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That's because any of those solutions can work well or work badly - depending on the weather, choice of albergue, and personal sleeping preference.seems to be such conflicting advice
Thanks, good to know.I would say liner and quilt. I have read here than most Albergues have stopped giving any bedding as a Covid precaution.
Thanks, think we are cold sleepers too. Hadn't considered the sending forward if we get it wrong option, that takes a little pressure off.Hi, @Brian B 62,
Welcome to the forum!
I think you are confused about this issue because there is no single answer, it is totally dependent on your own sensitivity to or tolerance of temperature. I really think it’s silly to follow anyone else’s recommendation on this question. Not that we give bad information, it’s just that it’s way too idiosyncratic to be of any use in this situation. Here’s what I have written several times on past threads.
I think the "should I take a sleeping bag" question is the same as the "what are the best hiking boots" or "which backpack should I use" questions. This is a question that no one else can answer for you because it depends exclusively on your own body. I don't doubt that all of the posters have accurately reported on what feels good for them in those conditions, but they have their own unique internal heating and cooling systems. I always take a lightweight sleeping bag (850 grams), even last year arriving in Santiago in late July. But then I'm what the Spanish call "friolera", someone who gets cold easily. Only you know if that describes you too. If you're the one who always pulls out a sweater to warm up in summer air conditioning, or who needs extra layers when sitting around in the winter, then you will probably be very happy with the decision to carry a sleeping bag. If you sweat a lot and run around the house in shirt sleeves in winter, then you are likely to be fine with something much less.
And the good thing is that if you make the wrong decision, you will be fine. You can easily ship your bag ahead if you’re not using it, or buy a sleeping bag if you need one. Lots of options all across the camino.
Thanks, liner and quilt is currently my favourite option.That's because any of those solutions can work well or work badly - depending on the weather, choice of albergue, and personal sleeping preference.
I'd suggest liner plus quilt, supplemented if necessary by layers of clothing.
Yes, you can send it to Ivar!Thanks, think we are cold sleepers too. Hadn't considered the sending forward if we get it wrong option, that takes a little pressure off.
Thanks, never thought about having it inside the liner, good idea as I was worried about the quilt just sliding off in the night!I'm team liner and down blanket. I use a tiny down blanket that's just big enough to cover me from shoulders to toes which I tuck inside my silk sleep sack.
I have this one
A larger size is also availableDown Blanket M
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That's exactly why I decided to put it inside!Thanks, never thought about having it inside the liner, good idea as I was worried about the quilt just sliding off in the night!
I second C clearly's suggestion.That's because any of those solutions can work well or work badly - depending on the weather, choice of albergue, and personal sleeping preference.
I'd suggest liner plus quilt, supplemented if necessary by layers of clothing.
Many thanks+1 for liner + quilt. I have been on the CF during September, October, and November. I am a cold sleeper, and it can get cool to cold late season. I put the quilt in the liner so that it does not end up on the floor in the middle of the night. My quilt is an EE Revelation 40 it is superlight and the material is slick. If it is too hot, I just push the quilt to one side inside the liner. If it is too cold, I put the quilt over me. Sometimes, it is just right.
I also think putting your quilt may help deter someone from borrowing it when you are not around.
PS: I also have some quilts made by hammockgear.
Thank you, I've had a look and definitely a contender.I see you are in the UK. If you are considering liner and quilt you might like to look at the Alpkit Cloud Cover I certainly found it worked well on my Camino in September/October 2019. It's light, packs small and is very versatile.
Buen Camino
I see you are in the UK. If you are considering liner and quilt you might like to look at the Alpkit Cloud Cover I certainly found it worked well on my Camino in September/October 2019. It's light, packs small and is very versatile.
Buen Camino
Hi, we are planning a first time walk from SJPdP to Santiago starting early September this year. Mostly staying in Alburgues we hope. We've done a lot of research online and are pretty happy with most items to pack - except for sleeping... liner only, liner and down quilt, or lightweight down sleeping bag? Needs to be light as we aim to meet the 10% rule, but seems to be such conflicting advice online, perhaps because it changes by season? What would you recommend for this time of year? Thanks!
Lightweight down sleeping bag - hands down - covers all bases. Buen Camino.Hi, we are planning a first time walk from SJPdP to Santiago starting early September this year. Mostly staying in Alburgues we hope. We've done a lot of research online and are pretty happy with most items to pack - except for sleeping... liner only, liner and down quilt, or lightweight down sleeping bag? Needs to be light as we aim to meet the 10% rule, but seems to be such conflicting advice online, perhaps because it changes by season? What would you recommend for this time of year? Thanks!
You can get a lightweight quilt online from Amazon for under $50 and easily add the snaps (buy snap tape). I am now also a quilt and silk liner user . I wear more of my clothes if cold and I walk in “Iberian winter” months (Thanks, never thought about having it inside the liner, good idea as I was worried about the quilt just sliding off in the night!
This is true, but only if you are not allergic to down. I am severely allergic to down, and only found out about it over years of back-country camping, as the allergy worsened. I still talke down bags to the mountains, for the warmth and light weight that they provide, but over the course of a week to ten days I keep on upping my dosage of antihistamines. This would not be a practical thing to do on a long camino walk. Sleep in whatever you are taking before leaving, until you are confident that it works for you. And keep in mind that albergues may not always be heated, so a light sleeping system may need to be supplemented by wearing warm clothing to bed.Lightweight down sleeping bag - hands down - covers all bases. Buen Camino.
This time I am taking a silk sleeping bag liner with a light throw that I cut to fit just the top of the liner and will use eight safety pins to keep it from sliding off. It weighs 1 lb. less than my sleeping bag. If anyone thinks or knows this is a bad idea, please advise. Thanks!
I think that would act like a vapor barrier, and you would end up soaked from perspiration.Could you use a mylar emergency blanket inside your liner?
I totally understand your dilemma as we are first timers too. We had to use our best guess in relation to how we like to sleep and different regions vs average temps. We've been on camino almost 3 weeks now. We decided on a liner and a very lightweight sleeping bag in a compression bag as well as a travel pillow. We have not been disappointed by our choice. There have been some albergues the required a sleeping bag on the mattress. Some places we've been incredibly cold at night and used both liner and bag especially in the higher altitudes. Other places we've just about melted and slept on top of our liners. The liners we chose are by Craghoopers and are fantastic for repelling biting bugs at night. We tested them at home for a few weeks and they are great. The sleeping bag has been a nice padding on some really hard mattresses. If you choose a down quilt, try to find a compression bag to reduce bulk. We are in summer weather now and it's all over the place. The best advise is to have lightweight layers and build up with those. I found it very uncomfortable to sleep in my hiking pants (noise from fabric and not too stretchy). Whatever you think could work, try it at home for a week or more and see how it works for you. Best of luck and buen camino!Hi, we are planning a first time walk from SJPdP to Santiago starting early September this year. Mostly staying in Alburgues we hope. We've done a lot of research online and are pretty happy with most items to pack - except for sleeping... liner only, liner and down quilt, or lightweight down sleeping bag? Needs to be light as we aim to meet the 10% rule, but seems to be such conflicting advice online, perhaps because it changes by season? What would you recommend for this time of year? Thanks!
I walked September/ October and took a sleeping bag. A liner would have been enough for most of the time. September was hot - it got a bit cooler once I reached Galicia. Most albergues had blankets but doubt that is the case now. If I walk again, I would still take a light sleeping bag.Hi, we are planning a first time walk from SJPdP to Santiago starting early September this year. Mostly staying in Alburgues we hope. We've done a lot of research online and are pretty happy with most items to pack - except for sleeping... liner only, liner and down quilt, or lightweight down sleeping bag? Needs to be light as we aim to meet the 10% rule, but seems to be such conflicting advice online, perhaps because it changes by season? What would you recommend for this time of year? Thanks!
Such good advice! I tend to be chilly so have a thin sleeping bag, and a light blanket, and slept in clothes too once or twice.Hi, @Brian B 62,
Welcome to the forum!
I think you are confused about this issue because there is no single answer, it is totally dependent on your own sensitivity to or tolerance of temperature. I really think it’s silly to follow anyone else’s recommendation on this question. Not that we give bad information, it’s just that it’s way too idiosyncratic to be of any use in this situation. Here’s what I have written several times on past threads.
I think the "should I take a sleeping bag" question is the same as the "what are the best hiking boots" or "which backpack should I use" questions. This is a question that no one else can answer for you because it depends exclusively on your own body. I don't doubt that all of the posters have accurately reported on what feels good for them in those conditions, but they have their own unique internal heating and cooling systems. I always take a lightweight sleeping bag (850 grams), even last year arriving in Santiago in late July. But then I'm what the Spanish call "friolera", someone who gets cold easily. Only you know if that describes you too. If you're the one who always pulls out a sweater to warm up in summer air conditioning, or who needs extra layers when sitting around in the winter, then you will probably be very happy with the decision to carry a sleeping bag. If you sweat a lot and run around the house in shirt sleeves in winter, then you are likely to be fine with something much less.
And the good thing is that if you make the wrong decision, you will be fine. You can easily ship your bag ahead if you’re not using it, or buy a sleeping bag if you need one. Lots of options all across the camino.
I have been on the Camino in April, May, June, July, September and October and have always managed with just a liner. I do not generally feel the cold though.Hi, we are planning a first time walk from SJPdP to Santiago starting early September this year. Mostly staying in Alburgues we hope. We've done a lot of research online and are pretty happy with most items to pack - except for sleeping... liner only, liner and down quilt, or lightweight down sleeping bag? Needs to be light as we aim to meet the 10% rule, but seems to be such conflicting advice online, perhaps because it changes by season? What would you recommend for this time of year? Thanks!
Could you use a mylar emergency blanket inside your liner?
Yes, for the sake of your fellow peregrinos, skip the mylar blanket!Plus the crinkly noise with every movement.
I just finished the Norte and I used my liner only one time. There were numerous days along the coast the temps were cool. Lower 60s f or 17c. My friend brought his Nemo disco sleeping bag, and said he wouldn't bring it if he had to do it again. I had a light weight very thin quilted blanket that I used that was enough for me but I get warm easy.That's because any of those solutions can work well or work badly - depending on the weather, choice of albergue, and personal sleeping preference.
I'd suggest liner plus quilt, supplemented if necessary by layers of clothing.
Hi, we are planning a first time walk from SJPdP to Santiago starting early September this year. Mostly staying in Alburgues we hope. We've done a lot of research online and are pretty happy with most items to pack - except for sleeping... liner only, liner and down quilt, or lightweight down sleeping bag? Needs to be light as we aim to meet the 10% rule, but seems to be such conflicting advice online, perhaps because it changes by season? What would you recommend for this time of year? Thanks!
Hi Brian. I am also planning my Camino ( starting 8 September), and going through the same ( and other!) dilemmas. I yesterday bought myself a light, small packed sleeping bag. I also have a silk liner. My thought is that if in the Pyrenees it’s not warm enough then I will wear more clothes. After that I’m hoping the issue won’t be a problem as the temperature should be better. Will watch out for your posts as interested to see how your planning shapes upHi, we are planning a first time walk from SJPdP to Santiago starting early September this year. Mostly staying in Alburgues we hope. We've done a lot of research online and are pretty happy with most items to pack - except for sleeping... liner only, liner and down quilt, or lightweight down sleeping bag? Needs to be light as we aim to meet the 10% rule, but seems to be such conflicting advice online, perhaps because it changes by season? What would you recommend for this time of year? Thanks!
Hi there, we've gone down the silk liner and down quilt route, all from Amazon, so fingers crossed. Pretty much all ready to go now. We fly out to Biarritz from Stansted on the 7th, start walking on the 8th with a first night in the New hostel near Orisson to break up the Day 1 Pyrenees assault. We're planning to take a cab from the airport to SJPdP on the 7th in case you are on the same flight and fancy sharing?Hi Brian. I am also planning my Camino ( starting 8 September), and going through the same ( and other!) dilemmas. I yesterday bought myself a light, small packed sleeping bag. I also have a silk liner. My thought is that if in the Pyrenees it’s not warm enough then I will wear more clothes. After that I’m hoping the issue won’t be a problem as the temperature should be better. Will watch out for your posts as interested to see how your planning shapes up
Brian, you may not already know about Express Bouricott shuttle van that runs between BIQ and SJPdP. They take reservations which takes care of you trying to find someone to share a ride with. I have used them several times, and they provide excellent service.Hi there, we've gone down the silk liner and down quilt route, all from Amazon, so fingers crossed. Pretty much all ready to go now. We fly out to Biarritz from Stansted on the 7th, start walking on the 8th with a first night in the New hostel near Orisson to break up the Day 1 Pyrenees assault. We're planning to take a cab from the airport to SJPdP on the 7th in case you are on the same flight and fancy sharing?
Cheers, Brian
Thanks for the tipBrian, you may not already know about Express Bouricott shuttle van that runs between BIQ and SJPdP. They take reservations which takes care of you trying to find someone to share a ride with. I have used them several times, and they provide excellent service.
Hi Brian. I am on the same flight! Would be absolutely brilliant for me if I could share a cab with you. I didn't want to spend that much just for myself, but split 3 ways would be great if you don't mind sharing with me. I was worried about missing the last train and not getting to SJPP that evening. That solution would be then so much better, so if you are ok with it then yes please to sharing. We should try and identify each other before departure in Stansted.Hi there, we've gone down the silk liner and down quilt route, all from Amazon, so fingers crossed. Pretty much all ready to go now. We fly out to Biarritz from Stansted on the 7th, start walking on the 8th with a first night in the New hostel near Orisson to break up the Day 1 Pyrenees assault. We're planning to take a cab from the airport to SJPdP on the 7th in case you are on the same flight and fancy sharing?
Cheers, Brian
I'm going for the full distance on first day (8th) up to Roncesvalles. Must admit i'm a little nervous about it, as its a big hard day for a first day, but I think I can do it, and the way my itinerary is working i need to get this day done.
Already discussed aboveAlso think about bed bugs
I read that down was not a good option if you found you had bed bugs and needed to wash/dry everything with high heat. Any thoughts on this? I'm thinking if you have not spent a fortune on down it would not be so bad if it was ruined?
@bonniegrace getting rid of bedbugs requires heat, not water. So on the times I've had to deal with them I put everything, dry, into a commercial dryer in a laundromat, for 20 minutes on high heat. The down is unaffected, and it does not seem to have damaged merino either.
Excellent, chat later. And yes, plan is to go on to Santiago if we can. No hurry though. Cheers, BrianHi Brian. I am on the same flight! Would be absolutely brilliant for me if I could share a cab with you. I didn't want to spend that much just for myself, but split 3 ways would be great if you don't mind sharing with me. I was worried about missing the last train and not getting to SJPP that evening. That solution would be then so much better, so if you are ok with it then yes please to sharing. We should try and identify each other before departure in Stansted.
I'm going for the full distance on first day (8th) up to Roncesvalles. Must admit i'm a little nervous about it, as its a big hard day for a first day, but I think I can do it, and the way my itinerary is working i need to get this day done. Look forward to comparing notes when I meet you both. Will confirm closer to the time. There's loads more I could ask/share but will spread it out!
Are you going through to Santiago??
Sounds good thanks BrianExcellent, chat later. And yes, plan is to go on to Santiago if we can. No hurry though. Cheers, Brian
I would opt for the lightest option possible. Since you are going in September, I would forego the liner. I brought a liner in 2018 and I did not use it - even on cold days. Sleeping systems are personal so beware about other people's advice. If you are a cold sleeper then by all means a down filled bag and maybe a liner. If you are a warm sleeper then I recommend a cheap light synthethic bag or maybe only a liner. If you like to move around alot when you sleep then a wide bag is recommended.Hi, we are planning a first time walk from SJPdP to Santiago starting early September this year. Mostly staying in Alburgues we hope. We've done a lot of research online and are pretty happy with most items to pack - except for sleeping... liner only, liner and down quilt, or lightweight down sleeping bag? Needs to be light as we aim to meet the 10% rule, but seems to be such conflicting advice online, perhaps because it changes by season? What would you recommend for this time of year? Thanks!
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