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Would you really tell a short slim woman of 45 kilos to only bring 4.5 kilos with her on the Camino? That wouldn't get her much further than her backpack, a sleeping bag and a pair of crocs!
The origin .... I have no idea. Vets, Mod's, thru-hikers will likely know the answer which I will assume is for a backpacker's personal comfort.
My understanding of the 'rule' is that it CAN be to be used as a guide for those who wish to take it onboard.
Actually I first heard of it when planning a thru-hike PCT & began to read (then gota bita LOT 'freaked') so decided CF might be a better 'newbie' option .... PCT & AT I hope to do one day.
Anyhoo I am one of those 50kg, 5,1" (1.54m) women. Trial & error & more error & I have achieved a base weight - everything excluding water - of 4.4Kg's.
Sheesh & I thought I was doing well. Remembering that hobbits (kiwi girl) that are smallish all have small clothing, shoes, sleeping bags that weigh less than medium & large sizes, esp men's clothing. Ahh but you are a pro & I'm a newbie eager to learn all the tricksMy Camino backpack weight sits at around 4.3 kilos. I have shirts, socks, walking shorts, sleeping quilt, etc. It also includes a 2 liter water reservoir that is usually only filled with 1 liter at a time.
Possibly not but I don't really need to find out either.That's interesting. Would carrying 6 or 7kg be uncomfortable for you?
Sounds like you need to take a closer look at what you are bringing.I'm impressed that both of you managed to get your load down so low. I'm using quite a heavy backpack and sleeping bag. Together that's already over 3kg. Add in a gore-tex jacket, some evening shoes, clothes, water bladder, toiletries... the toiletries are almost a kilo! ... shampoo, conditioner, soap, contact lens solution, foot cream, toothpaste...
My lightest practical load doesn't come in much under 7kg. To get it lower I'd have to leave things out or start spending lots of money on pro ultralight equiment, I guess.
When one says base weight is that with all the necessities. *must haves* including actual pack weight without items? With items? Is that summer or winter? I’m confused and I don’t mind saying that.
Thank you.. this is the way I understood it and this makes sense now but I’m not sure everyone weighs items the same way. Also in terms of long distance walks such as Camino I would think most people dont have an ultra light pack and some winter items would weigh more.. thanks for the clarification.1. Base weight is the pack and non consumable contents. All equipment and clothing needed for the conditions expected during a backpacking trip. It does not include food, water, and fuel. Those are not included in the base weight because they are variable. Since I do not backpack during winter, and only during the three non-winter seasons, that load is the same due to the fact that my backpacking trips occur between 7 and 12,000 feet (2140 to 3660 meters). My clothing and gear cover the potential weather extremes.
2. Total weight includes the base weight plus the weight of food and fuel and water carried between resupply points. For example, my base weight on my Pacific Crest Trail and Colorado Trail thru-hikes was about 14 pounds. Tent, sleeping quilt, pad, clothing, cooking gear, empty water bladder, etc. With a 7 day food and fuel supply, the total weight increased my load to about 22 - 23 pounds. Of course, each day that weight decreased as the consumables were.. well.. consumed.
3. Total skin out weight includes the total backpack weight plus the clothing one is wearing.
I'm impressed that both of you managed to get your load down so low. I'm using quite a heavy backpack and sleeping bag. Together that's already over 3kg. Add in a gore-tex jacket, some evening shoes, clothes, water bladder, toiletries... the toiletries are almost a kilo! ... shampoo, conditioner, soap, contact lens solution, foot cream, toothpaste...
My lightest practical load doesn't come in much under 7kg. To get it lower I'd have to leave things out or start spending lots of money on pro ultralight equiment, I guess.
Thank you.. this is the way I understood it and this makes sense now but I’m not sure everyone weighs items the same way. Also in terms of long distance walks such as Camino I would think some winter weight items would weigh more.. thanks for the clarification
In response to you original question, I believe the 10% rule is an old wives' tale. As I am not an old wife, just old and overweight, my packed weight is 5 kg, max.
One solution is to start with everything in the pack now. Once on the Camino, reality will help prioritizing each item being carried. The lowest on the list will be purged, donated, left by the side of the path, sent home. There are many choices.
Not saying this to be harsh. I have been there, damaged myself carrying too much pack and too much me, a total of 122 kg, 10 kg of pack, the rest, me. Far too much, but I felt I could handle it. Wrong. Two years later, I am a bit lighter, so is my pack and I start back at the beginning, SJPdP, in just 6 weeks from now. I have worked hard to prepare, heal, condition and in 6 months last year, I waalked the equivalent of a full CF from SJPdP to Santiago, then on to Muxia and finally to Fisterre.
What do old wives know anyway?
Completely agree on the layering. I hike a lot even with bad knees. From Arizona to Colorado and Japan to Norway but usually long day hikes. Aside from 21 years in military carrying a 200 pound patient over your shoulder thru the woods or on a litter or hauling 50 pounds of gear (knees were good then lol ) I have never hiked a really long sustained distance with a pack and bad knees. I am under 8kg leaving in 2 days but that’s with some medical necessities but I’m sure I can find something that doesnt belong lol Knees will hurt either way but it also never hurts to look again and trim the fat in the pack . The fat on the body comes off during the camino I hope. I cannot be defined by my injuries..now let’s do this ! (My new motto) Great explanation and advise as always @MichelleElynHogan and congrats on your progress.Most of the additional weight for colder weather is not so much in the pack, but what is worn while walking. My Camino load, as light as it is, covers a temperature range, comfortably, from about 30f (-1c) to hot desert conditions. Not that the Camino gets as hot as a high desert; it's just the way my layering system is able to adapt.
Completely agree on the layering. I hike a lot even with bad knees. From Arizona to Colorado and Japan to Norway but usually long day hikes. Aside from 21 years in military carrying a 200 pound patient over your shoulder thru the woods or on a litter or hauling 50 pounds of gear (knees were good then lol ) I have never hiked a really long sustained distance with a pack and bad knees. I am under 8kg leaving in 2 days but that’s with some medical necessities but I’m sure I can find something that doesnt belong lol Knees will hurt either way but it also never hurts to look again and trim the fat in the pack . The fat on the body comes off during the camino I hope. I cannot be defined by my injuries..now let’s do this ! (My new motto) Great explanation and advise as always @MichelleElynHogan and congrats on your progress.
You do not need to buy expensive ultralight equipment to walk the Camino. You can walk it quite handily with budget, low tech equipment. Remember, it is neither hiking nor camping.I'm impressed that both of you managed to get your load down so low. I'm using quite a heavy backpack and sleeping bag. Together that's already over 3kg. Add in a gore-tex jacket, some evening shoes, clothes, water bladder, toiletries... the toiletries are almost a kilo! ... shampoo, conditioner, soap, contact lens solution, foot cream, toothpaste...
My lightest practical load doesn't come in much under 7kg. To get it lower I'd have to leave things out or start spending lots of money on pro ultralight equiment, I guess.
I'm using quite a heavy backpack and sleeping bag. Together that's already over 3kg. Add in a gore-tex jacket, some evening shoes, clothes, water bladder, toiletries... the toiletries are almost a kilo! ... shampoo, conditioner, soap, contact lens solution, foot cream, toothpaste...
My lightest practical load doesn't come in much under 7kg. To get it lower I'd have to leave things out or start spending lots of money on pro ultralight equiment, I guess.
Hahah yes I gave the same advise about donation earlier in another thread lol . Or local church always have donation box. yes bending bending yes very flexible..You will be fine. You will also have ample opportunity to fine-tune your load on-the-fly as you discover that you can do without something, or can do with less. In either case, you can donate to an albergue 'donation' box, or ship things back home thru the post offices along the way. So, don't sweat it, be flexible, and have a great time
You do not need to buy expensive ultralight equipment to walk the Camino. You can walk it quite handily with budget, low tech equipment. Remember, it is neither hiking nor camping.
It's actually not such a bad piece of guidance if you apply it with some common sense. Does it really matter where it came from?So where did this strange rule come from and why does everyone keep repeating it?!
3. Total Skin Out Weight includes the total backpack weight, plus the clothing one is wearing.
Nothing, in this case.What do old wives know anyway?
Also it's not so much a rule about how much your pack should weigh, but rather what it should not weigh more than.
A pack that did weigh 10% of my own weight would be massively heavy !!
I cannot be defined by my injuries..now let’s do this !
1. Base Weight is the pack and non consumable contents. All equipment and clothing needed for the conditions expected during a backpacking trip. It does not include food, water, and fuel. Those are not included in the base weight because they are variable. Since I do not backpack during winter, and only during the three non-winter seasons, that load is the same due to the fact that my backpacking trips occur between 7 and 12,000 feet (2140 to 3660 meters). My clothing and gear cover the potential weather extremes.
2. Total Pack Weight includes the base weight plus the weight of food and fuel and water carried between resupply points. For example, my base weight on my Pacific Crest Trail and Colorado Trail thru-hikes was about 14 pounds. Tent, sleeping quilt, pad, clothing, cooking gear, empty water bladder, etc. With a 7 day food and fuel supply, the total weight increased my load to about 22 - 23 pounds. Of course, each day that weight decreased as the consumables were.. well.. consumed.
3. Total Skin Out Weight includes the total backpack weight, plus the clothing one is wearing.
For Camino, base weight is going to be the most important planning factor. The amount of food carried is pretty minimal compared to backpacking in the wild, and water is constantly consumed and not a big, static load. And unless one is carrying cooking gear, fuel for stoves, as a consumable, is non existent.
I always thought it's a simplified rule based on experience concerning mountain trips of several days' duration. I always understood it to refer to a trained walker of normal weight, ie someone who is not overweight or obese and, if you want to nitpick, allowing for differences based on muscularity (a highly trained athlete has a higher weight without being overweight in the usual sense).So where did this strange rule come from and why does everyone keep repeating it?!
normal weight, ie someone who is not overweight or obese
Thanks @VNwalkingNothing, in this case.
I do wonder, reading your post, if in fact those of us who are not sylphs should actually carry less than those who are lighter? (Apologies to those of you with a hand in the freezer heading for the ice cream to get your weight up and allow you to carry more...)
@davebugg , do you know if anyone has looked to see if there is an optimum max TSOW weight plus body weight (above which there is a much higher risk of injury)?
Edit~ @JabbaPapa and I posted at the same time - his point is apropos to this:
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So where did this strange rule come from and why does everyone keep repeating it?!
The lighter, the better....I'm 60kg and carried 9-10kg last time and didn't my feet know about it! Down to 5-6kg this time and I'm sure my feet will be much happier.Sounds like you need to take a closer look at what you are bringing.
And 10% isn't a "rule", but a rough guideline. I'm a fairly tall woman and weigh about 62 kg, but my pack base weight without water is about 7 kg. I could probably get it down lower, but I'm comfortable with that weight.
Absolutely.The average person being away from home ,throwing caution to the wind, being adventurous although on the surface exciting, underneath maybe a feeling of fear of the unknown which drives more things into the pack.
The article says in part:You may find this article interesting...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141021111233.htm
I had a similar experience, except that I only bought small tubes of lotion, and no books or food.. I truly believe in pre-Camino training and am shocked at how many folks head out on the Camino with little or none. I trained like crazy before my one and only, got my pack down to 10% and when I finally hit the road I found that I could carry way more than 10%. And I did. Started throwing in books, jars of body lotion, large bags of food
@davebugg , do you know if anyone has looked to see if there is an optimum max TSOW weight plus body weight (above which there is a much higher risk of injury)?
Good work, Librarian! I think this rule makes a lot more sense in that it relates to your lean body mass, not just how much you weigh.And for obsessives particularly this post (yes, of mine) that will lead you to hours of joyful contradiction:
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...2nd-pair-of-boots-the-boot.29171/#post-244943
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Several times I've been given to wonder where this rule that you should have your backpack weighing 10% of your bodyweight actually came from. What's more, why do so many people keep repeating it without even thinking about it? It's become a bit like one of those urban myths that people look up on snopes.com!
Basically my gripe is that it only applies if you're a reasonably tall male of about 75-80 kilos. Then nice - you get to carry a backpack of optimum weight 7.5-8 kilos. But stray too far from this figure and the results make no sense. Would you really tell a short slim woman of 45 kilos to only bring 4.5 kilos with her on the Camino? That wouldn't get her much further than her backpack, a sleeping bag and a pair of crocs! Likewise, I've met plenty of taller strong guys happily carrying 10 or 11 kilos with them who weigh nothing close to 100-110 kg. In fact, if they did, they'd be struggling a lot more!
So where did this strange rule come from and why does everyone keep repeating it?!
Yes, on second look I was probably over-estimating. But I still have those heavy things which I can't avoid. I've checked my current packing list I have small bottle of sun-block, contact lens solution, tube of foot cream/lubricant, lush shampoo bar, antiseptic spray. It all comes to about 600g not 1kg.....shampoo...conditioner....soap...foot cream......toothpaste....a kilo in toiletries sounds a lot. It's all bit of game really to seem how little you actually need. I would be finding half a cake of soap that you can wash you and your hair and your clothes with, take some toothpaste tablets or squeeze out most of a tube...travel size spray deodorant if you must. My pack sits at 5.5 and hers at 4.5kgs.
Go to a dentist. Dentists have ways to lower the amount of toothpaste that you will need. And the tooth extraction will save some additional weight beyond the toothpaste as well.I'll look into toothpaste tablets
Go to a dentist. Dentists have ways to lower the amount of toothpaste that you will need. And the tooth extraction will save some additional weight beyond the toothpaste as well.
Here is the comment I've been waiting for! I keep my 3 lb. (empty) pack as light as I can, but often just had it transferred by Jacotrans, or Os Correos. Expect to use TuiTrans in Portugal in June.Does it matter to walkers who use Jacotrans?
Yes, on second look I was probably over-estimating. But I still have those heavy things which I can't avoid. I've checked my current packing list I have small bottle of sun-block, contact lens solution, tube of foot cream/lubricant, lush shampoo bar, antiseptic spray. It all comes to about 600g not 1kg.
I'll look into toothpaste tablets
Would any of the 4.5kg crowd mind treating us to a breakdown of the weights of their items?
It is still somehow incomprehensible to me that anyone could get their backpack down so low. Part of me wonders if there must be some hidden compromise here that no-one is mentioning, because I've got everything in a spreadsheet and although I can see I could cut off a couple of hundred grammes here and there, dropping 2 or 3kg is just out of the question without losing some large and useful items. I'm clearly not doing it right! Do you all borrow other peoples chargers and toothpaste or something? ;-)
Tell me more about these soap berries for laundry.My epipens, asthma inhalers and protective cases come in at 2 pounds, just shy of 1 kilo. For laundry I carry soap berries; they are almost weightless. I use a combined body-wash/shampoo, and a very light travel brush, and one tube of toothpaste in the travel size made by HEMA -- it's a little bigger than we get in N. America. Compeeds, non-chafing stick, and sunscreen round it out, but are extra to my asthma and anaphylaxis kit. I had one hair elastic for the whole trip -- either on my wrist or in my hair.
Tell me more about these soap berries for laundry.
They sound awesome! I did read up on them a bit. Do you soak them in hot water at all before hand washing your clothes? I think that they would probably work well with my preferred method of clothes washing. I have a super lightweight dry bag (1.2 ounces) that I put my clothes in as I remove them in the shower. I add a bit of soap and warm shower water then let them soak while I shower. After my shower I agitate the bag a bit, then rinse in the laundry sink.They are GENIUS! I use them at home for almost every wash (unless it's a serious stain!). If you look on Amazon, for "soap berries" you can find them. They are not cheap on the outlay, but a $50 box in Canadian currency gets me 360 washes. I took 10 berries with me for 6 weeks of laundry (and shared loads with people regularly). 10 berries per wash, in a little baggie. They have a natural saponification process released when they get wet. Remove the baggie from the wash and secure to your backpack to dry. Dry, they honestly weigh almost nothing. They have no obnoxious perfume either, so get for folks like me with skin allergies.
Just google "Soap Berries"
Here's mine. If you see a '0' value, it means the item is not taken. I apologize about the size, I don't know how to adjust an insert's size.
Here's mine. If you see a '0' value, it means the item is not taken. I apologize about the size, I don't know how to adjust an insert's size.
This is very interesting. I've been comparing my list to yours. There seem to be quite a few things on my list that don't appear on yours. Can I ask you - will you really not take any of these: phone, charger, camera, change of underwear (!), sunglasses, dry bags?
I see how your footwear and rainwear choices are making a big difference. Instead of a poncho I've got a raincoat, rain kilt and backpack cover. Your poncho would do all three at once.
And I have to ask... what kind of towel only weighs one ounce?
The recommendation is in John Brierley's book. I think it is an important one for walking 800 km in 33 days. Last year, I started out with about 12 lbs. I weigh around 117, and I am in excellent shape (Run a minimum of 20 miles a week and do 1/2 marathons. After the first day, I lightened the loiad and left about 3 lbs behind. I think the 10% figure is a good guide.Several times I've been given to wonder where this rule that you should have your backpack weighing 10% of your bodyweight actually came from. What's more, why do so many people keep repeating it without even thinking about it? It's become a bit like one of those urban myths that people look up on snopes.com!
Basically my gripe is that it only applies if you're a reasonably tall male of about 75-80 kilos. Then nice - you get to carry a backpack of optimum weight 7.5-8 kilos. But stray too far from this figure and the results make no sense. Would you really tell a short slim woman of 45 kilos to only bring 4.5 kilos with her on the Camino? That wouldn't get her much further than her backpack, a sleeping bag and a pair of crocs! Likewise, I've met plenty of taller strong guys happily carrying 10 or 11 kilos with them who weigh nothing close to 100-110 kg. In fact, if they did, they'd be struggling a lot more!
So where did this strange rule come from and why does everyone keep repeating it?!
Our pack weights are always limited to 7kg maximum each as we always avoid putting luggage in the hold when we travel anywhere. Just boarded a plane this night to London (via Abu Dabi) and pack 1 was 6.9, pack 2 was 7.1 and pack 3 was 6. Add to that the water and snacks/lunch stuff shared between everyone and the jackets/jumpers attached when/if it warms up in April & May. Was OK last time, and I'm not stressing out about it this time either. Arriving Spain on the 12th and hopefully walking out of Irun 13th, 14th. Can't wait to get started!
I don't have the weight of each item, but here is a quick list of my items (total = 5.3kg) for an April Camino
(Does not include what I wear: Tshirt, knee-zip pants, hat, bra, underwear, socks, sneakers, sunglasses, neck buff, hairband and ziplock with money/documents)
Clothes
2 quick dry tshirts
2 microfiber underwear
2 socks
lycra leggings
shorts
flip-flops
puffy jacket
plastic poncho
Toiletries
airplane toothbrush
mini toothpaste
45ml lenses fluid
lenses case
mini hairbrush
90ml moistoriser with sunblocker
hotel-size shampoo (also used as soap and to wash clothes)
medicaments/band aids
microfiber towel
Others
Phone / phone charger
Small Tablet (my guilty pleasure item. Same brand as phone, uses same charger)
notebook and pen
minitorch
day bag
silk liner
water bottle
safety pins
All inside my faithful backpack which I got for free with my laptop and is the most comfortable I've ever carried (besides being quite light)
- If any of those thing ended, I would just buy a new one, refill my containers and share with other pilgrims. Or get a new one from the ammenities set in case we stopped in a hotel/inn instead of albergue.
- If it got colder, I'd just wear everything layered.
- Phone took the (almost none) pictures I wanted. I rarely take pictures of anything. I wrote a lot, though.
I tried doing this in October but still had to pay to have my backpack checked in because I was carrying hiking poles :/
Just a silk liner in April is quite brave.
I understand that if you are flying out of Santiago all of the airlines there will check your poles for free.So far, I have been able to take my pack on board as a carry-on with my poles from my airport. But i know when returning from Spain, they need to be mailed home. My pack size and weight are well within the restrictions for carry-ons domestically and internationally, so it's always just a question about the poles.
That's nice of them. I flew in from Stansted and the people there were not as understanding.I understand that if you are flying out of Santiago all of the airlines there will check your poles for free.
I don't know why you keep calling it a rule. I never heard that it is a rule! As I see it, it is a piece of advice and take it or leave it. Of course you should adjust your backpack the way it suites you.Several times I've been given to wonder where this rule that you should have your backpack weighing 10% of your bodyweight actually came from. What's more, why do so many people keep repeating it without even thinking about it? It's become a bit like one of those urban myths that people look up on snopes.com!
Basically my gripe is that it only applies if you're a reasonably tall male of about 75-80 kilos. Then nice - you get to carry a backpack of optimum weight 7.5-8 kilos. But stray too far from this figure and the results make no sense. Would you really tell a short slim woman of 45 kilos to only bring 4.5 kilos with her on the Camino? That wouldn't get her much further than her backpack, a sleeping bag and a pair of crocs! Likewise, I've met plenty of taller strong guys happily carrying 10 or 11 kilos with them who weigh nothing close to 100-110 kg. In fact, if they did, they'd be struggling a lot more!
So where did this strange rule come from and why does everyone keep repeating it?!
I walked last year with a backpack 5kilos - And I had all that I needed on that tripSeveral times I've been given to wonder where this rule that you should have your backpack weighing 10% of your bodyweight actually came from. What's more, why do so many people keep repeating it without even thinking about it? It's become a bit like one of those urban myths that people look up on snopes.com!
Basically my gripe is that it only applies if you're a reasonably tall male of about 75-80 kilos. Then nice - you get to carry a backpack of optimum weight 7.5-8 kilos. But stray too far from this figure and the results make no sense. Would you really tell a short slim woman of 45 kilos to only bring 4.5 kilos with her on the Camino? That wouldn't get her much further than her backpack, a sleeping bag and a pair of crocs! Likewise, I've met plenty of taller strong guys happily carrying 10 or 11 kilos with them who weigh nothing close to 100-110 kg. In fact, if they did, they'd be struggling a lot more!
So where did this strange rule come from and why does everyone keep repeating it?!
You could always go in the other direction ,put on more weight then supposedly you can carry more .as well as the weight.I'm impressed that both of you managed to get your load down so low. I'm using quite a heavy backpack and sleeping bag. Together that's already over 3kg. Add in a gore-tex jacket, some evening shoes, clothes, water bladder, toiletries... the toiletries are almost a kilo! ... shampoo, conditioner, soap, contact lens solution, foot cream, toothpaste...
My lightest practical load doesn't come in much under 7kg. To get it lower I'd have to leave things out or start spending lots of money on pro ultralight equiment, I guess.
I don't know where it started, but it's a good starting point. Not supposed to be taken literally, it's more a reminder to not carry more than you need to because you will just make your hike more difficult. I think many people confuse "need" and "want." From what I read on the forums, a lot more people carry far too much with them than don't bring enough--evidenced by how many people say they mail stuff home when they get a few kilometers/miles down the road. For many people, walking the Camino routes is a first experience doing a long hike in a foreign country and they are somewhat anxious about will they have enough, will they be adequately prepared for whatever comes up. Over time, they become more secure and realize that they don't need as much, or can buy things along the way, or that "the Camino provides."Several times I've been given to wonder where this rule that you should have your backpack weighing 10% of your bodyweight actually came from. What's more, why do so many people keep repeating it without even thinking about it? It's become a bit like one of those urban myths that people look up on snopes.com!
Basically my gripe is that it only applies if you're a reasonably tall male of about 75-80 kilos. Then nice - you get to carry a backpack of optimum weight 7.5-8 kilos. But stray too far from this figure and the results make no sense. Would you really tell a short slim woman of 45 kilos to only bring 4.5 kilos with her on the Camino? That wouldn't get her much further than her backpack, a sleeping bag and a pair of crocs! Likewise, I've met plenty of taller strong guys happily carrying 10 or 11 kilos with them who weigh nothing close to 100-110 kg. In fact, if they did, they'd be struggling a lot more!
So where did this strange rule come from and why does everyone keep repeating it?!
I will ask my niece who just walked PCT, South to North, last Spring.Actually I first heard of it when planning a thru-hike PCT & began to read (then gota bita LOT 'freaked') so decided CF might be a better 'newbie' option .... PCT & AT I hope to do one day.
“Sort of- except that some things weigh the same for all regardless of a persons size”
Passport, phone, charger and buttons on you trousers: agree
Other buttons: I reckon a 2 meter persons shirt has a few more than a 1.60 persons shirt. Zippers are shorter
sleeping bag, liner, towel: these come in sizes. Surely not everyone needs a 2 meter sleeping bag. If you go for the cheaper “one size fits all”: the sewing machine will do the job to make it the size you need.
glasses/hat are on your nose/head
first aid, notebook surely won’t fit in minimal lugage.
Water bottle/ sunscreen: when you’re smaller you need less so a smaller bottle will do. All liquids can be repacked to sizes of what you need
Sort of- except that some things weigh the same for all regardless of a persons size. Passport, phone, soap, charger, sleeping bag, liner, towel, toothpaste, medication, notebook, glasses, suncreen, water bottle, hat, sticking plaster ,first aid etc. These things weigh the same for us all in most cases.
Medications are based on actual ailments, allergies and conditions, not on body size
I think that may be the case for a child or a very tiny adult, and depends on what your 'normal ' average range is.
I think we must be within a very average range
Most items are purchased for use and features, not on size
Sleeping bags based on body heat requirement
I have spent a small fortune getting the lightest possible Camino items, on the whole based on technology not on size.
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