so I recommend you play around to get the right shoe. I still have to buy a man's shoe as the ladies version is too narrow.
The one thing I felt that was different was the shoe felt a little harder underfoot? My feet ached more at the end of the day? I don't know if that's just me or if for some reason they are less padded or spongy? But... I'll take that because the shoe fits me so well and the traction is so good. I'm off for another 300km in a few days in the same shoe... I hope the no blisters continue for me
thank you, good question, I hadn't thought about that.Lots of good info here and in other threads about the trade-offs involved with waterproof shoes.
One thing I’m interested in is whether the waterproofing makes, say, a 10.5 EE waterproofed Lone Peak snugger than a 10.5 EE non-waterproofed Lone Peak.
As has been pointed out here endlessly, the fit and comfort of your shoes and your pack are the two most important factors (and after two Caminos, I completely agree), but I’ve only figured out what does and doesn’t work after a very thorough trial period - too long to feel comfortable returning anything that doesn’t work *for me*, even at places with liberal return policies like REI.
This is very expensive R&D.
Thank you.I definitely found the WP ones to stay more ‘snug’ whereas the uppers on the standard ones relaxed a bit. I had a dramatic change in the fit of my Timp 3s (My most recent shoe) after wearing them for a day. I was concerned they were too tight at first and then they fit perfectly.
Thank you, and also for starting this thread. sizing def changed with LP5, for the next ones i'll go down half a size. I feel they have more support on the side (compared to 4.5). I use them for trailrunning here in the alps and love the traction and the direct feel of them.I noticed some activity on this thread and realised that I never updated on the LP wide. Thankfully I was in the UK in August so was able to buy a pair. Previously I bought a man's EU 44... that was way too big. So I bought a man's 43 and again too big... I bought a man's 42 in a wide and bingo... fits great.
I walked 300km in those shoes in September right out of the box with no blisters... Yeah!!
The LP 5 wide felt good, the sizing is different than the last few versions but once I'd found the size I was happy... so I recommend you play around to get the right shoe. I still have to buy a man's shoe as the ladies version is too narrow.
The one thing I felt that was different was the shoe felt a little harder underfoot? My feet ached more at the end of the day? I don't know if that's just me or if for some reason they are less padded or spongy? But... I'll take that because the shoe fits me so well and the traction is so good. I'm off for another 300km in a few days in the same shoe... I hope the no blisters continue for me
Yes I agree they do feel more secure in the mid foot. Overall I think the LP 5 is great... and maybe the sizing issues are just correcting problems in previous models?Thank you, and also for starting this thread. sizing def changed with LP5, for the next ones i'll go down half a size. I feel they have more support on the side (compared to 4.5). I use them for trailrunning here in the alps and love the traction and the direct feel of them.
Am now also looking at the Timp to have a bit more padding for the cobble stones. Do you have any experience with them?
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