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JohnnieWalker said:Hi - like you I'm fascinated by this question. Back in September I posted the full list plus some interesting analysis here: http://johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot. ... s-too.html
It is also notable that there are more pilgrims from Ireland than the rest of the UK put together. Some people say that is because Ireland is a Catholic country but as you rightly point out what about Germany and Holland - both protestant countries.
My own suspicion is that it ain't the religiousness of a country but is possibly more to do with whether there is a tradition now or in the past of pilgrimage. This is certainly the case in present day Ireland much more so than Scotland, England or Wales. Who knows - but very interesting!
John
JohnnieWalker said:My own suspicion is that it ain't the religiousness of a country but is possibly more to do with whether there is a tradition now or in the past of pilgrimage.
John
methodist.pilgrim.98 said:The Reformation in Britain effectively ended the idea of going on pilgrimage as part of our spiritual heritage.
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But we discussed above that other countries have had a Reformation, including the country of Luther, and yet those countries are very numerous on the camino. So what's different about England, or indeed the UK?
Caminando said:methodist.pilgrim.98 said:The Reformation in Britain effectively ended the idea of going on pilgrimage as part of our spiritual heritage.
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But we discussed above that other countries have had a Reformation, including the country of Luther, and yet those countries are very numerous on the camino. So what's different about England, or indeed the UK?
Sure, but many people from many countries walk the camino for non religious/spiritual reasons. So why dont UK people?
The plot thickens....
methodist.pilgrim.98 said:Caminando said:methodist.pilgrim.98 said:The Reformation in Britain effectively ended the idea of going on pilgrimage as part of our spiritual heritage.
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But we discussed above that other countries have had a Reformation, including the country of Luther, and yet those countries are very numerous on the camino. So what's different about England, or indeed the UK?
Sure, but many people from many countries walk the camino for non religious/spiritual reasons. So why dont UK people?
The plot thickens....
Sorry, non English people may not have understood the phrase, couch potato. It means we spend too much time sitting down, usually watching TV, and not getting out to do exercise like walking. Few British people go out walking for pleasure. The paseo is not part of our culture, nor is going walking at weekends. We are not going to suddenly start because we have heard of the Camino.
It is a great pity but also the reality.
sillydoll said:Oh for heaven's sake - stop playing one-ups!!
The subject became - why are there so few English/Brits/people from the UK walking the camino. The member is saying - it could be because they are no longer a great walking country. Surely we all understood that?[quote)
Hi Sillyd, surely some of us understand that the assertion simply isn't true, and that we disagree. Can we do that? :wink: Can you really can speak for "all" of us?
I must tell you that just one UK Walking Organisation alone has 125,000 members.
I'd like to hear your views if they're on topicI'm wondering why so few UK people walk the Camino - any thoughts on that?
JohnnieWalker said:I tend to think that Nellpilgrim is right and in countries where there is a tradition of pilgrimage it is somehow in the "hardwire" or as Jung might have argued in the collective unconscious. I also don't think that "walking" and "pilgrimage" are interchangeable - for example in the UK would we expect a higher proportion of the Ramblers Association to have walked the Camino compared to the rest of the population? I suspect not.
In other countries such as Korea I think we are seeing the power of the internet and word spreading on message boards etc. The number of "visitors" to this forum for example far exceeds the active membership.
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