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Looks like a great list to me. The inner waterproof liner in the Aarn pack, assuming it is the same inner as in my Featherlite, will keep everything dry - one of the good features. I prefer a poncho to a jacket generally but often take both and I need both - the jacket can be far too warm it sometimes it is good for the wind and evenings.Koilife, thank you for your comments and suggestions
Re: Altus poncho it was a comment on another thread about the pressure of shoulder straps of backpacks potentially invalidating the waterproofing of jackets that made me consider a poncho.
As far as I know the Aarn backpack is waterproof-ish, but will, following your suggestion (for which thank you), consider buying a pack cover.
Dr Bronner's is not a product of which I was previously aware. In my youth at boarding school we just used soap for body and hair - seemed to do the job - but if staying in an albergue I will buy soap locally and leave behind.
My intention is, as much as possible (I am a foghorn of a snorer and being of a certain age I do need the bog on occasions during the night) to stay in hostals, hotels and the few Paradores on the route so as not to annoy or incommode others.
As to "pre-dawn walking" I have not intention of trying to be on the Camino before the locals are up and providing provender and beverages so I cannot envisage needing a red light head torch!!
Not sure about what money belt to have but I do have my father's from WW2.
My "meds" sans packaging weigh very very little - anything else I find I need, including clothing, I will buy locally.
I should have mentioned that I will be travelling from the south of England to SJPdP by train. So the vast sums of money that you guys, coming from other parts of the globe, are having to pay airlines I am not having to expend thus I can therefore afford to be slightly more self-indulgent!
Actually, my comment about Tilley and Dr. Bronner's being all that you need is based on their tongue and cheek miraculous claims about their products. It wasn't a serious recommendation. (P.S. Before I get eaten and shat out by Tilley fans, I have used the same Tilley for almost 20 years now.)Dr Bronner's is not a product of which I was previously aware. In my youth at boarding school we just used soap for body and hair - seemed to do the job - but if staying in an albergue I will buy soap locally and leave behind.
If the Aarn is waterproofed and no pack cover is needed, one more reason to like them! I would still recommend using waterproof stuff sacks (or dry bags) for sleeping bag, clothes, and any other critical items in the event of abrasion or seam seal failures.Looks like a great list to me. The inner waterproof liner in the Aarn pack, assuming it is the same inner as in my Featherlite, will keep everything dry - one of the good features. I prefer a poncho to a jacket generally but often take both and I need both - the jacket can be far too warm it sometimes it is good for the wind and evenings.
Never experienced that myself, but I do sweat a lot under my pack straps, so maybe the poster was experiencing something like that???Re: Altus poncho it was a comment on another thread about the pressure of shoulder straps of backpacks potentially invalidating the waterproofing of jackets that made me consider a poncho.
The more I think of it, the pack cover isn't really viable with the Aarn front strap bags anyways. I'd still recommend dry bags for protection against critical items.As far as I know the Aarn backpack is waterproof-ish, but will, following your suggestion (for which thank you), consider buying a pack cover.
Indulge away, my friend! I could stay in hostels, pensions, and casa rurals the entire way for the price of a ticket. But, I think I'd really spend it on fine Spanish cuisine and wine, given half the chance.I should have mentioned that I will be travelling from the south of England to SJPdP by train. So the vast sums of money that you guys, coming from other parts of the globe, are having to pay airlines I am not having to expend thus I can therefore afford to be slightly more self-indulgent!
Never experienced that myself, but I do sweat a lot under my pack straps, so maybe the poster was experiencing something like that???
The more I think of it, the pack cover isn't really viable with the Aarn front strap bags anyways. I'd still recommend dry bags for protection against critical items.
Indulge away, my friend! I could stay in hostels, pensions, and casa rurals the entire way for the price of a ticket. But, I think I'd really spend it on fine Spanish cuisine and wine, given half the chance.
The drybag system you describe is far better that silicone or polyurethane impregnated pack cloth, which is what I thought you were describing. Short of a puncture or burst seam, I can't see it failing.It is not the Aarn pack itself that is watertight - but the Aarn inner dry bag that comes fitted with Velcro to the pack (on my model anyway) - I squeeze the air out of the dry bag, Velcro the dry bag together at the top and then roll it down like a canoe bag and secure the ends to each other. My spouse and I can't think of an occasion when the system failed and things got wet, but I do tend to have a poncho over the top in really heavy rain anyway.
I have experienced water leaking into shoulder seams, or somewhere in that region, and down my back - it happens to me wearing a Goretex jacket but never when I have a poncho over the top. So I don't think it is sweat. Maybe just not a very good jacket. I do know that Goretex and Event are not fail proof - the very fact that they "breathe" means they are not impenetrable.
Ah, the joys of walking in the rain. If you don't get wet from the outside, the chances are you will get wet from the inside. It's not the end of the world - you get wet, you dry out and get warm, life is good.
We have used our Aarn backpacks for three caminos now ( just finished Le Puy to SJPP last week) and in all sorts of weather including torrential rain at times they never leaked - we didn't take a poncho. Aarn says you can float them down a river and they won't get wet inside! We do take waterproof pants and goretex jackets, but even in rain you get wet from sweat. We invested in quality stuff to start with and have definitely got our value out of it. ( and this time I bought pacerpoles because I broke my arm this time last year and was worried how it would go with trad poles - very happy with the pacer poles, it's a great design). I also use bridgedale socks and they last really well. I would add a little elastic clothesline, weighs nothing and is invaluable. My pack list is on the thread ( along with lots of other peoples).Koilife, thank you for your comments and suggestions
Re: Altus poncho it was a comment on another thread about the pressure of shoulder straps of backpacks potentially invalidating the waterproofing of jackets that made me consider a poncho.
As far as I know the Aarn backpack is waterproof-ish, but will, following your suggestion (for which thank you), consider buying a pack cover.
Dr Bronner's is not a product of which I was previously aware. In my youth at boarding school we just used soap for body and hair - seemed to do the job - but if staying in an albergue I will buy soap locally and leave behind.
My intention is, as much as possible (I am a foghorn of a snorer and being of a certain age I do need the bog on occasions during the night) to stay in hostals, hotels and the few Paradores on the route so as not to annoy or incommode others.
As to "pre-dawn walking" I have not intention of trying to be on the Camino before the locals are up and providing provender and beverages so I cannot envisage needing a red light head torch!!
Not sure about what money belt to have but I do have my father's from WW2.
My "meds" sans packaging weigh very very little - anything else I find I need, including clothing, I will buy locally.
I should have mentioned that I will be travelling from the south of England to SJPdP by train. So the vast sums of money that you guys, coming from other parts of the globe, are having to pay airlines I am not having to expend thus I can therefore afford to be slightly more self-indulgent!
Sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen--- protect yourself from the sun. You can buy sunscreen in Spain, but you might need to take out a second mortgage on your house to afford it.
It wasn't clear, but are you planning to buy an Altus poncho in Spain? Personally I would pass on the Altus, although I know many swear by it. I can't see adding two pounds for a redundant piece of equipment that will have condensation issues like every other rain gear if it is raining hard enough. If it is raining hard enough and long enough, no rain gear will keep you completely dry. You can hope for damp and adequately warm as a best outcome in those circumstances. Of course this issue is discussed in great depth on other threads, and there are many differences of opinion. In other areas of your pack list you are obviously trying to be light. Don't throw it all away on redundant rain gear.
My Aarn backpack does not have the inner dry liner Kanga wrote about.
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Kanga, see my earlier post on this thread re: EXPED Waterproof Compression Bags.Yes, pity, I just looked up the Aarn website and your model does not have the inner liner. My spouse uses Sea to Summit dry bags in the panniers of his motorbike and they work well. A bit heavier and more rugged than my Aarn inner liner.
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