BonitaHolland
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I'm so sorry you're in pain, and I know it must be frustrating after such a strong start. I was tempted to say "hold your feet up to the screen and I'll tell you what's wrong"...it's of course hard to say without looking at you, and I'm not sure where the pain is exactly...but of course you can google plantar fasciitis for some self diagnosis.i started on Sep 3rd in SJDPP and have just passed through Fromista.... I'm carrying my own lack (8kg) but I'm getting slower each day and walking shorter distances-from happily doing 20/25 km I'm now walking just 10-15km a day and most of that I'm in pain. I begin the day fine but after 2 hours my feet start throbbing it feels like bad toothache across the base of both feet- so I stop for an hour remove boots and socks and it stops - I then walk another hour the pain begins again so I stop and change to sandals this allows me another hour- but I arrive at accommodation in severe pain. After two hours rest the pain goes....I'm no longer enjoying the days, as I know the pain will come. At the moment I'm considering either 2/5 days rest in Leon or going home and completing another time. I don't want to do permanant damage to my feet... is this Plantar Facilitis perhaps?
i started on Sep 3rd in SJDPP and have just passed through Fromista.... I'm carrying my own lack (8kg) but I'm getting slower each day and walking shorter distances-from happily doing 20/25 km I'm now walking just 10-15km a day and most of that I'm in pain. I begin the day fine but after 2 hours my feet start throbbing it feels like bad toothache across the base of both feet- so I stop for an hour remove boots and socks and it stops - I then walk another hour the pain begins again so I stop and change to sandals this allows me another hour- but I arrive at accommodation in severe pain. After two hours rest the pain goes....I'm no longer enjoying the days, as I know the pain will come. At the moment I'm considering either 2/5 days rest in Leon or going home and completing another time. I don't want to do permanant damage to my feet... is this Plantar Facilitis perhaps?
I'm so sorry you're in pain, and I know it must be frustrating after such a strong start. I was tempted to say "hold your feet up to the screen and I'll tell you what's wrong"...it's of course hard to say without looking at you, and I'm not sure where the pain is exactly...but of course you can google plantar fasciitis for some self diagnosis.
Pain in your feet (without knowing the exact location and not seeing your foot) could be many things, but there are a lot of causes shared between the diagnoses. First, rest. Pain is not fear leaving the body, it's damage being done. Next, lighten the load on your feet--rest, elevation, consider sending that pack ahead once/if you resume walking. See if you can lighten the pack, especially if you are going to keep carrying it. Consider, do you want to carry the pack every step, or eventually make it to SdC. For ice, if there is a freezer where you are staying, try freezing a bottle of water and rolling it under your foot.
Think back to what you were doing before this started...did you change your walking routine or footwear? and about those sandals...do they have good arch support...if not, they may feel good momentarily then just aggravate things.
Leon is a beautiful city to take a few rest days. See some sights but don't overdo the walking and standing...remember you are resting your feet. It is also a good place to see a pharmacist or doctor, who may be able to prescribe a wrap or support, or run more tests to see what is causing the problem.
I'm wishing you a speedy recovery and Buen Camino
That is so beautiful! Thank you for sharingThank you, I'm in great surprise at the moment as late last night my husband turned up in the village I'm staying in- he'd decided 24 hours ago that my plaintive texts were too much and he's taken 4 days emergency leave to come and support me! He took 12 hours and 9 different transports to get here including a train to Fromista and then walking to the next village- I was shocked but relieved when he walked into dinner! The Hotel owner was in on the BIG secret and all 6 pilgrims at our evening meal witnessed the biggest hug on the Camino ever...
i started on Sep 3rd in SJDPP and have just passed through Fromista.... I'm carrying my own lack (8kg) but I'm getting slower each day and walking shorter distances-from happily doing 20/25 km I'm now walking just 10-15km a day and most of that I'm in pain. I begin the day fine but after 2 hours my feet start throbbing it feels like bad toothache across the base of both feet- so I stop for an hour remove boots and socks and it stops - I then walk another hour the pain begins again so I stop and change to sandals this allows me another hour- but I arrive at accommodation in severe pain. After two hours rest the pain goes....I'm no longer enjoying the days, as I know the pain will come. At the moment I'm considering either 2/5 days rest in Leon or going home and completing another time. I don't want to do permanant damage to my feet... is this Plantar Facilitis perhaps?
I am trying to figure out what a poor man relates to this thread?Cen fa ar bfhuil tu an fear bocht???
Hi Bonita,i started on Sep 3rd in SJDPP and have just passed through Fromista.... I'm carrying my own lack (8kg) but I'm getting slower each day and walking shorter distances-from happily doing 20/25 km I'm now walking just 10-15km a day and most of that I'm in pain. I begin the day fine but after 2 hours my feet start throbbing it feels like bad toothache across the base of both feet- so I stop for an hour remove boots and socks and it stops - I then walk another hour the pain begins again so I stop and change to sandals this allows me another hour- but I arrive at accommodation in severe pain. After two hours rest the pain goes....I'm no longer enjoying the days, as I know the pain will come. At the moment I'm considering either 2/5 days rest in Leon or going home and completing another time. I don't want to do permanant damage to my feet... is this Plantar Facilitis perhaps?
I was so happy to see your husband had surprised you and was about to comment, when I scrolled down and saw your later post. What a difficult time you have had. I am so sorry you fell, especially after so many days of foot pain. I hope you will be pain free soon. Take care, BonitaHolland.So I've arrived in Villalcezar de Sirga and as it's the village where miracles happen in the church I'm going to Mass later! Today I walked for two hours before it started hurting.... just now after a two hour lunch I went to the Hostel (private room) and fur the first time on the trip fell over landing on both knees and getting a fat lip.... in that moment I decided.... I'm going home. Tomorrow I'll walk to Carrion de los Condes and will share a a taxi with a woman I met today and go to Ledigos (hubby will walk the 30 km. He is scheduled to leave the Camino from Sahagun to go home. My plan is now to Bus the three stages to Leon whilst my young friend who I'm walking with walks in between.
You are a great resource for this site, so hopefully we will hear when your ready to return.So I've arrived in Villalcezar de Sirga and as it's the village where miracles happen in the church I'm going to Mass later! Today I walked for two hours before it started hurting.... just now after a two hour lunch I went to the Hostel (private room) and fur the first time on the trip fell over landing on both knees and getting a fat lip.... in that moment I decided.... I'm going home. Tomorrow I'll walk to Carrion de los Condes and will share a a taxi with a woman I met today and go to Ledigos (hubby will walk the 30 km. He is scheduled to leave the Camino from Sahagun to go home. My plan is now to Bus the three stages to Leon whilst my young friend who I'm walking with walks in between.
Well Bonita,So I've arrived in Villalcezar de Sirga and as it's the village where miracles happen in the church I'm going to Mass later! Today I walked for two hours before it started hurting.... just now after a two hour lunch I went to the Hostel (private room) and fur the first time on the trip fell over landing on both knees and getting a fat lip.... in that moment I decided.... I'm going home. Tomorrow I'll walk to Carrion de los Condes and will share a a taxi with a woman I met today and go to Ledigos (hubby will walk the 30 km. He is scheduled to leave the Camino from Sahagun to go home. My plan is now to Bus the three stages to Leon whilst my young friend who I'm walking with walks in between.
I visited a podiatrist before going on my Camino earlier this year. I had orthotics made 6 months before leaving. Months of training had been a shock to the system. I have weak arches, my feet are 'flat'. I had steadily healing plantar fasciitis in one foot before I left and now have a less serious case in both feet because the full Camino Frances is such an extreme undertaking. I pity anyone who develops full-blown PF while on the Camino, it's agonising. Luckily for me I could stop walking for a month and heal, I was only training. I resumed training with the orthotics. I am now looking into (and practising) Iyengar yoga which includes a few very strenuous foot exercises which are strengthening my arches. The podiatrist and a physiotherapist had given me exercises which are not nearly as detailed or as strength-building as my yoga exercises. Live and learn.I had terrible foot pain on my first and second Camino. I kept looking at others and did not understand how they could walk so well. After getting back home I consulted and found out I have flat feet! Not something the GP checks for.
Before embarking on a Camino, do yourselves favour and visit a podiatrist. They can diagnose, treat, recommend exercises, help you pick you shoes and make orthotics so you can walk pain free.
Took me two Caminos to figure it out. It's no fun at all to be in pain with every footstep.
i started on Sep 3rd in SJDPP and have just passed through Fromista.... I'm carrying my own lack (8kg) but I'm getting slower each day and walking shorter distances-from happily doing 20/25 km I'm now walking just 10-15km a day and most of that I'm in pain. I begin the day fine but after 2 hours my feet start throbbing it feels like bad toothache across the base of both feet- so I stop for an hour remove boots and socks and it stops - I then walk another hour the pain begins again so I stop and change to sandals this allows me another hour- but I arrive at accommodation in severe pain. After two hours rest the pain goes....I'm no longer enjoying the days, as I know the pain will come. At the moment I'm considering either 2/5 days rest in Leon or going home and completing another time. I don't want to do permanant damage to my feet... is this Plantar Facilitis perhaps?
Are you shoes cushioned? I have the same problem when I'm on my feet too long. I need good arch support with cushioned insoles. I walking on Brooks Ghost running shoes. They are the most comfortable shoes I have ever worn . I can walk all day without much pain at all. But, after I take them off and rest for awhile, my feet will really hurt when I walk again. The next day they are good to go again.i started on Sep 3rd in SJDPP and have just passed through Fromista.... I'm carrying my own lack (8kg) but I'm getting slower each day and walking shorter distances-from happily doing 20/25 km I'm now walking just 10-15km a day and most of that I'm in pain. I begin the day fine but after 2 hours my feet start throbbing it feels like bad toothache across the base of both feet- so I stop for an hour remove boots and socks and it stops - I then walk another hour the pain begins again so I stop and change to sandals this allows me another hour- but I arrive at accommodation in severe pain. After two hours rest the pain goes....I'm no longer enjoying the days, as I know the pain will come. At the moment I'm considering either 2/5 days rest in Leon or going home and completing another time. I don't want to do permanant damage to my feet... is this Plantar Facilitis perhaps?
Very true. Last year on Camino de Levante I came to Albacete and waking up in pension room just couldn't get myself out of that bed. Thought to myself, OK I'll start later and walk shorter stage. But no go. I put some clothes on, went downstairs to the reception desk and said I'd stay for another night. Went back to my bed and that was the sweetest sleep I have ever had on my Caminos.As someone who trained and ran half marathons for several years, I learned that the most important element in training for endurance events is scheduling rest days. If you don't have adequate rest days you will get over-use injuries. After hard exercise you body needs time to recover. I found that at age 60 I needed two full rest days a week and one day of light workout to be able to go week after week without injury. That is 4 hard workouts a week. You may be different, but you still need rest days.
That's a lovely story- what a lovely husband he must be. LThank you, I'm in great surprise at the moment as late last night my husband turned up in the village I'm staying in- he'd decided 24 hours ago that my plaintive texts were too much and he's taken 4 days emergency leave to come and support me! He took 12 hours and 9 different transports to get here including a train to Fromista and then walking to the next village- I was shocked but relieved when he walked into dinner! The Hotel owner was in on the BIG secret and all 6 pilgrims at our evening meal witnessed the biggest hug on the Camino ever...
I visited a podiatrist before going on my Camino earlier this year. I had orthotics made 6 months before leaving. Months of training had been a shock to the system. I have weak arches, my feet are 'flat'. I had steadily healing plantar fasciitis in one foot before I left and now have a less serious case in both feet because the full Camino Frances is such an extreme undertaking. I pity anyone who develops full-blown PF while on the Camino, it's agonising. Luckily for me I could stop walking for a month and heal, I was only training. I resumed training with the orthotics. I am now looking into (and practising) Iyengar yoga which includes a few very strenuous foot exercises which are strengthening my arches. The podiatrist and a physiotherapist had given me exercises which are not nearly as detailed or as strength-building as my yoga exercises. Live and learn.
My goal is to be able to walk 400kms without pain and maybe without orthotics. Orthotics compensate for weakness, they don't solve the problem. My orthotics are very hard, they have to be - so foot strike became a problem. The answer as per my previous post above, is to not walk such ridiculously long total distances, to walk shorter days, to take more rest days. Losing some weight also helps. Trying to solve this is a fascinating experience.
Buen Camino, - Mike
Bonita,So I've arrived in Villalcezar de Sirga and as it's the village where miracles happen in the church I'm going to Mass later! Today I walked for two hours before it started hurting.... just now after a two hour lunch I went to the Hostel (private room) and fur the first time on the trip fell over landing on both knees and getting a fat lip.... in that moment I decided.... I'm going home. Tomorrow I'll walk to Carrion de los Condes and will share a a taxi with a woman I met today and go to Ledigos (hubby will walk the 30 km. He is scheduled to leave the Camino from Sahagun to go home. My plan is now to Bus the three stages to Leon whilst my young friend who I'm walking with walks in between.
I've arrived in Segahun, went to the Medical centre and took my feet and insect bite for a consultation- after some not insignificant eye brow raising I now have HUGE 500mg anti- biotics some cream plus strong painkillers for the infected bite and the instruction to STOP WALKING for 4/5 days.Bonita,
After you get your feet up for a while and have a cuppa or three, you'll probably start itching to get back out there.
I was very lucky with the weather. It rained a lot before during and after The Meseta, but when I got down into Galicia it was a perfect string of sunny spring days all the way to SDC.
Et a
Keep in touch. Let us know how you're going. Galicia awaits...
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Yep I'm catching the train to Leon in the morning and spending 3 nights in the Parador- fluffy white towels and bathroom PRODUCTS here I come! I'll fly home Friday I think. I've been walking since Sep 3rd and stopped walking today Oct 3rd so a whole month and just over half done, not what I expected but still an achievement.Sounds like a good reason to hang out in the square & soak it in
Yep it is simply wonderfull to have a private bathroom. Enjoy!Yep I'm catching the train to Leon in the morning and spending 3 nights in the Parador- fluffy white towels and bathroom PRODUCTS here I come! I'll fly home Friday I think. I've been walking since Sep 3rd and stopped walking today Oct 3rd so a whole month and just over half done, not what I expected but still an achievement.
Simply no luck for you this year... Sorry to hear that and hope you'll return someday.Yep I'm catching the train to Leon in the morning and spending 3 nights in the Parador- fluffy white towels and bathroom PRODUCTS here I come! I'll fly home Friday I think. I've been walking since Sep 3rd and stopped walking today Oct 3rd so a whole month and just over half done, not what I expected but still an achievement.
I did see a medic well two in fact at the wonderful medical centre in Sehugun who said 'go home' which I have done. I've been home for a week now and I'm still in a lot of pain so I'm glad I made the decision to stop. What's interesting to me is that I didn't feel frustrated or that my Camino was 'cut short' in fact it felt perfect and I ended on a high with some fun filled days in Leon then Madrid. I'd spent 5 weeks walking and I was happy to go home. My OH was very pleased to see me when I got back- our walking adventures together continue although closer to home on the Pilgrim's Way which is near our house ....What a wonderful surprise.
Regarding your feet you should see medic, so many people ignore this and before they know it their camino is over.
I hope all works out well for you.
Buen Camino
I guess it's not all about completing the whole journey in one go, so many people do it in stages. I was very fortunate in being able to do the whole camino in one go, I had my ups and downs but luckily they all worked out well.
What's the pilgrims way like? My wife and I have been talking about doing Winchester to Canterbury possibly next year.
Hi @Waka almost every year there's a pilgrimage to Canterbury and I might be doing it in August 2017 wt the Redbridge RC community group... costs about 250£ for the fotnight. U get a blessing from Winchester cathedral before setting off and accommodation are in church halls etc... I think there is a van to transport packs if wished... and when in Canterbury there's a mass to mark the pilgrimage.... there are mass at every stopping points....
...I've been home for a week now and I'm still in a lot of pain so I'm glad I made the decision to stop. What's interesting to me is that I didn't feel frustrated or that my Camino was 'cut short' in fact it felt perfect and I ended on a high with some fun filled days in Leon then Madrid. ....
Thank you for this very useful advice I've also been measured up for new boots and find that I've got feet that have swollen to a size and a half bigger than my old boots! Mind you they were trusted old boots and will have stretched over the years but still makes you think eh?As someone who has gone through rehab for Achilles tendon surgery and knee surgery and a host of minor running related problems, may I suggest that when you talk to you doctor about your continued pain you ask for a physical therapy prescription. PT's, especially if Sports PT's are really great. Mine explained to me about how critical "balanced muscles" are to correct gate. Mine conducted lifting exercises to find the strength of specific muscles. Then we established goals as to what they should be able to lift in relationship to their companion muscles. So my weakened muscles due to surgery, needed to be strengthened, but the question was by how much and what other muscles that had compensated needed to have their companion muscles strengthened.
It was stuff I had no idea was important. However, after lots of time at a gym in the weight machine and free weight are, I did get my muscles to finally be relatively well balanced. I was also amazed at how important core muscle strength was.
My suggestion is for you to see a PT hit the gym as part of your rehap from your injury and use this as a way to get in shape for the next leg of your Camino or whatever closer to home pilgrimage you choose.
I am glad that you had a good Camino experience.
Hi @Waka the website is thepilgrims.org.uk and is run by the Dorking group, not Redbridge and there is a person to contact. I have never walked with the group before, but have been looking at their website for a while. There is a reunion weekend next saturday in Banstead, from Friday evening to Sunday, with a 12 mile walk on saturday.
If you are unable to get the contact person details (which is on the website), pls pm me....I will give you her contact details. I wonder if @BonitaHolland knows the group as this could be her part of the world.
Cheers
Thanks @AcrossTheWater3008, done a little more digging and have found that a group from Winchester do it on a yearly basis, it cost around £200 all found, sleeping in church halls etc, I'm waiting for their 2017 programme to be published. I'll have to see what their timings are for next year, but I'm definitely interested.
Hi so glad u found the website. The organiser emailed me that the cost will be about 250£... (but its not finalised yet!) Might see you at the pilgrimage!
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So glad your Camino ended on a good note, BonitaHolland, in spite of all the pain you endured. Your photo of the Leon Cathedral windows is beautiful, and the parador in Leon sounds like a wonderful place for a respite. I'm delighted to hear Leon felt like a Santiago for you and that you are home, recovering, and feeling more positive about your Camino journey. I hope your foot pain is eased fully soon. SueLeon Cathedral marks the end of my Camino .... it's feeling like a Santiago to me... will I come back? I'm not sure... perhaps I got what I needed during this last 4 weeks....so thank you all for all the likes and support and humour and warmth and for sharing this.
Thank you for your kind words I had an X-ray yesterday as the GP is concerned I may have broken a small bone or even have a bone chip floating about which would explain why the pain hasn't subsided 3 weeks after getting home - and he confirmed I also have Plantar Facilitis. Next step is possible foot surgery then rehab. I'm very happy that I made the right decision to come home- and yet my Camino has continued here in many ways. I loved my 5 weeks on the road walking and carrying my pack but I also love my home my comforts and my partner who as you all know travelled out to support me taking 13 hours to travel from London and turning up just past Fromista to surprise me, I've never been so relieved to see him.So glad your Camino ended on a good note, BonitaHolland, in spite of all the pain you endured. Your photo of the Leon Cathedral windows is beautiful, and the parador in Leon sounds like a wonderful place for a respite. I'm delighted to hear Leon felt like a Santiago for you and that you are home, recovering, and feeling more positive about your Camino journey. I hope your foot pain is eased fully soon. Sue
Oh, no... So sorry your foot problems so severe. I hope your doctor comes up with solution and you heal soon. You clearly did make the right decision. I'm glad you still feel good about your Camino and how it continues, including the joys of being home with your loving partner. Take care.Thank you for your kind words I had an X-ray yesterday as the GP is concerned I may have broken a small bone or even have a bone chip floating about which would explain why the pain hasn't subsided 3 weeks after getting home - and he confirmed I also have Plantar Facilitis. Next step is possible foot surgery then rehab. I'm very happy that I made the right decision to come home- and yet my Camino has continued here in many ways. I loved my 5 weeks on the road walking and carrying my pack but I also love my home my comforts and my partner who as you all know travelled out to support me taking 13 hours to travel from London and turning up just past Fromista to surprise me, I've never been so relieved to see him.
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