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I have a friend from the Camino who has walked it every year since he was 12. He’s now nearing his mid twenties. I met another guy in his twenties who was walking for the first time and had dreamed of doing so since he was 9.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
I would agree. My son has walked twice with me and once on his own. He isn't 'addicted' in the way I am, but totally understands and respects what I get from it.I guess having an open mind, being gentle and showing compassion towards others and yourself is more important. I know lots of twenty year olds having more insight in life than some fifty plussers.
Beneficial? Does a Camino have to be that? I doubt it. Sometimes you just walk for the joy of walking.
I think it will be a good thing for a young person to walk. There are many lessons on the Camino which can make a life-difference. But some mental preparation for the walk would be good, also. Much of that can be found on this very Forum.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
A favorite of mine, stated by Mark Twain::Thanks for the input all,
guess I should have said my son is in his mid 20's .
I agree SabinaP that there are probably not personality types that suit the Camino ,don't think generally you can box people in to "Personality types" suppose I did use the words" personality traits ",was thinking maybe more in terms life experience.
I know its possibly different for everyone I guess I just felt the experience of the camino allowed me to process a lot of the events of my life in a way that made sense
Assuming the son is an adult - let him decide!
Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
‘mostly UK colonies or former colonies’Honestly, I think it is populated with retirees largely as a consequence of foreign — mostly UK colonies or former colonies — pilgrims not having the time (perhaps the money) prior to retirement. There are *plenty* of young Europeans on the camino.
On my first camino I was 47, on sabbatical so I had time and my son was an adult by then, so off I went. I was surrounded mostly by retirees (almost all school teachers who explained that they had never had an unstructured September before in their lives so...) and was content to walk with them, but up until about Puenta La Reina the young people kept trying to get me to stay out with them. I generally appear to be about 10 years younger than I am... so finally I had to say “Sorry kids. I’m old enough and tired enough to be mother to most of you, and don’t want to have to worry about you.”
I saw most of them again in Santiago and they had all appreciated the journey.
I sent a grad student of mine in between her MA and her PhD — in her mid 20’s I guess. And it allowed her time she really needed.
I’ve encouraged several other young people to go.
I don’t think our young people are less able to appreciate it than the Europeans; I just think fewer get the chance.
‘mostly UK colonies or former colonies’
Even if one includes the US in that, I don’t think that’s right. There some good stats on the nationalities on the Frances on here somewhere and I’m fairly certain that Spanish nationals top the list by quite some way.
Despite the best efforts of former generations, the brits haven’t yet colonised Spain - except arguably Gibraltar, and possibly the Costa del Sol by stealth but my Spanish friends find it difficult to square their objection to Gib with their remaining north-African possessions.
The UK doesn’t currently have any colonies.
Also, I think you’ve misunderstood my point — which is that the retirees that populate the camino are not generally the Europeans who populate the camino, many, many of whom are young. I did not mean that this population dominates the camino. One can get the impression that retirees fill it up simply because older people tend to stick together *and* there tends to be a lingua franca therein that is English.‘mostly UK colonies or former colonies’
Even if one includes the US in that, I don’t think that’s right. There some good stats on the nationalities on the Frances on here somewhere and I’m fairly certain that Spanish nationals top the list by quite some way.
Despite the best efforts of former generations, the brits haven’t yet colonised Spain - except arguably Gibraltar, and possibly the Costa del Sol by stealth but my Spanish friends find it difficult to square their objection to Gib with their remaining north-African possessions.
The UK doesn’t currently have any colonies.
Amen!Beneficial? Does a Camino have to be that? I doubt it. Sometimes you just walk for the joy of walking.
I have taken 2 others on the Camino, my husband who is 3 years older then me, and my 13 year old grandson.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
And when it happens earlier in life, it will allow you to process a lot of events that will happen in the future under a new perspectiveI know its possibly different for everyone I guess I just felt the experience of the camino allowed me to process a lot of the events of my life in a way that made sense
Just like at home your son will get tired of the same stories you tell and gradually walk with other young people. At the end of the day hanging out with him and his new friends you will have a new audience for those same old stories. My sons have assigned numbers to my lectures and reminisces so they don't have to listen to them. They are brats but you got to love themHi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
I think it may be just as likely that a young person would "get it" as an older person. I think for many younger people they are just starting or are in the early stages of their careers/life choices. The enthusiasm that they have for this would most likely supersede their possible desire to walk the Camino. I have a feeling there are less younger people who are as aware of the Camino as older people. But of course these are all assumptions.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
The Camino calls out to whomever she chooses regardless of age.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
You don't say what the age of your son is.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
That's me.I have also read a number of people who regretted putting off their first Camino until they were later on in years. All those years they could have been walking Caminos....
And me tooThat's me.
I met people of all ages and abilities on the Camino. I was in my sixties at the time but I was mainly walking with people in their twenties and one nineteen year old. He and I gelled very well and we helped each other. He was the pace maker and I was more confident so it worked well. Early on, there were three young women who really set the pace and I found that helpful. I'm sure that your son will be fine. Friendships are made along the way and mostly everyone is helpful and supportive.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
And probably better if he goes on his own.I'd just wait until he asks you if he can come or goes and does it himself.
Remember better late than never. I am sure the planning, training, happiness and finally the walking and then when you meet those 80 and over, year old pilgrims out on Camino adds years to your life!That's me.
Anto - My daughter walked the full Camino Frances in '12 at the age of 27, and again in '18. She gets it, and so will your son. Ultreia!Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
What is the "it" that we are referring to? Other than my 2nd Camino in 2019 - Porto to Santiago, my Caminos have lasted at least a month. I wonder if those who walk shorter Caminos, or walk in 1-2 week stages each year get the same "it" that I got. I don't think that my "it" is better than others' "it," just different.
Now this could be a whole other thread (and has been, many times - here's one example: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...s-the-spirit-of-the-camino-mean-to-you.68636/).What is the "it" that we are referring to? Other than my 2nd Camino in 2019 - Porto to Santiago, my Caminos have lasted at least a month. I wonder if those who walk shorter Caminos, or walk in 1-2 week stages each year get the same "it" that I got. I don't think that my "it" is better than others' "it," just different.
Exactly. That's why I don't think that we should be concerned about someone getting "it," because "it" comes in many varieties, and often can't be described.Now this could be a whole other thread (and has been, many times - here's one example: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...s-the-spirit-of-the-camino-mean-to-you.68636/).
hear ya, @trecile, but I love the longevity of "it"...always six weeks away for me.
Just a different "it"that such a long journey would not give me a better "it" than anyone else's "it"
I thought the context of this "it" is just a love of the Camino. Some walk the Camino without leaving any degree of impact or long term appreciation. Others walk it and it becomes a passion.Exactly. That's why I don't think that we should be concerned about someone getting "it," because "it" comes in many varieties, and often can't be described.
Me too. I feel different after two weeks on the Camino than I did after one week, and even more so after a month. Should I tell everyone that they must walk for at least a month to get "it"? Obviously not. And someone who has walked for 3 months will get a different "it" than I do.
Vive la différence!
For those of us outside of Europe, it isn't just a case of stamina, it is the Schengen limits than make any continuous walk of over 3 months not doable in a single go. Maybe our European friends can convince their elected representatives to allow for "pilgrim visas", for those of us who want to do the longer pilgrim walks. For me, I suspect that even just doing the Via Francigena in under 90 days might be pushing it. I could possibly do it, but it doesn't leave much cushion at all.In my fantasies I begin from Cashel (where we have family buried on the mount), make my way to Canterbury, walk all the way to Rome, and then hope a train to LePuy and walk to Saint-Jean... where I take a train to Hendaye and walk from Hendaye to the Primitivo and then take that into SdC.
I think it would take half a year and I do not think I will have that kind of stamina when I retire...
For those of us outside of Europe, it isn't just a case of stamina, it is the Schengen limits than make any continuous walk of over 3 months not doable in a single go. Maybe our European friends can convince their elected representatives to allow for "pilgrim visas", for those of us who want to do the longer pilgrim walks. For me, I suspect that even just doing the Via Francigena in under 90 days might be pushing it. I could possibly do it, but it doesn't leave much cushion at all.
Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
Different people need to “get” different things. No one is going to have the same experience even if you do it more than once. I wouldn’t worry about it.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
4 years ago myself and my wife planned to walk a section of the camino. We ended up taking our time on the route to Finnisterre. Our daughters aged 16 & 19 decided to come along and we had so much fun and enjoyment they came with us from Porto the following year. The year after my daughter spent 2 weeks on the Frances with her boyfriend. There is something for every age on the Camino.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
Hi AntoHi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
I walked part of it twice with my 21 year old granddaughter. She loved dit. That is why we went the second time. She fell in love with the Camino on Day One. I have just written a book about our adventures. So much fun! I can't wait to go back. Neither can she.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
This.^. In the US many of us are caught up in the flurry of acquisition and must do’s that we are tendered by advertising. To walk younger shows the lie in that. Even at a later age the lessons are there if you are willing to see. How little all the junk in life matters when all you need is in a back pack and all you have to do is walk and reflect on the space and time this allows you. Just my thoughts..And when it happens earlier in life, it will allow you to process a lot of events that will happen in the future under a new perspective
I walked my first camino at an age closer to your son than to yours. I'm glad I did it quite young - so much unnecessary "life clutter" that I'm not carrying nowadays because I learned a lot of camino lessons. I hope there are still many more opportunities for me to keep learning, no matter at what age
Just do it. My son is now 36 and I’ve walked 2 Caminos with him. On the second one he jumped on board uninvited. If you get on well with your son, this will probably strengthen your bond. Plus you can both deliver ‘ home truths ‘ without too much offence.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
Southern OregonAssuming the son is an adult - let him decide!
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Then what?
I hope to walk with my grandson and daughter when they turn 12. Will they get "it"? I think they will get "it" for them. I hope the journey together will have its own reward as well. I remind myself that we are all different and what speaks to us on our camino is uniquely our and potentially totally different from some others while resonating well with some. I guess that is why we speak of "my" Camino and ask how "your" Camino is going rather than "the" Camino.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
I always walk alone, but I have met many young people on the Camino and walked sections or days with them. A couple of years ago I met a young woman from Germany who had hitchhiked all the way from her home to Irun to start the Norte. She says she mostly got rides with long distant truckers. I met many amazing young people who "get it" and I've met older people who don't. I don't think it has much to do with age, but with introspection and sense of adventure.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
I walked CF in 2016 (my 2nd) with my son (his first) just after he left the military. I "knew" then that he likely wouldn't "get it" like I did at 50. However, I firmly believed that it would plant a seed of knowledge/understanding that would grow and bloom when the time is appropriate for him and his life circumstances.Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
Hi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
HiHi
Just wondering if anyone has experience of the following.
My wife and I have walked the CF in stages since 2017 and personally I have found it a profound experience.
I have spoken to my oldest son about it and suggested that he should try it sometime as I believe he has the personality traits that would "get it".
My question is this as I am 57 I wonder if I would have "got it" as a younger man or does a level of life experience allow the type of perception that most people who do the camino talk about.
I just observe that most contributers to the forum are retired or nearly retired and have a perspective that I mostly understand.
Suppose my concern is that if a young man(or woman)goes and doesn't get it will it put him off going at a later time in their life when it may be more beneficial.
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