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Hornillos del Camino has other albergues besides the municipal. There are also two private ones that are nice, and a pensiones as well. I certainly wouldn't avoid staying in the town based on the bad reputation of one albergue there.
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The only place I've consistently warned people to avoid is the albergue at Hornillos - the one at the church with the chicken on the post.
It has been filthy and full of bedbugs each and every time I've stopped there (and I've moved on every time).
Unless it has drastically changed in the past year, I will continue to avoid it.
I just walk on to San Bol - a lovely place.
Starting our first Camino in June 2015 with our kids (17, 16, and 8) - would like to avoid filthy/not well taken care off places... would like advice of places to avoid. We are doing the Camino Frances starting at SJPP. Thank you!
Not my experience at all, Annie, so perhaps change has happened! I had a wonderful night in the Hornillos municipal this last March. It was clean as a whistle, and not a bedbug in sight.he only place I've consistently warned people to avoid is the albergue at Hornillos - the one at the church with the chicken on the post.
It has been filthy and full of bedbugs each and every time I've stopped there (and I've moved on every time).
Unless it has drastically changed in the past year, I will continue to avoid it.
Not my experience at all, Annie, so perhaps change has happened! I had a wonderful night in the Hornillos municipal this last March. It was clean as a whistle, and not a bedbug in sight.
To reserve, you would have to stay in private rather than municipal accommodations. It will not interfere with your Camino to make them as you walk. Booking.com is helpful as is asking the clerk where you stay to call ahead for you. I would suggest that you book for a night in SJPP and in Orisson (if interested in that route and stop). before you leave home tho.Thank you so much this is really great! I am a bit nervous traveling with the kids and hubby (party of 5) and thinking if I need to make reservations or not? Can I do them from the states or do I have to make then in Spain? If I do then during el Camino won't it interfere with it?
One of three detested places that I endured on my Camino is a favorite of most people. Yes, MOST. It just didn't work for me.
- would like to avoid filthy/not well taken care off places... would like advice of places to avoid.
Starting our first Camino in June 2015 with our kids (17, 16, and 8) - would like to avoid filthy/not well taken care off places... would like advice of places to avoid. We are doing the Camino Frances starting at SJPP. Thank you!
Try as I may, I cannot say which albergues to avoid... We only stay ONE night, even having one bad experience on that night doesn't mean anything, the hospitalero/a may just be exhausted/having a bad day!
I have been there three times, and it is among my favorites.Albergue La Hutte
It always amuses me when a rude person's behaviour is excused by them 'having a bad day." I don't care how bad a person's day is, as an owner of an albergue they have an example to uphold and should really have a better temperament. It's not normal to scream at a pilgrim over their washing. All she had to do was politely get the point across another way.
What an interesting concept. Where does this obligation to provide an example come from?I don't care how bad a person's day is, as an owner of an albergue they have an example to uphold and should really have a better temperament.
I have been there three times, and it is among my favorites.
It was up for sale recently.
I totally agree Doug, it is so easy for one person to trash some place on this site and destroy a hard working business with negative comments. (There sound be a DO NOT LIKE button somewhere to respond to these scurrilous comments.)What an interesting concept. Where does this obligation to provide an example come from?
You are running a business, and someone drapes their wet laundry all over your furniture and fittings. How is that reasonable behaviour? Two wrongs might not make a right here, but I am not sure I wouldn't be seeing it the albergue owner's way if they had equal say about what might have happened.
Which is part of the problem with a thread like this, and that is that there is little opportunity for those running an albergue that is criticised here to respond. It is intrinsically unfair not to have both points of view on the table when some of the harsh criticism already meted out is raised.
Annie, them people in San Bol sliding some euros under the proverbial table to ya for scaring pilgrims out of Hornillos and promoting their place?
Not even on my weakest days!! It is WORK. Can you imagine being nice to demanding pilgrims every day? If you can't, hospitalero work is the wrong work. I would rather teach music to third graders.Are you thinking about it Falcon?
On my first Camino I played hospitalero for about two hours while the young lady who volunteered there went to have lunch and a siesta. It was interesting and I got to stamp a few credentials, but I was glad when she came back. I didn't like it when pilgrims crowd around the desk. I mean, c'mon. Get in a queue and one at a time. We all learned to that since elementary school.Not even on my weakest days!! It is WORK. Can you imagine being nice to demanding pilgrims every day? If you can't, hospitalero work is the wrong work. I would rather teach music to third graders.
What an interesting concept. Where does this obligation to provide an example come from?
You are running a business, and someone drapes their wet laundry all over your furniture and fittings. How is that reasonable behaviour? Two wrongs might not make a right here, but I am not sure I wouldn't be seeing it the albergue owner's way if they had equal say about what might have happened.
Which is part of the problem with a thread like this, and that is that there is little opportunity for those running an albergue that is criticised here to respond. It is intrinsically unfair not to have both points of view on the table when some of the harsh criticism already meted out is raised.
I totally agree Doug, it is so easy for one person to trash some place on this site and destroy a hard working business with negative comments. (There sound be a DO NOT LIKE button somewhere to respond to these scurrilous comments
Where did you stayed in San Justo de la Vega?I've stayed in some 'not so good' places that made me really appreciate the better ones that thankfully always followed. A bad night here and there is no big deal.
My only regret was stopping in San Justo rather than walking the extra few kms to Astorga. We were very tired after walking from Villar de Mazarife and it seemed like a good idea to stop walking. It wasn't! There were very few pilgrims and it didn't feel as though we were still on the Camino. However, we set off very early the next morning and stopped for a great breakfast in Murias. This, followed by a stop at the Cowboy Bar and a great evening in Rabanal made it all OK. But I would still never stay in San Justo again!
Restraint is always admirable. I hope there were no vibrations of hostility escaping.I restrained my impulse to deliberately rip her throat from her neck and learned afterwards that apparently she was an owner of the Hotel/Albergue La Hutte.
If that happened, I don't defend it. However, keep in mind that there is a different business model in Spain than the U.S. or Australia. Generally, a business is not run for the customers. It is run for the owners. Their attitude is "if you don't like it, leave." It is their life and their work, and it is what they offer. It is bizarro Burger King -- "Have it my way." The customer is not king, and he is not presumed to be right. It is an attitude that grates Americans, especially, but the Spanish business operators honestly don't care. They are proud of their businesses, and probably don't see that they sometimes drive customers away. If the wet clothes were not supposed to be hanging on the chairs, Ms. La Hutte (Ayala, actually) probably felt very justified in her actions. Her rules count, not a pilgrim's. For six Euros, she probably does not care if a particular pilgrim stays or not.I don't get the screaming issue at all.
I would rather have both sides of this story before passing judgement.If you are in the hospitality industry, be it an albergue or a hotel, you should have an obligation to keep your temper in check. I can totally understand it would be annoying if a pilgrim did this (if this is how it happened, of course) and running an albergue would be a far from easy job, but I don't get the screaming issue at all. Like I said, there are better ways of getting your point across. I saw plenty of good examples of this on my recent Camino....and it wasn't only wet washing that was the problem.
Where did you stayed in San Justo de la Vega?
Thanks.
Yes, I remember the place because I was watching Football World Championship final match there last year in very funny/odd company:I'm not sure @KinkyOne. It was a small hostal (rooms above a bar) on the left hand side of the main road. There was nothing wrong with it - I think we just didn't like the location. I'm looking forward to staying in Astorga next time.
Yes, I remember the place because I was watching Football World Championship final match there last year in very funny/odd company:
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...all-from-a-soon-to-be-first-time-walker.2909/ (posts #15-17)
I've stayes in San Javier in Astorga in 2011 and it was lovely experience that I can only recommend.
Oh, sorry, that's the right one:I couldn't find that post @KinkyOne but I noticed your one about a Renault 4 (very off topic!). My dad had one and I have great memories of family holidays in that car. 4 kids in the back seat and we still found room for hitch hikers! I saw a beautifully preserved R4 in Molinaseca last year and sent Dad a photo for old times sake.
Here, here! Have to admit to a guilty start at the image of "a demented raging out of control woman screaming" in context which brought back memories of losing it with sons and their muddy football gear. How frustrating for the poor lady that her heartfelt tirade was completely lost on the offender.Realizing most of the rooms are part of a private family residence, respect the space like you would staying with family members during a holiday. Help by cleaning up the mess in the showers, even if it isn't yours, hang your clothes on a line outdoors and if no line is available bring one with you, etc, etc, .......my rant is done!
Oh, sorry, that's the right one:
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...k-from-sahagun-to-ponferrada-july-2014.29092/
Yes, I remember the place because I was watching Football World Championship final match there last year in very funny/odd company:
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...all-from-a-soon-to-be-first-time-walker.2909/ (posts #15-17)
I've stayes in San Javier in Astorga in 2011 and it was lovely experience that I can only recommend.
I would rather have both sides of this story before passing judgement.
Starting our first Camino in June 2015 with our kids (17, 16, and 8) - would like to avoid filthy/not well taken care off places... would like advice of places to avoid. We are doing the Camino Frances starting at SJPP. Thank you!
Starting our first Camino in June 2015 with our kids (17, 16, and 8) - would like to avoid filthy/not well taken care off places... would like advice of places to avoid. We are doing the Camino Frances starting at SJPP. Thank you!
When I stayed there, it was newly remodeled, and the priest hospitalero was among the best. It probably depends who is volunteering.the 'free' albergue at Foncebedon
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch nor a 'free' Albergue. Maybe a generous donativo would have helped the parish to buy a few cleaning products...The worst one we stayed at was the 'free' albergue at Foncebedon. I've read several books about the Camino, and they also mentioned how bad that one is. Dirty and cramped.
That's why it is so unfair to condemn places, especially based on a one shot experience. It can depend upon who is volunteering and it can also depend upon the mood of the pilgrim that day.When I stayed there, it was newly remodeled, and the priest hospitalero was among the best. It probably depends who is volunteering.
No-one should be scared of voicing an opinion - are you a bit sensitive dear. Constructive criticism can only advance a discussion, even if others disagree, and it's a fact of life that someone always will. Does that mean we should prefer to do nothing just in case?That happened to me too. When I commented that I had had a negative experience at one particular place, I was immediately shot down, and soundly told off, for daring to say such a thing. So, sadly, I cannot now suggest places that I would avoid, in case I upset people again.
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