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Don't know if this helps but frameless can be comfortable by just putting in a stiffener e.g. mine has a foam mat. You can also use sit mats which will do two jobs Buen camino.I don't know if my dream pack even exists but if anyone knows, it's you guys. So... I'm looking for a really small pack, probably 20 litres or so, just enough to carry a change of clothes or two, my phone, toiletries, and a poncho. Hubby and I will be staying in private accommodation and if we need anything en route, we'll buy it. It has to be a comfortable carry so frameless packs are out. And I'd really like a decent hip belt.
Is there such a thing?
That looks pretty great, too! lolol maybe it's just me that wants a hikelite and I don't have a good reason to get one : )You might want to look at the Gregory Juno 24. It's lightweight and has a ventilated back panel.
I have the Juno 36 and it's super comfortable for me. I wore it fully loaded the other day on a 15 mile training hike, and almost forgot I had it on!
Juno 24
The perfect size for day hikes and a ventilated suspension to keep you cool.www.gregorypacks.com
I really like the look of the Juno 24 but it seems to be out of stock everywhere (I'm in the UK). Will try some of the smaller stockists.You might want to look at the Gregory Juno 24. It's lightweight and has a ventilated back panel.
I have the Juno 36 and it's super comfortable for me. I wore it fully loaded the other day on a 15 mile training hike, and almost forgot I had it on!
Juno 24
The perfect size for day hikes and a ventilated suspension to keep you cool.www.gregorypacks.com
Hi, personal preferences, but I’m not sure you need a hip belt with a 20 litre pack, there a limit to how much you can get into it and therefore how heavy it will be.I don't know if my dream pack even exists but if anyone knows, it's you guys. So... I'm looking for a really small pack, probably 20 litres or so, just enough to carry a change of clothes or two, my phone, toiletries, and a poncho. Hubby and I will be staying in private accommodation and if we need anything en route, we'll buy it. It has to be a comfortable carry so frameless packs are out. And I'd really like a decent hip belt.
Is there such a thing?
I’m not sure you need a hip belt with a 20 litre pack
It is very important that the day pack be properly fitted and comfortable. I would still advise getting one with a hip belt of some sort, and certainly a chest strap. The weight may still be 3 or 4 kg when you include those items plus 1 kg of water, snacks, phone battery pack, sunscreen, etc.change of clothes or two, my phone, toiletries, and a poncho
I took a 20lt pack first time and it was too small really. The Osprey Hikelite looks similar to my next pack (a discontinued Berghaus 25+5) at 26lt and you don't have to fill it. Really impressed by its weight too - as given on the site.I don't know if my dream pack even exists but if anyone knows, it's you guys. So... I'm looking for a really small pack, probably 20 litres or so, just enough to carry a change of clothes or two, my phone, toiletries, and a poncho. Hubby and I will be staying in private accommodation and if we need anything en route, we'll buy it. It has to be a comfortable carry so frameless packs are out. And I'd really like a decent hip belt.
Is there such a thing?
Capacity and weight looks good but a webbing hipbelt is a no go for me even if only carrying minimal gear. That is a problem I find with most small capacity backpacks or daypacks.I took a 20lt pack first time and it was too small really. The Osprey Hikelite looks similar to my next pack (a discontinued Berghaus 25+5) at 26lt and you don't have to fill it. Really impressed by its weight too - as given on the site.
My small girlfriend just went through this! The ones with the frames hurt her shoulder bones big time. The packs were heavy without anything in them! She kept taking them back to get a different one. Finally REI talked her into a 20 liter without frame! She loves it and leaves in two weeks!I don't know if my dream pack even exists but if anyone knows, it's you guys. So... I'm looking for a really small pack, probably 20 litres or so, just enough to carry a change of clothes or two, my phone, toiletries, and a poncho. Hubby and I will be staying in private accommodation and if we need anything en route, we'll buy it. It has to be a comfortable carry so frameless packs are out. And I'd really like a decent hip belt.
Is there such a thing?
I am the opposite as I like the hip belt because, correctly adjusted, it keeps the pack weight on my hips and not my shoulders.Capacity and weight looks good but a webbing hipbelt is a no go for me even if only carrying minimal gear. That is a problem I find with most small capacity backpacks or daypacks.
Rohan have it in stock.I really like the look of the Juno 24 but it seems to be out of stock everywhere (I'm in the UK). Will try some of the smaller stockists.
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