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Mud and more mud

jennysa

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Camino Frances (2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 Camino Aragones 2012, 2017, Via Francigena 2016 & 17,
#1
A very large percentage of the Primitivo is under mud (often ankle deep) and streams of water. My New Balance shoes are totally inappropriate. I have wet feet, wet socks and wet shoes permanently. I would recommend that anyone planning to walk this route should invest in waterproof boots. Much easier to slosh through the mud and water in them.
 

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alaskadiver

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Camino(s) past & future
May 2017-Camino Primitivo
2019- Invierno
#2
Husband and I did the Primitivo last May and we encountered sections with deep mud. We both had waterproof footwear and were glad we did. We also wore short (ankle high) gaiters. No wet feet and no blisters.
 

nycwalking

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CF: (2001, 2002, 2004, 2014). Hospitalera: 2002, Ponferrada. 2004, Rabanal del Camino.
#3
There is no mud like Spanish camino mud. Winter 2014, I had to switch out my Nike running shoes, which never failed me on camino, for waterproof boots. Why? Mud.
 

t2andreo

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C/F: 2013, 2014
C/M: 2016
C/P: 2015, 2017
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#4
There is a reason that many of us choose to wear ankle-high waterproof hiking boots made of gore tex or a similar upper material... Thank you for illustrating it so clearly.

I HATE mud! But it is a necessary feature of the Camino, on any route.

As a general rule, the only time of year you can be reasonably sure of not having significant rain, or mud, is during the hottest summer months, from mid-June (like now) until the beginning of September. It still rains, but with less frequency, duration and intensity.

Were I to consider using low cut footwear, it would only be for a summer Camino.

Hope this helps.
 

Felice

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SJPP to Santiago Sept 2014
#5
I walked the Primitivo lady May, I think I was about 3 or 4 days behind alaskadiver. I had no problems at all, walking in trail runners. There was one muddy stretch, that was highlighted in the guide, but I was able to hop around the worst bits one way or another. I saw many people using the road in preference for that section.

Deciding on footwear is the most difficult packing question of all for me. I start by reviewing past year weather, using wunderground, then, in the couple of weeks before I leave, I become obsessed with the BBC weather forecast map for northern Spain. I’m watching the bands of cloud, trying to decide how serious the rain is, whether there is time for the worst to have dried up etc. I make my final decision on what footwear to take at the last possible moment, when I have a rough idea as to what the weather might be like over the next 10 days. I know it won’t be 100% accurate, but at least I will know whether to expect lots of rain or lots of hot sunshine. That approach has worked well for me for all four caminos that I have walked in May.

I’ve also been lucky, in that I’ve always been able to walk in my preferred footwear, ie trail runners. But I would not hesitate to take my ‘proper’ walking shoes that I wear in the Lake District in the UK, if it looked like the conditions suggested otherwise.
 

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#6
We've delayed our May Camino until the end of September/beginning of October and we're hoping that it will be drier. Surely can't be any worse can it???
 

LTfit

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#10
A very large percentage of the Primitivo is under mud (often ankle deep) and streams of water. My New Balance shoes are totally inappropriate. I have wet feet, wet socks and wet shoes permanently. I would recommend that anyone planning to walk this route should invest in waterproof boots. Much easier to slosh through the mud and water in them.
Thanks for the heads-up Jenny! I am walking the Camino de Madrid and have two days till Sahagún where I need to decide if I walk to León then follow the Salvador or head up to Oviedo to walk the Primitivo. The weather has been on my mind, especially in the mountains. Your post confirms my suspicion...

Hmmm I am walking (as usual) in Salomon trail runners, a lighter model than usual. Perfect for this Camino, even in mud as it is mostly flat. I might need to change my plans as I am not going to buy new shoes now!
 

chinacat

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#12
We've delayed our May Camino until the end of September/beginning of October and we're hoping that it will be drier. Surely can't be any worse can it???
i walked at the end of Sepember (on CF) and vividly remember the trudge through 6” deep red mud on the uphill stretch to the road, just before the village before Cirauqui ... sorry, I can’t remember its name. We rested for a couple of minutes under the trees in the square .... because it was soooo hot :rolleyes::D
 

spursfan

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#14
At least, when I walked from Oviedo to Lugo some four weeks ago, the very worst section of mud that I encountered was between La Espina and Tineo - in fact, I went down and found a bicycle path beside the busy road for the last three km into Tineo; wrung my two pairs of socks out, washed my trail runners and was fine to go the following day - but that's a very small percentage in total (some 10 km out of 200 km)

So I certainly disagree that mud covers a very large percentage of the Primitivo and also that it is necessary to use waterproof boots and not trail runners - especially as mud rarely sticks to trail runners and water doesn't remain long on them either - just bring an extra pair of socks would be my advice
 

ritaj

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#15
I walked the Primitivo lady May, I think I was about 3 or 4 days behind alaskadiver. I had no problems at all, walking in trail runners. There was one muddy stretch, that was highlighted in the guide, but I was able to hop around the worst bits one way or another. I saw many people using the road in preference for that section.

Deciding on footwear is the most difficult packing question of all for me. I start by reviewing past year weather, using wunderground, then, in the couple of weeks before I leave, I become obsessed with the BBC weather forecast map for northern Spain. I’m watching the bands of cloud, trying to decide how serious the rain is, whether there is time for the worst to have dried up etc. I make my final decision on what footwear to take at the last possible moment, when I have a rough idea as to what the weather might be like over the next 10 days. I know it won’t be 100% accurate, but at least I will know whether to expect lots of rain or lots of hot sunshine. That approach has worked well for me for all four caminos that I have walked in May.

I’ve also been lucky, in that I’ve always been able to walk in my preferred footwear, ie trail runners. But I would not hesitate to take my ‘proper’ walking shoes that I wear in the Lake District in the UK, if it looked like the conditions suggested otherwise.
Hello Felice! We walked the Primitivo this past month in trainers/trail runners, from May 16 until June 4, and although there were several places with mud it wasn't difficult to go high along the edges so I guess it all depends on the particular times one walks. We counted ourselves lucky since we loved our trainers and no one had any blisters. The few times they got wet I carried an extra pair of insoles which I inserted after we arrived and, with dry socks, was comfortable wearing them when necessary. And they were always dry in the morning (stuffing with newspaper also helped that be so). Maybe just lucky?
 

jennysa

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Camino Frances (2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 Camino Aragones 2012, 2017, Via Francigena 2016 & 17,
#17
It is not only the mud. There has been so much rain that the water does not seep into the ground and just sits there. We were wading in water in the Hospitales route. From Grandes De Salimas it's been a lot drier. My New Balance trail shoes that I swear by have been inappropriate. Also once you cross over to Galicia the paths are much wider and it's drier as well
 

Annette london

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Camino Frances 2005,2008,2010,2015.camino Portuguese 2007 .primativo2012.camino Norte 2009.sjpdp to finisterre and muxia 2007. Le Puy to jpdp 2006. Via francigena vercelli to Lucca 2014. Lucca to Rome 2016.
#18
Thanks for the heads-up Jenny! I am walking the Camino de Madrid and have two days till Sahagún where I need to decide if I walk to León then follow the Salvador or head up to Oviedo to walk the Primitivo. The weather has been on my mind, especially in the mountains. Your post confirms my suspicion...

Hmmm I am walking (as usual) in Salomon trail runners, a lighter model than usual. Perfect for this Camino, even in mud as it is mostly flat. I might need to change my plans as I am not going to buy new shoes now!
Hope you do decide to walk the Salvidor
We're heading to Oviedo tomorrow and the weather has been wonderful for the past 6 days
Yes, some mud though but doesn't sound as bad as the Primitivo!
Best wishes
Annette
 

cherrys

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Camino Frances Sept/Oct (2013), Finisterre/Muxia Oct (2013), Camino Frances and on to Finisterre Sept/Oct (2016)
#19
At least, when I walked from Oviedo to Lugo some four weeks ago, the very worst section of mud that I encountered was between La Espina and Tineo - in fact, I went down and found a bicycle path beside the busy road for the last three km into Tineo; wrung my two pairs of socks out, washed my trail runners and was fine to go the following day - but that's a very small percentage in total (some 10 km out of 200 km)

So I certainly disagree that mud covers a very large percentage of the Primitivo and also that it is necessary to use waterproof boots and not trail runners - especially as mud rarely sticks to trail runners and water doesn't remain long on them either - just bring an extra pair of socks would be my advice
I remember that section before Tineo very well. We walked there May 2017, picking our way along the edge if possible. Then I stepped on a “dry” clump of grass only to find my ankle disappearing in the muck. The plus side? I was walking the Norte/Primativo in hiking sandals. So I just slogged quickly through the rest of that section, rinsing my feet in every stream I could find. I’ll never walk in anything else and I have a new pair waiting for the Portuguese this fall. My husband still wears trail runners!
 
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#20
Would a pair of gaiters be appropriate for anyone arriving there in the next 2 weeks or so?
 

LTfit

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#22
Hope you do decide to walk the Salvidor
We're heading to Oviedo tomorrow and the weather has been wonderful for the past 6 days
Yes, some mud though but doesn't sound as bad as the Primitivo!
Best wishes
Annette
Thanks but decided to save it for another year and combine with the Primitivo. I met up with some nice people in Sahagún when I arrived from the Madrid and we are now at Villares de Órbigo on the Francés. It looks like I'll even arrive in Santiago. That's the Camino for you!
 

ksam

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Camino Portuguese May "08" Camino Frances May/June "11" del Norte Sept/Oct "14"/Camino Invierno May 2016/ Camino Ingles Oct 2017
#23
Definitely wondering what this fall will be like!! :eek:
 
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