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Ibuprofen is a popular painkiller which is mentioned often on this forum and in many YouTube Camino videos. I was warned about it by my doctor before I walked my Camino Frances earlier this year. Ibuprofen is known to increase blood pressure in some people. I used a topical anti-inflammatory ointment - Voltaren - but not the oral version of the same medication - Ibuprofen. The survey is worth considering, I think. Of course, every body is
Buen Camino, - Mike[
Voltarene (Voltarol in UK) is in fact Dicofenac, more powerful than Ibuprofen, and when used orally increases the risk of a cardiovascular event. Better used topically, as you say, but never use both together.https://www.theguardian.com/science...d-to-increase-risk-of-heart-failure-bmj-finds
Ibuprofen is a popular painkiller which is mentioned often on this forum and in many YouTube Camino videos. I was warned about it by my doctor before I walked my Camino Frances earlier this year. Ibuprofen is known to increase blood pressure in some people. I used a topical anti-inflammatory ointment - Voltaren - but not the oral version of the same medication - Ibuprofen. The survey is worth considering, I think. Of course, every body is different.
Buen Camino, - Mike
A fascinating response. I soothed very sore muscles every afternoon with lots of stinking-hot running water. (I just edited that last sentence. The water was stinking-hot. The water wasn't stinking and hot!) I'm now into yoga to eliminate lingering mild plantar fasciitis. Was told after returning that a magnesium deficiency probably contributed to muscle pain and soreness while under extra stress on the Camino.I have tendinitis at the moment couldn't walk without ibuprofen in the morning. I use vino tinto in the evening to ease the pain. I'm in Leon right now and it seems a pretty popular combination. I'll detox my liver when I get home.
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gosh, it's a big jump down off of this soapbox...er, anyone able to give me a hand?
but I have bed bugs. And I snoreJust stay up there, I am tempted to join you ;-) Buen Camino, SY
Is bleeding of the stomach lining not a recognised possible side effect of too much aspirin? I use blood-thinning medicinal aspirin every day - it has a hard coating which doesn't dissolve until the aspirin is through to the intestine.I carried aspirin with me. Both 325 mg and 81 mg. Days I was really sore, the 325's. Otherwise just took my daily 81.
Did bring some Aleve (naproxen sodium), and took it a few times for pain relief, but it didn't seem to work any better than the 325 mg aspirin. I never took both aspirin and Aleve on the same day.
I use the non-coated variety in both doses and chew/grind them up in my mouth with a meal whenever possible, or with water. I figure it helps the aspirin process faster within my body and prevents the irritation to the stomach lining. I have also taken the coated variety in the 81 mg dose.Is bleeding of the stomach lining not a recognised possible side effect of too much aspirin? I use blood-thinning medicinal aspirin every day - it has a hard coating which doesn't dissolve until the aspirin is through to the intestine.
This thread is getting kind of pedantic. But necessarily so. Sorry. Complex issues.
Voltarol in Spain is called Voltadol. It contains diclofenac which was mentioned in the newspaper article.Can second that from my own experience. OK, I wasn't addmited to the hospital because of heart failure or similar but when taking diclofenac and/or ibuprofen because of ankles/knees pain my blood pressure is higher for a week or so after that.
Also remember similar post on this forum in the past about side effects of diclofenac. High risk of damage to your liver.
I guess anything you take in higher than normal doses is risky at some point. But then again - what is normal?
I find tinto de verano very refreshing on a hot dayTo Marion,
Drink more of what?
Cafe con leche when you can finally find it in the morning,
Water to hydrate during the day,
Vino tinto for your health,
Vino blanco for the hell of it,
and finally vino rose when it's a hot day.
Kas Limon isn't bad either.
To Marion,
Drink more of what?
Cafe con leche when you can finally find it in the morning,
Water to hydrate during the day,
Vino tinto for your health,
Vino blanco for the hell of it,
and finally vino rose when it's a hot day.
Kas Limon isn't bad either.
I see we have drifted back to the non prescription, over the counter medicine againI find tinto de verano very refreshing on a hot day
You can also try a Strassburg sock, Mike, if it's available in Australia.A fascinating response. I soothed very sore muscles every afternoon with lots of stinking-hot running water. (I just edited that last sentence. The water was stinking-hot. The water wasn't stinking and hot!) I'm now into yoga to eliminate lingering mild plantar fasciitis. Was told after returning that a magnesium deficiency probably contributed to muscle pain and soreness while under extra stress on the Camino.
In another thread I said watching pre-ring preparations at dog shows was like a visit to the mercardo de brujas...here I would say any given night in an albergue (especially the first third of the walk) is like a street corner in Baltimore. I would gently recommend not trading medication, not exceeding dosages of prescribed/OTC medication, following all of the label warnings (even those surrounding alcohol), and not treating your bunk mate unless you have the appropriate medical degree. Just because it can be bought without prescription, doesn't mean it's safe to take a little extra, or to devise your own treatment schedule. I know in the age of internet it is difficult to believe, but there actually is a reason some people devote quite a lot of time and effort in school to learn the ways to use medication safely.
gosh, it's a big jump down off of this soapbox...er, anyone able to give me a hand?
Yes Strassburg socks are available in Australia from many suppliers. Just search 'Strassburg sock site:au' and you'll get lots of options and prices.You can also try a Strassburg sock, Mike, if it's available in Australia.
Sorry; I don't give any information about medication; I'm not a doctor or pharmacist. The sock is non-medicinal therapy only. (But works!)
We're gonna need a bigger soapbox! Count me in/on!
They also recommended RoseHip for any ongoing inflammation and alerted me to Australia's Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) review of the safety of the NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory ie ibuprofen, diclofenac and naproxen) following increasing reports of dangerous cardiovascular complications. These medications will carry warnings from next year that they could put people at risk of heart attack and stroke. Even a few weeks of using the drugs could increase a person's risk of a fatal heart attack.
"The TGA said its review found the medications were safe when they were used according to the recommended doses for short durations, as instructed on the label.
However, inappropriate use or overuse of these medicines could pose a significant risk of cardiovascular events and, in the case of diclofenac, (liver toxicity)," it said.
All forms of ibuprofen, diclofenac and naproxen will now carry a warning that using them at high doses can increase your risk of high blood pressure, heart attack and stroke. The warning will state: Do not use for more than a few days at a time unless a doctor has told you to. Do not exceed the recommended dose. Excessive use can be harmful and increase the risk of heart attack, stroke or liver damage.
Most medications will be expected to carry the label by July 2016, although some have been given an extension until January 2017."
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